The referee in the Brighton game is shocking.
The referee in the Brighton game is shocking.
That challenge on Lamptey was a red card all day long - do they not have VAR ?Originally Posted by ryanb741
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Ironically I thought the VAR team were the only decent officials. The on-field team were dire. How can a ref at this level miss two blatant pens when he's got perfect views of both? VAR at least stepped straight in and told him he'd dropped a bollock. I thought the tackle on Lamptey could have been a red; out of control, off the ground and studs came down onto his ankle.
Agree.
Brighton not their usually crisp self tonight.
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Yeah they've been poor. Especially Mitoma and Fati as well as the entire defence. And this is in theory their easiest game
I think Arsenal didn't rotate enough. Remember both Tomiyasu and Saliba got injured in the same Europa game against Sporting and that really derailed our season and meant we had to play Holding at Centre back. Arsenal were 2nd best last season on merit and I think are probably still 2nd best this season although it could be a toss up between them and Liverpool (I think Liverpool still have weaknesses in midfield that they need to address however up top they look potent and Salah is still top drawer and probably a better player even than Saka.
Probably ?
That’s one of your best yet .
What next ? KdB is a slight upgrade on Odegaard ?
Odegaard's only 24 and still improving. Just signed a new long term contract so I doubt you'll find a gunners fan who isn't very happy with him.
KdB obviously world class but I reckon he'll be on his way to Saudi Arabia within a couple of seasons.
He is an absolutely fantastic player. To have his quality and leadership skills at such a young age is very impressive and bodes well for the future of your team.
By probably 2nd I meant they could be 3rd, it is a toss up between Arsenal and Liverpool for who is 2nd best. I feel that was clear in what I posted.
You City fans are so insecure. Maybe because you realise your success is built on sand and there's an asterix against your achievements?
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I wasn’t highlighting the 2nd best team, just your comparison between Saka and Salah .
Why don’t you pop your insecurity theory on your favourite fans forum ? That would be fun :)
Already have. Had some 'varied' responses shall we say.
“ Salah probably better than Saka “
Thinking Saka is even in the same stratosphere as Salah is absolutely laughable.
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The bias of fans on here is laughable!!!!
Salah is a proven elite premier league player probably the most established player in the prem at the minute maybe KDB alongside, he has done it consistently year after year, Saka has been immense last season and I think hell go on to do great things and maybe in years to come but to compare them now - no chance
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You are comparing people of different ages, was Salah as good as Saka at his age? I don't think so, give Saka another 3-4 years and I think he can get to Salah's level, yes he is not there as yet but with luck and no bad injuries he can do.
Watching the Celtic game, have to say its pretty entertaining stuff this game could go either way.
Was just thinking how naïve Scottish teams can be in Europe especially when it comes to fouls (Giving away a penalty) Then they go and score an absolute screamer.
Good game so far but wonder if Celtic can keep this up for 90 minutes.
Cracking first half. Two very attacking teams. Can’t say Dortmund don’t deserve to have scored. They seem to be getting all kinds of space on Trippier’s side which is unusual.
Bias of football fans?
Who’d have thought it!?
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I know but its so obvious!!!!
As I said in an earlier quote - Im a football fan first and foremost and Im a Man utd supporter 2nd - I appreciate and respect great managers, teams, players etc, Im also a qualified level 1 and 2 coach so like to think I know my football
some of the comments are based on pure blinded loyalty or hatred towards rivals and without any understanding whatsoever of football - comparing like for like based on a season is ludicrous and disrespectful to the very TOP Players who do it year in year out
Hilarious stuff.
A Madrid player goes down clutching his face playing for time so the ref adhering to the new rules calls for the medical staff to come on the pitch. Madrid manager goes mental because thats clearly not what he wanted so ref tells the Madrid player to leave the pitch for treatment causing them to go down to 9 men.
As predicted though, Celtic look absolutely out of energy. The amount of chances they have but their players just dont have the energy to meet the ball is incredible.
Ryan’s claimed Salah is probably better than Saka.
He isn’t comparing them at the same age he’s comparing them now.
I know he hasn’t got a clue about football and says daft things but that is up there with his most ridiculous statements.
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I haven't got a clue about football because I said Salah is probably better than Saka?!!? Although based on this season's stats Saka has been better for Arsenal than Salah has been for Liverpool thus far based on data so perhaps this is the season where Saka overtakes Salah (who is getting on a bit now)
A bit worrying when West Ham conceded first last night in the Europa after having most of the game.
Scored 3 in the second half though so all is well.
Our new player Kudus from Ajax looks a great buy.
In fact the money we got for Rice looks to have been well spent on three players - Kudus, Alvarez and Ward-Prowse.
Fair exchange I'd say.
Cheers,
Neil.
I'd agree there, especially Ward-Prowse who is deadly at set pieces.
Ryan please stop this madness.I haven't got a clue about football because I said Salah is probably better than Saka?!!? Although based on this season's stats Saka has been better for Arsenal than Salah has been for Liverpool thus far based on data so perhaps this is the season where Saka overtakes Salah (who is getting on a bit now)
Salah has better stats than any winger to ever play the game.
