Well, sort of. And probably the closest we'll ever get.
Well, sort of. And probably the closest we'll ever get.
41mm only.
I'd bet that at W&W 2005, BB58 monochrome is the latest 'innovation'.
Some of the Tudors look rather nice, but someone once pointed out the 'slab-sided' cases, and that's all I can see now.
What is "Master Chronometer"? A new movement?
Another year wasted circling the real goals ('Twas ever thus)
The arrival of a small GMT is very welcome, but the gilt and coke colour pallet ruins it for me.
This sub is very Meh.
A BB with a choice of bracelets and the adjustable clasp is nice, but not exceptional.
Just as well I have no spare cash to spend, there's nothing there to tempt me.
Good grief. I must confess that I've never paid close attention to the Exp II, but I'm well aware of the model. I never registered that the numbers were also like that on the Rolex. I guess it does make sense on a static bezel. But it still puts me off the idea of ever owning that type of watch....... being used to 'normal' diver type bezels the orientation looks odd to my eyes. Anyway, thanks both for pointing that out.
METAS for Tudor came out with the black bay ceramic and last year’s burgundy BB41.
I really like this years BB41 and will probably get one but need to see if I can hold my nerve to pick up a pre owned one in a few months instead. Not a 3.9k watch IMO.
0.9mm thinner this year so the same thickness as the 2023 burgundy
This is a winner for me. Good size and love the monochrome, am not a fan of gilt and faux vintage. This is a solid, purposeful watch, and the METAS chronometer is a bonus. Will be all over this in time, when they are readily available.
Does look rather nice. But not 4k nice..
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I like that a lot, at nearly 4k it's not cheap but in today's market looks like a winner to me.
Just doesnt work on jubilee imo. Oyster is okay but bloody rivets again!
Poxy Jubilee spoils it!
When you look long into an abyss, the abyss looks long into you.........
I actually like it on the jubilee, & don’t feel the price is that much of an issue. Seamasters now increased, Subs now increases. What do people expect to be its rivals?
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Much prefer the GMT they've just announced.
So, all three of Tudor's new efforts use a different design of crown, the GMT and Mono use a Rolex running second hand, snowflake on the gold BB58, rivets on steel Oyster bracelet but not gold or steel jubilee...looks a right mish mash of parts and design language.
Should we start the 2025 predication thread now ?
This does look nice, but as others have said £4K is a touch high.
That is until I see it in the metal
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BB Pro with a slimmer 39mm case is giving me impure thoughts!
The BB Pro is a fairly decent looking watch. Just a shame that the lower half of the bezel numbers are upside down.
Its a nice watch but I feel it’s priced high; I purchased my firsts sub date ceramic for less in South Africa I am not sure I see it on that level yet.
I will wait for a sale or used one to appear if I pull the trigger.
Do I feel personally they're overpriced: YES
Do I feel they're overpriced in comparison to any of the other big Swiss brands with constant price increases: NO
Just the way of the world now guys.
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I look at Swiss watch watches now the same way I look at eg overpriced coffee - even if I was a millionaire I won’t pay north of £4 for a small cup of water, beans and milk and with my means I won’t pay £4k for a nice but unremarkable watch. I just feel like a bit of an idiot handing over the money when I know I’m being rinsed. Interesting that as I reach my mid-50’s and have a bit more disposable income I’ve also become more cynical of branding and less liable to fall for marketing guff. I really can’t imagine who would spend £4k on such an uninspiring looking watch.
I believe Tudor knocked it out of the park lat year with the BB54, the proportions and slimness of the case is sublime. The smaller knurled crown and aged lume makes it, for me the BEST modern thing Tudor have produced. I even love the rivet bracelet and clasp. It's like having a vintage watch without the hassle or worry.
This one for me will take some beating!
Does anyone know if the Tudor METAS movements are serviced as normal (and have serial numbers) or if the movements are replaced at service like the kenessi stuff?
This might help https://reference.grail-watch.com/20...g-and-norqain/
I am guessing they drop in a new (reconditioned) one at service.
“ Ford... you're turning into a penguin. Stop it.” HHGTTG
I do like the BB Monochrome (on the oyster) but like the BB54 more I think, the only thing I would change on the BB54 is to loose the gilt and change to silver/white like the BB58 Blue then, it would be a prefect watch I think.
I thought the FXD in black was the modern Tudor sub?
I was surprised to hear this black bay in black, no gilt, didn’t exist before.
Put this colour scheme out in the 58 and it will sell like gang busters.
Agree. Rare I would buy anything new from an AD at this price point. Was happy to wait a while to try both the Gilt and Blue BB58 variants on the secondary market but would find this hard to resist in the 58 case…….Get that it’s boring for many but just suits my tastes for some reason. Never bonded with the OG and moved it on. Still have the blue and although I like it, I don’t find myself reaching for it all that often.
For those that have owned Rolex watches of lets say the 1990`s era, how do these modern Tudor watches stack up against them quality wise.
I know modern Rolex watches will be superior but what about new Tudors VS what Rolex were making 25 / 30 odd years back.
I’d say my current BB58 definitely feels better made than my first 5513 and later 14060M. The bracelet is much better quality and the finishing and detailing seem higher. For instance I tried wearing the 5513 on a NATO for a while and the lack of finishing between the lugs seemed very poor. The bracelet was very jangly with a pressed clasp. All of the Rolex I’ve owned were very accurate for the first year to 18 months then wandered - and my BB58 is the same. Having owned every sports model of that era except the Daytona I really don’t understand the hype. I sold them all because they were all a bit boring if I’m honest. But glad I got to do that when I could walk into a shop, buy one there and then for £1500 -£2300 with no fuss or wait lists!
Paid just over £2k new for my BB58 almost 5yrs ago. What’s RRP now £3.3k ish. Personally and I seem to in the minority £4k doesn’t seem that expensive considering, yes the watch may be bland to some, but if you look at the competition Breitling, Tag Heuer, Omega, Tudor offers a lot. Yes the equivalent Omega is better spec wise but also more expensive. Oris maybe but the Acquis isn’t mainstream enough.
Now I know £4k is a lot of money, but once you start spending a couple of grand, we all up our budget to the next bracket!
I’ll also add the drop in value, well it isn’t a Rolex, Patek or AP so all watches drop!
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The thing is they were all very similar - I never owned more than a couple at a time, never really lost or made any money flipping them back then, and because they were pretty easy to get there was next to no mystique. The triplock crowns felt well engineered but how often do you hand wind or reset an automatic daily wearer? The dials were all very similar, no doubt they were well made but they weren’t noticeably much better than other watches I’d owned. I had a few issues with the service department not fixing issues, things like misaligned date wheels and wonky crowns that didn’t screw in straight, and poor timekeeping. I must have owned about 20 -25 over the years and once the novelty wore off as I say I just got a bit bored with them. Suffice to say I’ve been very surprised at all the fawning and ridiculous waiting lists over the years. And don’t get me started on the modern pricing!!!
Halcyon days! It sounds good to have experienced and how watch collecting should be. For me (and I assume most of us) the attraction of Rolex is primarily a solid reliable tool watch and yes we fall for the romanticism behind those tool’s intended users, but they’re fundamentally solid watches. Now with all the availability games and silly resale prices and focus on bling, it’s Tudor to me who’ve inherited that mantle.
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