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    Well done on the half - the start (I hope) to many more!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Progressive View Post
    Great effort Darren! Any tips or guidance for the big day? (I've got my first half coming up).

    Did you follow a training plan of any sort to build up to the distance?
    All I did was log on to the Run Wigan Festival website which was covering the half marathon, and they had links to various level training programmes. I did the beginner level, aiming for 2:20-2:30 time. I tried to follow the mileage build-up without worrying over speed/pace, just needed to complete it comfortably. On race day I did not follow a pacemaker, didn’t want the pressure, just put my earphones in & relaxed into the music.
    I have to amend the above “Strava” time, race chip logged me at 2:17, still under my 2:20 goal and no injuries.

    Have a look at your race route to check for hills, if you only train flat , a race day hill can drain you mentally as well as physically.
    Take it easy, go at your own pace, relax and enjoy.
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    Reading Half yesterday 1:47. 4 minutes off PB but cool with that as I have been training for endurance not speed. Took first few KM’s easy and came home fast!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chalet View Post
    Reading Half yesterday 1:47. 4 minutes off PB but cool with that as I have been training for endurance not speed. Took first few KM’s easy and came home fast!
    That’s a great time…. Well done 👍🏼

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    I ran 12 miles today and couldn’t go much further. I can’t quite believe I’ve got to run that twice and more to get to 26 in September (Berlin).

    Any tips for faster recovery?


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    Quote Originally Posted by TAG0001 View Post
    I ran 12 miles today and couldn’t go much further. I can’t quite believe I’ve got to run that twice and more to get to 26 in September (Berlin).

    Any tips for faster recovery?


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    Spread the 26 miles over 2 or 3 days maybe Richard?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    Spread the 26 miles over 2 or 3 days maybe Richard?
    I might miss my flight back!


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    96th Parkrun today, and still struggling with my pacing. 30 years ago I could do half marathons at 6.15 mins a mile, and not deviate by more than 5 seconds. Today, over the 5k, it was 7.02, 7.24 and 7.44 - and that is where my pacing always seems to end up now!! Really need to sort it out.

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    That’s still good running Andrzej - well done.

    Do you think you’d set out a little quick? I have an out and back 4 mile route at home. When I really went for it I got a time I was happy with. A few months the later I set out but took the 2 mile out leg at about 90% and same on the way back. I was 40 secs down at the turnaround, but only 5 secs off my best time by the time I got home - and I felt there was more to give at the end too.

    And in all sincerity, I think you’re going very strong - especially as you’re cycling and running.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TAG0001 View Post
    I ran 12 miles today and couldn’t go much further. I can’t quite believe I’ve got to run that twice and more to get to 26 in September (Berlin).

    Any tips for faster recovery?


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    Depending on what I’ve done, I might have a decent recovery shake and/or cherry active.

    Have also got some compression clothing that has pockets for ice packs that works well.

    The wife also bought me a compex machine that is really good for recovery.

    Did Wilmslow Half yesterday and it’s been a massive help today

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    Haven’t commented here for a while but here’s an update;

    Friend of mine is currently training for the Liverpool HM so I (stupidly IMO) asked if I could join her on some training sessions, so I could up my miles.

    Managed to get up to 2 10k’s to start, completed 7 miles one evening this week and we’re off out for 8 miles tomorrow morning.

    It’s the furthest I’ve ran in about 20 years, but I’m feeling good about it. I honestly didn’t think I had it in me since I started running again last year with the C25K but these longer sessions are working wonders for my shorter runs, I even got a 5k PB on Friday morning!

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    Quote Originally Posted by goregasm View Post
    Haven’t commented here for a while but here’s an update;

    Friend of mine is currently training for the Liverpool HM so I (stupidly IMO) asked if I could join her on some training sessions, so I could up my miles.

    Managed to get up to 2 10k’s to start, completed 7 miles one evening this week and we’re off out for 8 miles tomorrow morning.

