Sinn. So nearly perfect!

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10th January 2022, 23:13
Ari

Sinn. So nearly perfect!

I'm always wanted an Orfina Porsche Design in black PVD, like this:

https://www.timeline.watch/wp-conten...b_P1220789.jpg

The closest thing I've seen is a Sinn 144 ST SA, like this:

https://www.sinn.de/bilder/uhr/960x1...uBSERblv7.webp

But it's stainless steel, not PVD. If only they made a PVD version. And then they did, like this!

https://www.sinn.de/bilder/uhr/960x1...ssPiiTv5L.webp

It's SO nearly perfect, but the whole 'blackout' look is ruined by the silver sub dials. I wrote to them to ask whether they could make me one with the standard all black face from the standard watch, but they said no.

So now I wonder about this 140ST, which, in all black, seems to be as close as I can get. But I worry that it's too chunky and too fussy (an awful lot going on with that dial).

https://www.sinn.de/bilder/uhr/960x1...AKFXmjCYm.webp

So close to the perfect watch, but not quite. If only they'd put the all black dial on the PVD 144... :(
11th January 2022, 02:50
earlofsodbury

If you can live with a used watch, Sinn have made a fair number of limited editions of the 144 with all-black dials, and either red or orange chrono hands - there's a couple on Chrono24, e.g.

https://cdn2.chrono24.com/images/uhr...ExtraLarge.jpg

Although straying from the lugless theme, Hanhart's Primus is worth a look:

https://www.hanhart.com/wp-content/u...10/740.510.jpg
11th January 2022, 10:53
sweets

Why settle for anything less than an Orfina Porsche Design?
They are readily available and relatively affordable. I have had a few, they are one of the truly great designs.
D
11th January 2022, 11:07
Carlton-Browne

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweets

Why settle for anything less than an Orfina Porsche Design?
They are readily available and relatively affordable. I have had a few, they are one of the truly great designs.
D

That's what I was thinking - you don't need to look for a substitute. It would likely be cheaper and you could even get it re-PVDed* and be less than a new Sinn.

*personally I wouldn't bother.
11th January 2022, 14:37
Ascalon

Is that a Lemania 5100 movement in the Oerfina?
It looks like the movement in a Speedie Mark 4.5
11th January 2022, 15:44
sweets

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ascalon

Is that a Lemania 5100 movement in the Oerfina?
It looks like the movement in a Speedie Mark 4.5

The omega 1045 is the Lemania 5100. It just has a bit of Omega plating on it.
Just like every Omega chronograph movement up until the use of the 7750 in certain speedies was a Lemania movement. The 321, 861, 1040 etc etc
11th January 2022, 16:04
Rev-O

"Sin. So nearly perfect!"

Theologically accurate.
11th January 2022, 19:10
Mean_Go_Getter

Or, scratch the itch for £260.

https://i.ibb.co/JHG5TCt/D18473-D0-F...-E97-E5-B.webp

Cheers,
M
11th January 2022, 19:14
AIDM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rev-O

"Sin. So nearly perfect!"

Theologically accurate.

Wish we could 'like' posts! Made my day Rev.
11th January 2022, 19:46
Ascalon

@Mean_go_Getter: That's a cracking homage.
I'd have one of them.
13th January 2022, 12:58
Ari

Quote:

Originally Posted by earlofsodbury

If you can live with a used watch, Sinn have made a fair number of limited editions of the 144 with all-black dials, and either red or orange chrono hands - there's a couple on Chrono24, e.g.

https://cdn2.chrono24.com/images/uhr...ExtraLarge.jpg

Although straying from the lugless theme, Hanhart's Primus is worth a look:

https://www.hanhart.com/wp-content/u...10/740.510.jpg

That's nice!

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sweets

Why settle for anything less than an Orfina Porsche Design?
They are readily available and relatively affordable. I have had a few, they are one of the truly great designs.
D

Just finding one I guess. I've only ever bought used watches from Sales Corner on here, not sure where to look and who to trust.
13th January 2022, 12:59
Ari

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rev-O

"Sin. So nearly perfect!"

