Red traffic light jumpers.
It’s the type of posts like the 2 above that helps create the polarisation. False equivalences in a debate hardly benefit the cause of those who make them.
Yes, cars will kill more people than cycling. And so will tobacco, booze and cancer.
Yes, cycling is good for your health, especially if you have an office job as it gives you a proper workout. It would even be better (low impact) if our road network was maintained.
Yes, cycling also contribute to lowering CO2 emissions and improving air quality in towns when used instead of a car for personal transport.
And many more. Hardly anyone, here or in the wider world, dispute this.
Lycra clad cyclists are mostly non commuters cycling for pleasure. Nothing wrong with that except when they interfere with people in the course of their normal activities, just like any other hobbyist. A group of runners/ ramblers walking on the road and blocking traffic would be a nuisance too. Likewise car drivers or motorcyclists using their machine for any sort of sport on the roads, or off roads.
Once bicycle proponents here start to understand this, and act accordingly, the polarisation will disappear and we will come to a more constructive discussion about mutual respect on the road and in society in general.
Red traffic light jumpers.
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Originally Posted by
Kingstepper
Likely that many of those moaning about cyclists holding them up are drivers/riders with 'nice' cars/motorcycles out for a blast, bimble(?) or whatever and the vehicles are never used for commuting.
I’d be curious to see your data on this. Those who have «*nice*» cars going for a spin beyond their drive are likely to be part of a wealthier community than the majority.
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Originally Posted by
MrSmith
Another example of motonormitivity.
They(Ramblers) have an inalienable right to be on the Kings highway the motorist is merely licensed which is a privilege revokable by the state at any time.
Ramblers walking on the road or anyone else for that matter who wants to walk from A to B for whatever reason will find many motorists more than just a nuisance, they are themselves ‘traffic’ yet are putting their lives in danger just to walk from the village to the pub on a road without a pavement due to the way many motorists drive.
Another straw man. No one questions their right to be on the road. Just that blocking faster travelling people (cyclists or motorists alike) are likely to show some impatience if they don’t let them through when they have the opportunity to do so.