New 38mm range launched this week.
Really taken with these, especially the panda.
https://www.zenith-watches.com/int/p...0-3600-21-c903
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New 38mm range launched this week.
Really taken with these, especially the panda.
https://www.zenith-watches.com/int/p...0-3600-21-c903
The panda is the standout for me too. Looking forward to seeing some real world pics of it.
Zenith seem to be on a roll.
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That's bloody lovely, and has the new cal. 3600 movement too. If I didn't have the Chronomaster Sport I'd be buying one without a moment's hesitation.
The date placement is appalling. It's otherwise, bordering on perfect
It’s the first watch in ages that has my attention, very much looking forward to trying it. The date doesn’t worry me as there’s plenty else going on, even polished centre links make sense on this. Finally something interesting in 38mm that I could actually wear!
This thread needs some pictures…
https://shop.zenith-watches.com/medi...im=Resize=1000
https://swisswatches-magazine.com/wp...-Wristshot.jpg
https://swisswatches-magazine.com/blog/zenith-el-primero-chronomaster-original/
This release was inevitable. I think it’s a stunner. I’m waiting on a blue dial version though.
That’s really nice. I wonder if they will be released in 42mm ( the old 38mm wore small & I have slim wrists).
It already exists as the boutique edition of this watch. I saw it the other day at the boutique and was stunning.Quote:
Originally Posted by ac11111
Do you mean the white dial with blue subdial manufacture edition? I was thinking more a blue dial like the a3818 cover girl version.Quote:
Originally Posted by kaiserphoenix
Nope there is a blue dial Chronomaster Original, ie the watch we are discussing right now. NOT the manufacture edition. But only sold through boutiques. Its very new so may not be advertised yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by ac11111
https://i.imgur.com/5uS824jl.jpg
Also not sure how many people care about this but on Zenith's website, it states 20/16 as the lug width on the spec sheet but that is INCORRECT. The correct lug spacing is 19mm. The same as the A386. I measured this myself at the boutique with the staff. Zenith has been notified of this error.
Cool didn’t realise this was released, think they should go with an all blue one though like the A3818 cover girl version belowQuote:
Originally Posted by kaiserphoenix
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AD just sent me these pictures of the panda. Looks pretty awesome. I've got way too many chronos but it's very tempting.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...a026a245c7.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...af078610f3.jpg
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Looks stunning is that case gold or steel?Quote:
Originally Posted by zen123
SteelQuote:
Originally Posted by beechcustom
This and the revival are really nice looking watches, but at 38mm a tiny bit small for me (though I guess the revival case shape might mean it seems a bit bigger). I really love this brown dial https://www.zenith-watches.com/int/p...4-400-385-m385
Apparently these should be available towards the end of the month, with a bit of luck. In the meantime though, I’m struggling to think of anything in my life that actually needs timing to 1/10th of a second, cool as that party trick is. I guess those boiled eggs will be absolutely perfect.
YouTube channel WatchAdvisor has a hands on presentation of these new models:
https://youtu.be/oPxZngQLKU8
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I still fail to understand why Zenith give all their best watches a wonky date window but don't bother making a non-date version. Rolex can handle it with the Submariner, I'm sure I'm not the only one who'd buy a Zenith like this with no date. As it is there's as much chance of me buying one of these as there is a Graham.
Apart from the new movement and slightly altered second hand (star removed), I'm struggling to see much difference between this and the previous discontinued 38mm tricolour EP.
Is the case a different shape?
Edit; just noticed are the crown and chronograph pushers slightly larger?
I like the date where it is. I had an (original) original EP and also a 90’s Rainbow and found it great to read with your write slightly off level. If you wear on your right arm you’re screwed though....
Zen123 what’s the UK RRP?
Lug shape looks slightly different and as you say the pushers look larger and the crown looks bigger and flatter.Quote:
Originally Posted by klunk
Bracelet is closer to that one on the chronomaster sport I think with the Rolex style clasp.
I’m tempted but wouldn’t buy a Zenith without a discount and that’s going to be hard on a brand new model.