Theologically accurate.

Brilliant!! :D

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mean_Go_Getter

Or, scratch the itch for £260.

https://i.ibb.co/JHG5TCt/D18473-D0-F...-E97-E5-B.webp

Cheers,
M

Intriguing! I wonder whether they are any good?
13th January 2022, 13:21
Dave+63

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mean_Go_Getter

Or, scratch the itch for £260.

https://i.ibb.co/JHG5TCt/D18473-D0-F...-E97-E5-B.webp

Cheers,
M

No picture on tapatalk but I’m guessing it’s one of these!

https://danhenrywatches.com/collecti...ck-chronograph
14th January 2022, 00:29
Ari

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave+63

No picture on tapatalk but I’m guessing it’s one of these!

https://danhenrywatches.com/collecti...ck-chronograph

It is indeed. Just ordered one!
19th January 2022, 09:27
CaptainRockNRoll

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ari

I'm always wanted an Orfina Porsche Design in black PVD

https://wornandwound.com/porsche-des...mited-edition/
19th January 2022, 14:23
sweets

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ari

It is indeed. Just ordered one!

I fear you will be disappointed with the quality by comparison to the real thing.

Love the new re-issue, and really love the fact that, because the Lemania movement is not available, they have re-created the original '72 case design, with its sharper angled chamfers on the crystal surround. The later Lemania version (which W&W have used for the advert pic - doh) has a very different one, with a smooth bullnose.

D
19th January 2022, 16:40
ENES

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweets

Why settle for anything less than an Orfina Porsche Design?
They are readily available and relatively affordable. I have had a few, they are one of the truly great designs.
D

I’ve been on the lookout for a good original example of an Orfina Porsche Design Chronograph 1 for a while, do you know of any that are currently being sold - not sure they are readily available, but would be more than happy to be proved wrong!
19th January 2022, 17:24
sweets

I freely admit I may be a little out of date, but (like many watches) these were mass produced and should not be too rare. I have owned about 5 or 6, from recollection, and I also got one restored one completely, getting it re-coated by Schifferle & Schifferle (the rightful successors to Orfina), having found a donor movement and so forth.
This is it after restoration

https://i.postimg.cc/LXjg7tcX/IMG-9763-zpsxb3hgmj2.jpg

In that respect, I have noticed that recently on Ebay, a lot of dials, crowns, bracelets and even some watches (one UK seller recently sold 3 in a week for about £700 each for restoration) have been popping up.

D
19th January 2022, 21:13
ENES

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweets

This is it after restoration
https://i.postimg.cc/LXjg7tcX/IMG-9763-zpsxb3hgmj2.jpg

That looks very nice - thanks for the info.
19th January 2022, 21:38
ENES

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ari

So close to the perfect watch, but not quite. If only they'd put the all black dial on the PVD 144... :(

This looks like what you need :-
An unworn Sinn 144 ST S Jubilee LE from 2014
https://www.worldoftime.de/Watches/s...onograph-30766
https://worldoftime.azureedge.net/wo...89a516f_44.jpg
19th January 2022, 21:41
Sinnlover

The Orfina PD is a watch I have always wanted but for some reason never bought and I have no idea why!
Would need to be a H3 dial though (Royal Navy even better)
The green PVD versions looks the bo11ox.
22nd January 2022, 18:48
Ari

Quote:

Originally Posted by ENES

This looks like what you need :-
An unworn Sinn 144 ST S Jubilee LE from 2014
https://www.worldoftime.de/Watches/s...onograph-30766
https://worldoftime.azureedge.net/wo...89a516f_44.jpg

That looks nice!

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainRockNRoll

https://wornandwound.com/porsche-des...mited-edition/

Wow, that is SO tempting! Over £5,000 though..! Ouch.
23rd January 2022, 15:35
Ari

Just checked the site, £6,550!

What a shame...
23rd January 2022, 15:58
FrontierGibberish

Somehow I've never owned a Sinn, or even tried one on. Not quite sure how this has happened as I've always really liked them from afar.