Saka is a very good player but he’s nowhere near the level of Salah.
Salah scored 19 league goals and 12 assists in a dogshit Liverpool side last year that had no midfield.
Saka got 14 and 11 in a team that topped the table for 90% of the year.
It’s levels buddy.
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Um latest stats...Salah has played 1 less game (Saka extra game is community shield)I haven't got a clue about football because I said Salah is probably better than Saka?!!? Although based on this season's stats Saka has been better for Arsenal than Salah has been for Liverpool thus far based on data so perhaps this is the season where Saka overtakes Salah (who is getting on a bit now)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football...al/top-scorers
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football...ol/top-scorers
Overall looking at both teams very similar, we don't play Liverpool and Brighton until December, Toon in November. Within next 4 EPL games are AngeSpurs, Man Citeh and Chelsea so guess will have an idea at where we are after those. I only attend the home games and have just MoTD for external team form for reference but I think we aren't as good as last year (excluding the end of season fade) but only to be expected when rotating/ playing formation and keepy bally. Comparing last season respective matches we are 1 point up but with less goals scored...
Oh well off to the NLD and hope some entertaining football breaks out, and weather better than PSV (who hadn't lost in ~26 games prior to playing us but were a bit kind on lack of pressing).
Can't wait for the game against PSG next week, our first CL game in 20 years. It'll be an incredible occasion and the ground will be an unreal place to be. It's always a great atmosphere at SJP but this will be unreal. Definitely a night for getting to the ground early. First CL game ever for my kids so looking forward to them experiencing the full-on SJP experience.
Oh and we'll be watching arguably the best player in the world right now. Yep, Dan Burn ;)
I was just being mischievous, I totally agree with you for what it is worth.
I am a Liverpool fan and may well be biased as most football fans are, however that doesn’t blind me to the fact that other teams players managers are better than my lot at what they do and I am not afraid to admit the same when that is the case.
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Rashford has to shoot in that position!
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Second good finish, took it well and his pace looked impressive.
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Well that didn’t last long!
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Defence is rubbish!
United are ba…………….
Aaah never mind !!
What a stupid challenge! What a silly keeper they have signed.
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Icardi was charitable with penalty and then redeems himself quite esquisitely.
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I'm beginning to think my optimism about Arsenal doing well in the CL was misplaced. Shot ourselves in the foot, Lens keeper was excellent but without Martinelli and Saka we have no pace and cutting edge.
You should progress to next stages unless Saka is a long term injury, don’t see you getting much further than that though. I didn’t watch the game yesterday and say that mostly on your history.
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From what I remember degea wasn't great when he first started Manu.
Poor game, should not be losing to Lens. Still some stupid decisions, taking off Odegaard to bring on Nketiah was just stupid, lost all our creativity for someone who did not even touch the ball for 15 mins.
We do miss Martinelli, and now Saka. We needed to get than Man U striker, he looks a good player, same money as Havertz :-(
Arsenal look a shadow of the team they were last season. I don't understand how Havertz starts and Trossard doesn't. Why sign Smith-Rowe to another contract then give him the odd five minutes here and there? I certainly don't fear them this season.
PSG were/are utterly dreadful, like watching a mid table team.
What's the point of PSG?
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PSG utter shambles. Newcastle playing like Brazil. Shearer will need fresh pants!
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Well done Newcastle. Some noise at St James'. Absolutely nobody will relish going there to play against them. Pubs will be doing a brisk trade in the city tonight!
Just got back to the car. The game and the atmosphere were incredible. Nobody will relish coming here but then we all knew that.
Great stuff David. That’s a brilliant result .
You shouldn’t fear anyone .
City played within themselves tonight. Rico Lewis was sensational and I’m running out of superlatives for Alvarez.
Cheers Lee. I just heard Pep talking about the talent Lewis has - wow! He was excellent last week at our place.
Howay the Lads!
What a return to CL at SJP for Newcastle, brilliant result. Howe has created a great team spirit and unity, almost a complete contrast to PSG. Mbappe is such an immense talent but he epitomises everything that’s wrong at PSG. They deserve each other.
You're spot-on! Mbappe is the very reason Howe doesn't look to buy mega-stars even though we have the money to do it. He has a team that believes in his methods and will run through walls for each other. When you watch us live it's amazing to see the organisation and discipline right through the team. Our wide players do so much work back and forth and, when they can't get back, the midfield players move out to cover for them.
I need to mention Lacselles though. He's been here for years and has been a brilliant servant but most fans would agree that he's not a top-end PL CB. He hasn't played for around a year other than a few minutes here and there and I wouldn't have played him last night as I don't think he's good enough. I'd have moved Burn to left side CB and played Targett at LB. Shows what I know eh!
He's played three full games in a row and has been absolutely immense. Apart from a few sloppy passes last night and against Man City he's been brilliant. Could he be about to save us £80m on a new CB? I hope so because he deserves it after being so professional throughout his time here.
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