Panda on a bracelet and get the strap separately would be my choice.
£7100 on strap or £7500 bracelet. They are available to buy now. I was offered quite a nice discount for them which made it so so tempting. Problem is I have too many chronos so I'll see in the future if I go for one.Quote:
Originally Posted by pete-r
Name a great chronometer design complete with date. Have there been any? Chrono dials struggle with all the details, a date window is just one more thing. Too much.
Those two ‘classics’ the Speedy and the Daytona, both sidestep the issue. Very sensible….
Yep, I’m afraid the date is a bit of a puncture on this one….
I generally prefer no date on anything other than full calendar watches, but this watch looks great overall, I think it can be forgiven. Even better if the ladder bracelet off the other revival pieces fits, anyone know?
On a point above, integrating dates within a sub dial can be inoffensive. It works on the latest Breitling chronomats.
It’s a stunner but 38mm?
I think Zenith have short sided themselves on size.
It’s interesting that Zenith and IWC are producing some stunning cost effective watches, probably to compete with potential Daytona
Purchasers.
It’s intended to be faithful to the original though. It’s not as if people who like larger watches don’t have enough options, including similar watches from Zenith themselves. The occasional smaller watch might sell well, as options are limited for those who find most modern watches slightly oversized.Quote:
Originally Posted by geoffcotton
i agree. other than the date it’s more or less the perfect chronoQuote:
Originally Posted by WarrenVrs
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I like the Zenith date treatment and always have, it's functional and distinctive being clearly identified with the brand for decades and their El Primero chronograph watches in particular.
What I'm really not keen on, are tiny date windows at 6 o'clock, for the sake of symmetry, where the slightest misalignment of the date wheel really shows and it sometimes eats into either a running seconds or hours register (if the watch has one).
About half my colection is non date watches or those with date sundials, the others all have date windows. I'm more bothered about function and the overall design - the Zenith date doesn't put me off at all.
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Mostly I agree with you. But 40mm Diameter is more the ‘norm’ now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Itsguy
That’s the problem for me - what we all need is a range of sizes for different people, but almost every watch aims for ‘the norm’, a median size. Which is sensible up to a point as that should result in the most sales, but in a brand’s collection it doesn’t make sense as they’re all the same. You end up with vanishingly few in 38mm, which is the sweet spot for a significant minority. I don’t mind that most aim for an average size, but the odd one I could actually wear is appreciated!Quote:
Originally Posted by geoffcotton
It’s also a factor that some revivals look best in their original proportions, make them larger and you start having to change the whole design. Logos become visible across a room, and acres of empty space appear on the dial. As an example, the Rolex Oyster Perpetual 41 has very little in common with its vintage ancestors.
Looks good to me. Still abstaining for now. I wonder if discounts can be had in the European market? Great size - without a bezel it looks superb.
The date position is a non-issue for me and gives a balance to the quadrants that would be spoiled otherwise.
Point taken.Quote:
Originally Posted by Itsguy
The interesting question , over many years, is why is the Daytona so popular? No rival has been as successful. And I doubt that the ‘secret’ can be reduced just to size. Do even Rolex understand this phenomena? No wonder they seem reluctant to tinker with the case size,
I’m sure the late 70’s and 80’s Daytona’s we’re 37/38mm case size. But modern 40mm Rolex sports watches seem to appeal to the vast majority.Quote:
Originally Posted by paskinner
I don’t think it has. Almost immediately before the ceramic Daytona you could pick them up for circa 6k second hand. And I may be wrong but they were reasonably easy to get from an ADQuote:
Originally Posted by paskinner
Bumping this as I've not spotted any pics posted yet and wondering if anyone took the plunge?
I haven’t nosed around shops in central London for many months now, is there a watch shop (I think they are called boutiques, salons or ADs these days?) in London that normally has a pretty good selection of Zeniths? I’d like to take a peek at the 38mm Original. There’s a shop that sells Zeniths in Kingston, but the display is never impressive.
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