    It’s the furthest I’ve ran in about 20 years, but I’m feeling good about it. I honestly didn’t think I had it in me since I started running again last year with the C25K but these longer sessions are working wonders for my shorter runs, I even got a 5k PB on Friday morning!
    Good work dude…. I’ll be working up to an HM soon I hope…

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    Last 7.5km I think I’ve injured my hamstring! Been off running now for two weeks 😩😡

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    Good work dude…. I’ll be working up to an HM soon I hope…
    Cheers, our training plan goes up to 11m so if I get that far I’ll be happy. I do plan on continuing the longer runs though

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    Just a bit of advice please.

    I am going on holiday and will run (Fenix connected to the Garmin App) but I do not want the runs showing in Strava for obvious reasons. It seems easy enough to disconnect Strava in the Garmin Q app, but when I reconnect will it load the runs up, I don’t want to lose the runs on my Strava total.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pitch3110 View Post
    Chaps

    Just a bit of advice please.

    I am going on holiday and will run (Fenix connected to the Garmin App) but I do not want the runs showing in Strava for obvious reasons. It seems easy enough to disconnect Strava in the Garmin Q app, but when I reconnect will it load the runs up, I don’t want to lose the runs on my Strava total.

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    Paul…. Set the place your staying at as your home and then create an exclusion zone

    Also…. What’s wrong with showing your run abroad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pitch3110 View Post
    Chaps

    Just a bit of advice please.

    I am going on holiday and will run (Fenix connected to the Garmin App) but I do not want the runs showing in Strava for obvious reasons. It seems easy enough to disconnect Strava in the Garmin Q app, but when I reconnect will it load the runs up, I don’t want to lose the runs on my Strava total.

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    Save the runs as ‘private’ in your Strava?

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    Good parkrun this morning. Reckon I knocked 20 odd seconds from my pb. New shoes helped they're great.

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    Haven't commented on this thread before - and good luck to anyone racing today; it's a bit chilly out - our local half marathon is on as I type and I don't envy them.

    I've got no races planned for a while - probably will do a 60miler later this year on if circumstances allow; currently just ticking over after taking a rest from last year's 100miler.

    Half/full road marathon is something I'd like to have a crack at one year but all that on-road doesn't agree with me and I'm a miserable sod that doesn't enjoy running in crowds

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megatron View Post
    Haven't commented on this thread before - and good luck to anyone racing today; it's a bit chilly out - our local half marathon is on as I type and I don't envy them.

    I've got no races planned for a while - probably will do a 60miler later this year on if circumstances allow; currently just ticking over after taking a rest from last year's 100miler.

    Half/full road marathon is something I'd like to have a crack at one year but all that on-road doesn't agree with me and I'm a miserable sod that doesn't enjoy running in crowds
    100 miler??? Is that a typo???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megatron View Post
    Haven't commented on this thread before - and good luck to anyone racing today; it's a bit chilly out - our local half marathon is on as I type and I don't envy them.

    I've got no races planned for a while - probably will do a 60miler later this year on if circumstances allow; currently just ticking over after taking a rest from last year's 100miler.

    Half/full road marathon is something I'd like to have a crack at one year but all that on-road doesn't agree with me and I'm a miserable sod that doesn't enjoy running in crowds
    For goodness sake don’t be embarrassed about that - that’s amazing. You should be rightly proud and feel able to share.

    If you’re worried people who ‘only’ do 10km, or 1/2Ms or marathons will think you weird, then don’t. I think most of us can’t even begin to imagine doing those sorts of races and would love to hear about what it takes to train for them. I’ve done 3 ultras so far, but they were short ultras :) - one was 36 miles (Two Oceans) and two of 56 miles (Comrades - one up and one down) and the thought of doing almost double those is just mind boggling. So you have my utmost respect. I do have a trail ultra coming up in August (Lakeland 60) and am looking forward to that. Training begins now - I’m a week post Manchester Marathon.

    I do prefer doing a fast (fast for me - I’m not that fast compared to a lot out there) 10km or 1/2M, as I like the sensation of speed. But there is definitely the thrill of managing to haul yourself around 56 or 90km that is enticing too - hence entering Lakeland 60km.

