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    Possibly the best value watch I've owned

    Usually a “bang for buck” watch thread becomes a list a lot of fantastic watches you can pick up for not much money and are great performers. I think my Seiko SKX009 and Christopher Ward C60 Trident quartz fit nicely into this category; great watches, well built, and not a lot of money to buy. This one may seem a little strange then as a bang for buck watch given it's reasonable cost but the more I think about it, the more I think this is the best value watch I’ve owned, the Zenith Choronmaster Moonphase.

    For starters, it looks absolutely gorgeous. It’s 38.5mm diameter and about 13mm thick and features the wonderful and in house El Primero 410z movement, a true hi beat (36,000 vph) COSC certified movement that can measure 10ths of a second and makes the seconds hand move very smoothly. For the few who may not know, this is the movement Rolex used in the Daytona until they got around to making their own movement for it. The movement has a 50 hour power reserve and contains 354 individual parts. Mine has gained 1 second in 2 days wearing it all day and storing it dial up overnight.

    As well as normal time telling features it also has a chronograph, moon phase, and calendar featuring day, date, AND month.

    Build quality and fit and finish of this watch is absolutely superb. I’ve owned a few Zeniths prior to this but this particular model has really stood out for me. The pushers for the chrono are solid and have a very satisfying click to them when pushed and there is no “play” at all in the crown when setting the hands.

    It also features a sapphire crystal display back so you can see the El Primero movement in all its glory.

    So, for your money you get:

    A well respected, in house hi beat movement
    Sapphire crystal front and back
    Hours, minutes, seconds
    Day, Date, Month
    Moonphase
    Chronograph capable of measuring 10ths of a second
    Very high build quality

    Now to the bang for buck part which some may agree or disagree with but I’ve seen these go on forums for between £2200 - £2600 depending on age / condition and whether it’s the bracelet or strap version which given the movement, complications, and general build of the watch I think is a real bargain. Mine came with all original boxes and paperwork and is near mint showing no signs of wear to the head and minimal to the strap (which I changed for a Hirsch Viscount I had in my strap box as I preferred it) so was at the higher end of the quoted figures through a trade deal but to me still a hell of a lot of watch for the money.


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    I think you've just sold this me. Right size and complications at a sensible(?) price

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    Mooar photos please!

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    Very good quality watch for the price.

    It is a good looker as well, though I would have preferred just markers rather than the Roman numerals.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Beaunidle View Post
    Mooar photos please!
    Here's the others I took:








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    Quote Originally Posted by SIB View Post
    El Primero 410z movement, For the few who may not know, this is the movement Rolex used in the Daytona until they got around to making their own movement for it.
    Not quite, Rolex reference 16520 used a movement based on the Zenith El Primero 400, it was simplified and had its beat rate reduced to 28,800, from 1988 to 2000.

    Had a Chronomaster triple date for a while, great movement, beautiful to look at, but I moved it on as it was a little too dressy for my taste at the time, as I get older I do keep an eye one for one occasionally, and it'd have to be a recent service, full B&Ps and on a bracelet
    Last edited by nunya; 22nd March 2016 at 12:14.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nunya View Post
    Not quite, Rolex reference 16520 used a movement based on the Zenith El Primero 400, it was simplified and had its beat rate reduced to 28,800, from 1988 to 2000.

    Had a Chronomaster triple date for a while, great movement, beautiful to look at, but I moved it on as it was a little too dressy for my taste at the time, as I get older I do keep an eye one for one occasionally, and it'd have to be a recent service, full B&Ps and on a bracelet
    Thanks for the clarity on the exact version used. I knew Rolex slowed the movement down for longer service intervals / better longevity of the movement.

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    Zenith do make (mostly - Rolling Stones Model not withstanding) awesome watches, and they are a brand mostly under the radar, unless you are a watch nerd like we are. :) just way out of my price range sadly.

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    Certainly good value for money for the prices you mention, and a beautiful watch overall. My only dislike is the date which really kills it for me, not that I can afford watches at the moment(I'm closer to selling than buying sadly), would look far better without it IMO.

    Still, cracking watch and the display back is the icing on the cake, what a beautiful movement.

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    Picked one up recently, so still in the honeymoon phase so to speak.
    Nice pictures (better than mine, need to figure out how to get them the right way round!)
    http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.ph...=1#post3897646
    I found this thread a useful reference in my searches.
    http://forums.watchuseek.com/f27/sho...r-1041394.html
    Also a 2002 catalog I was able to pick up on the forum.
    (list price with bracelet then was almost £5K)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eamon View Post
    Picked one up recently, so still in the honeymoon phase so to speak.
    Nice pictures (better than mine, need to figure out how to get them the right way round!)
    http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.ph...=1#post3897646
    I found this thread a useful reference in my searches.
    http://forums.watchuseek.com/f27/sho...r-1041394.html
    Also a 2002 catalog I was able to pick up on the forum.
    (list price with bracelet then was almost £5K)
    Very nice! Will look better in leather I think.

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    Fantastic. Lovely clear sub-dials that don't intrude upon one another. The minutes subdials is wonderfully labelled. Very nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 893bet View Post
    Very nice! Will look better in leather I think.
    I tend to agree, but always try to buy with bracelet where possible.
    In this case, I believe with some zeniths of this generation it's not possible to replace a strap with a bracelet (but vice versa is ok).
    Wasn't able to confirm with my research.

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    A beautiful watch with a beautiful movement . A great quality watch for the price .

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    Fantastic looking watch!

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    Lots of useful complications neatly laid out, congratulations.

    Now how did you manage to get the hands & part of the dial to appear red in one of your photos?

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    Really nice. As and when I feel the need to trade up then Zenith are a distinct possibility. Lovely watch and size but whilst the roman numerals may be right for the style I'm not a fan of them per se. Gorgeous finish and movement though so appreciate your vfm judgement.

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    that case is in stainless steel.looks bright and decent

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    Envious, yes I am. That is the Zenith I have been looking at for some time, although I prefer the watch on a bracelet. Oh dear looks like I might have to find room next to my Captain Winsor.

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