What Bezel oil?

Hello,

3M 08897 Silicone Lubricant (Dry Type) was recommended on another forum to try and free up my bezel on my seiko mm300 marinemaster.

I can not find it on amazon, is it a specialist oil that i need to hunt down or are there other alternatives out there?

thanks for your time
Martin

I'd have a good go at cleaning it first. Submerge in soapy water and work the bezel round or if its really bad try dental floss to clean under it.

Had the same issue with my own MM300. Washing wouldn't shift it.
I just found some random silicon oil, wet a piece of floss with it and ran it underneath a bit. Job done.

WD40 is the usual go to for anything seized.

Can't see it will free a bezel, won't solvent will evaporate virtually straight away?

Should work as a lubricant though - or maybe use a PTFE lubricant as used on bike chains etc (once freed).

I’ve always used silicone on my dive watch bezels.

What about this,

WD-40 Specialist Dry PTFE Lubricant Spray - Ideal for Long Lasting Protection & Lubrication on Metal, Plastic & Rubber Surfaces https://amzn.eu/d/1xhxMuL

Even has a picture of a watch mechanical movement on the can, might work.

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Had this issue before and floss did it...eventually.

If really stuck you need rubber kitchen gloves for better grip,it will go eventually.

Hot soapy water and a soft toothbrush first turning it if possible. Have also used floss in addition on a few extreme cases.

I’d say most silicon grease would do but I’d echo the soapy water and the good ladies toothbrush 😂

I've used WD40 to free seized bezels in the past.

Does the job.

Failing all above try a chisel and hammer...

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Originally Posted by Neil.C

I've used WD40 to free seized bezels in the past.

Does the job.

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Would it not attract more crap

Is this one of the Seikos with a rubber O ring securing the bezel creating an interference fit? If so I would be wary of using a light oil such as WD40, it may cause the rubber to swell slightly and create more problems. Provided the watch is watertight I would try submerging in water and washing up liquid whilst trying to operate the bezel, hopefully this will free it up. I’ve never tried dental floss, sounds like it might be a good way to get dirt out without taking the bezel off.

Its surprising how much dirt accumulates under a bezel, worst I’ve see was a bezel packed full if dried up soap which had caused the aluminium insert to start corroding, the owner admitted to wearing it in the shower frequently!

Avoid goose fat.

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Originally Posted by walkerwek1958

Is this one of the Seikos with a rubber O ring securing the bezel creating an interference fit? If so I would be wary of using a light oil such as WD40, it may cause the rubber to swell slightly and create more problems. Provided the watch is watertight I would try submerging in water and washing up liquid whilst trying to operate the bezel, hopefully this will free it up. I’ve never tried dental floss, sounds like it might be a good way to get dirt out without taking the bezel off.

Its surprising how much dirt accumulates under a bezel, worst I’ve see was a bezel packed full if dried up soap which had caused the aluminium insert to start corroding, the owner admitted to wearing it in the shower frequently!

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I don't think Seiko, or anyone else, uses rubber any more, and instead use silicon gaskets which do not tend to swell, or much else. Either way, I was assuming that freeing the bezel up was a prelude to removing the bezel to clean it properly as we all know just how much crud can end up underneath and work as grinding paste when lubricated.

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Originally Posted by Neil.C

I've used WD40 to free seized bezels in the past.

Does the job.

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Not to mention wedding rings, bolts, piston rings, wasp nests and stains, for a start. Wonderful stuff.

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Originally Posted by M4tt

I don't think Seiko, or anyone else, uses rubber any more, and instead use silicon gaskets which do not tend to swell, or much else.

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It's nitrile rubber they use, same as the crown and caseback gaskets.

WD40 is a water dispersal fluid primarily, I use a product called Toolbox Buddy for seized stuff available from motor factors.

WD40 also do a penetrating oil.

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Originally Posted by LondonNeil

I'd have a good go at cleaning it first. Submerge in soapy water and work the bezel round or if its really bad try dental floss to clean under it.

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I have tried the soapy water remedy but while it worked for a while it has gone stiff again.

The dental floss does not seem to take anything off looking at it after use.
No better turning the bezel after the floss either

thanks

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Originally Posted by Kingstepper

Can't see it will free a bezel, won't solvent will evaporate virtually straight away?

Should work as a lubricant though - or maybe use a PTFE lubricant as used on bike chains etc (once freed).

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I used "GT 85" with ptfe lubricant spray.
You can get it in aldi and on amazon.
I did not see a rubber ring underneath when i prised it off from the 12 o clock position.
Thus i am hopeful it will not damage anything longer term.

It works great now.
Hopefully it will last longer than the soap and water improvement i tried earlier

thanks

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Originally Posted by trott3r

I used "GT 85" with ptfe lubricant spray.
You can get it in aldi and on amazon.

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Tesco as well, about £3 a go.

I would really recommend cleaning out from underneath the bezel with some floss and warm soapy water before applying any lubricant as you will just make a mushy mess. It will probably be the dirt that’s causing the issue.


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