    I’m going to have to do a lot of reading about how to best train for this, but am really looking forward to the challenge. At the same time I don’t want to lose whatever speed I have, so a couple of sessions a week will be fast pace. 21 weeks to go - and I get a tingle of excitement when I think about it.

    Anyway I hope you post more. I enjoy hearing about the experiences of others - from people just starting their C25k journey, to preparing for ultras etc. We’re all runners - different types maybe (some road or trail etc) - and there’s always someone faster or slower than you. So I think it’s about testing yourself against yourself and just enjoying it.

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    Thanks - had a look at the Ambleside 60
    route; that's a really nice looking course, particularly round the Langdale Valley and there are some cheeky climbs in there but I'd be keen to hear what you think of it as it sounds like one to add to the list


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    Quote Originally Posted by Megatron View Post
    Thanks - had a look at the Ambleside 60
    route; that's a really nice looking course, particularly round the Langdale Valley and there are some cheeky climbs in there but I'd be keen to hear what you think of it as it sounds like one to add to the list


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    I’ll definitely report back afterwards :)

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    My first running injury, Iliotibial Band Syndrome?

    Hi, I wonder if anyone has had experience with resolving Iliotibial Band Syndrome? I think I have it!

    A bit of background, I am 41 and started my running career very late starting with the couch to 5k programme about 6 months ago. I am relatively fit, and 5'10 / 76kg, so no excess weight issues on my knees. I have had gait analysis and overpronate so picked up some Ultraboost ST; these have been great shoes.

    About 4 months ago I was doing 5k twice a week, I upped this to a 10k (Mondays with a group) and a 5k (midweek solo); I struggled to maintain the 5k so now just run 10k on a monday... I can still do it with reasonable ease but feel without the second run my improvements have plateaued.

    For the last 2 weeks I have experienced a twisting sensation in my knee, almost being able to picture a diagonal line of discomfort through the structure of my right knee...this knocks onto my hip, most likely due to me trying to correct whilst I run... having looked a run specific issues I think it matches Iliotibial Band Syndrome (https://www.runnersworld.com/uk/heal...w-to-fix-them/) Strangely I think the first event was agrivated by walking some distance prior to running in very hard soled formal shoes.

    Any experiences or advice?

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    I had ITB issues when I first started running. It’s generally caused by a lazy running action as you get tired as you build up.

    The good news is it is preventable in most cases. There are a few good YouTube videos on ITB stretches. Also a friend (premiership 1st team physio) had be doing side planks which worked a treat.

    Also on the longer runs concentrate on not wobbling left to right when tired.

    I am running an ultra marathon Saturday and previously had ITB issues at 10k when I started.

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    Having just re-read your symptoms ITB is very much outside of the knee. If it’s diagonally through the knee might be something else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chalet View Post
    I had ITB issues when I first started running. It’s generally caused by a lazy running action as you get tired as you build up.

    The good news is it is preventable in most cases. There are a few good YouTube videos on ITB stretches. Also a friend (premiership 1st team physio) had be doing side planks which worked a treat.

    Also on the longer runs concentrate on not wobbling left to right when tired.

    I am running an ultra marathon Saturday and previously had ITB issues at 10k when I started.
    Quote Originally Posted by Chalet View Post
    Having just re-read your symptoms ITB is very much outside of the knee. If it’s diagonally through the knee might be something else.
    Hi, thanks, its now 24 hours after my run and I am still in mild discomfort, there is definitely pressure sensitivity on the outside of the leg on the upper part of the joint.

    BAsed on your experience, if it is ITB it is pleasing to hear that if managed it is part of the journey rather than end of the road!

    Elsewhere I have been recommended a general knee health routine, which I will try to adopt https://strengthrunning.com/2011/02/...demonstration/

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    Nearly three years injury free, then hamstring problem Tuesday. Tried parkrun today, but after 1 of the three laps had to pull out. Worrying as off to Turkey on Saturday next week, and entered for the Bodrum 10k!! Ah well, have until the end of June to get fit and ready for the European Duathlons in Rumania.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrzej View Post
    Nearly three years injury free, then hamstring problem Tuesday. Tried parkrun today, but after 1 of the three laps had to pull out. Worrying as off to Turkey on Saturday next week, and entered for the Bodrum 10k!! Ah well, have until the end of June to get fit and ready for the European Duathlons in Rumania.
    Argh - sorry to hear that Andrzej. I hope it settles down quickly.

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    Legs have been playing up and Mrs P informed me my runners were new July ‘15.

    Went out yesterday to buy a pair of Ultra Boost ‘19’s but ended up with On’s new Cloudswift.

    First outing today and shaved 23 seconds off my Parkrun PB and importantly wow what a ride and fresh as heck afterwards.

    Well worth a look for a lightweight tarmac shoe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrzej View Post
    Nearly three years injury free, then hamstring problem Tuesday. Tried parkrun today, but after 1 of the three laps had to pull out. Worrying as off to Turkey on Saturday next week, and entered for the Bodrum 10k!! Ah well, have until the end of June to get fit and ready for the European Duathlons in Rumania.
    Ouch, fingers crossed for a quick recovery!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave E View Post
    Ouch, fingers crossed for a quick recovery!
    Thanks Dave - it isn't the end of the world, and should be sorted out soon. Shame, as I was starting to go well this year with quite a few PBs at different Parkruns, and rather more importantly really enjoying the running.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snoopdong View Post
    Hi, thanks, its now 24 hours after my run and I am still in mild discomfort, there is definitely pressure sensitivity on the outside of the leg on the upper part of the joint.

    BAsed on your experience, if it is ITB it is pleasing to hear that if managed it is part of the journey rather than end of the road!

    Elsewhere I have been recommended a general knee health routine, which I will try to adopt https://strengthrunning.com/2011/02/...demonstration/
    If it is ITB then my physio basically got me focused on hip strength and mobility as that’s a major contributor

    As others have said lots of good videos on YouTube - generally side planks, lunges focusing on opening up hips, goblet squats and so on are good

    Alongside this the one major thing that helped me get rid of it - rest

    It was so tough as I felt my fitness slip away but every time I tried pain was there until I took 3 weeks off completely

    I then built it up slowly at a slow pace - 5k twice, 7k twice, then 9k then 15k and had no pain in any of those

    Then I did some tempos - all OK. Then the big test - hill efforts and finally it felt fine

    As others have said mine was caused by fatigue and poor form - I ran a lot over Christmas and new year and looking back it was too much despite feeling OK at the time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snoopdong View Post
    Hi, thanks, its now 24 hours after my run and I am still in mild discomfort, there is definitely pressure sensitivity on the outside of the leg on the upper part of the joint.

    BAsed on your experience, if it is ITB it is pleasing to hear that if managed it is part of the journey rather than end of the road!

    Elsewhere I have been recommended a general knee health routine, which I will try to adopt https://strengthrunning.com/2011/02/...demonstration/
    How is your knee now, Snoop?

    I took two weeks off, a few short treadmill runs this week with no pain, now hobbling and cussing in equal measure after this morning's Parkrun. Bah.

    I have been doing the exercises on your link though (many thanks) - you seeing any improvement?

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    Cape Town ultra marathon done. Killer hills meant I only made my pledge time of under 6 hours as opposed to the target of 5.5.

    Feeling better than expected today!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chalet View Post
    Cape Town ultra marathon done. Killer hills meant I only made my pledge time of under 6 hours as opposed to the target of 5.5.

    Feeling better than expected today!
    Well done, climbs will definitely take time away from you like nothing else - what was the weather like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megatron View Post
    Well done, climbs will definitely take time away from you like nothing else - what was the weather like?
    It was about 20c. I’d done most of my training in the UK this Winter so was delighted when it pissed it down about an hour in! Once it dried out it was a little bit warm for my liking but not oppressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chalet View Post
    Cape Town ultra marathon done. Killer hills meant I only made my pledge time of under 6 hours as opposed to the target of 5.5.

    Feeling better than expected today!
    Blimey…. Sounds brutal…. Good work!

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    Just cracked 25min 5k for a new PB.





    24:42 for 5k is nothing on the scale of some of the runners here - but as a relative newbie I’m quite (a lot) pleased with that.

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    Congrats - you can't do better than a PB and I don't doubt those times will keep coming down!

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    Quote Originally Posted by zelig View Post
    Just cracked 25min 5k for a new PB.





    24:42 for 5k is nothing on the scale of some of the runners here - but as a relative newbie I’m quite (a lot) pleased with that.

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    Congrats buddy.

    I did the same at Lowestoft Parkrun last Saturday, now to chase sub 24.

    Been an excellent journey so far this year.

    Cheers again for the TZRC

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    Managed to get into the 21’s this week at parkrun for the first time. Got new shoes 4 weeks ago and ran 4 pb’s since. Guess I didn’t realise what a difference good shoes make, I’ve never had trainers over £20 till now.

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    So I've been on a weight loss crusade and am down to 109 kilos from 134 kilos in Jan. Still another 12 or so to lose. Booked myself onto the Chiang Mai half marathon in December. Never done more than a 5k before so would like advice on what training to do. It will be pretty hot and mountainous as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    So I've been on a weight loss crusade and am down to 109 kilos from 134 kilos in Jan. Still another 12 or so to lose. Booked myself onto the Chiang Mai half marathon in December. Never done more than a 5k before so would like advice on what training to do. It will be pretty hot and mountainous as well.

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    Can't give any advice but good luck Ryan. Sounds like an amazing challenge

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    So I've been on a weight loss crusade and am down to 109 kilos from 134 kilos in Jan. Still another 12 or so to lose. Booked myself onto the Chiang Mai half marathon in December. Never done more than a 5k before so would like advice on what training to do. It will be pretty hot and mountainous as well.

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    Can't give any advice but good luck Ryan. Sounds like an amazing challenge

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    So I've been on a weight loss crusade and am down to 109 kilos from 134 kilos in Jan. Still another 12 or so to lose. Booked myself onto the Chiang Mai half marathon in December. Never done more than a 5k before so would like advice on what training to do. It will be pretty hot and mountainous as well.

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    That's impressive weight loss Ryan! There are quite a few good apps out there to build up to that distance; and most running magazines have plans for doing just that too. My only advice would be to slowly increase your distance; you will have to condition your body to getting used to the load going through it so aches and pains are inevitable along the way. I like Strava (you can adjust the privacy settings so only you can see your activities) and find it useful to track my progress and speed and the segments also give me a little motivation to push and compete against myself.

    Core strength training also helps me massively (squats, deadlifts, lunges) and if it's hilly then this will give you strength and power on the way up and help absorb the load on the way down. Hill reps are also worth incorporating into your training if possible.

    Good luck with it and keep us posted - I'd love to hear how you get on training for it!

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    Managed to get my first sub-30min 5k this morning!

    My greatest running achievement so far since starting C25K last May..Not bad for a fat lad from St. Helens!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by goregasm View Post
    Managed to get my first sub-30min 5k this morning!

    My greatest running achievement so far since starting C25K last May..Not bad for a fat lad from St. Helens!!
    Nice work. The C25k is one of the best things I’ve done for my fitness - really great program that gradually ups the target but in an achievable way.

    And I find It’s important (& very satisfying) setting & hitting these follow on milestones. Initially, I upped the distance, but latterly I’ve been upping the pace.

    Not sure which is better - but it was just a target to aim for in both cases.

    z

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    First run today after an injury at the beginning of April. 28:42 5K which I’m happy with given the time off and the fact I’m not 100% fit.

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    Local 10k in 47:41 today. Pleased with that as I haven’t trained for shorter distances.

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    Had a mad 4 days in Benidorm,ran 6.5k this afternoon,the most I’ve ever ran ,my first triathlon (half) is only 3 weeks away,it’s gonna be tough


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