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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    Interestingly it is likely that the 5th place finisher in the PL next season will qualify for the following season's Champions League as a result of changes being implemented by UEFA.

    Basically the 2 leagues with the best coefficient in the previous season's European competition get an extra place for the following season's CL. If the changes were happening for next season's CL (they aren't, they will be in place for the 2024/2025 CL) then England and Italy would get the extra space.

    It is likely that PL sides will do well next season with a good chance of being in the top 2.
    Yeh
    It's UEFA saying that the 2 leagues with the most finance shall be awarded another place on top of the extra ones they already receive

    The Sheikhs need to claw back some of that outlay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Space Traveller View Post
    City buying Rice would be just another example of them buying a player they don’t really need to stop him improving a potential rival. The sooner the cheating tw@ts get banned, the better.
    By the way, could you furnish us with the last player City signed to stop a rival getting them ?
    Go on, just one .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Space Traveller View Post
    City buying Rice would be just another example of them buying a player they don’t really need to stop him improving a potential rival. The sooner the cheating tw@ts get banned, the better.
    Really?!

    Groan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hood View Post
    Yeh
    It's UEFA saying that the 2 leagues with the most finance shall be awarded another place on top of the extra ones they already receive

    The Sheikhs need to claw back some of that outlay.

    Have to say, I had no idea UEFA was run from the Middle East!!

    https://backpagefootball.com/when-di...usiness/70376/

    “In 1993, for the first time since the competition was started, UEFA tweaked the format for the European Cup, renaming it the European Champions League. Pressure was growing from the elite European clubs on the European governing body to allow more than one competitor from each country to enter the competition.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by David_D View Post
    Have to say, I had no idea UEFA was run from the Middle East!!

    https://backpagefootball.com/when-di...usiness/70376/

    “In 1993, for the first time since the competition was started, UEFA tweaked the format for the European Cup, renaming it the European Champions League. Pressure was growing from the elite European clubs on the European governing body to allow more than one competitor from each country to enter the competition.”
    Need to really rename it though
    "Champions League!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegoat View Post
    By the way, could you furnish us with the last player City signed to stop a rival getting them ?
    Go on, just one .
    You offered Sterling a King's ransom to drag him from Liverpool
    That was integral in the early financial doping

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hood View Post
    You offered Sterling a King's ransom to drag him from Liverpool
    That was integral in the early financial doping
    I can’t recall. Was it an official approach to the player or were there suggestions of “tapping up”?

    https://www.theguardian.com/football...irgil-van-dijk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hood View Post
    You offered Sterling a King's ransom to drag him from Liverpool
    That was integral in the early financial doping
    Your joking right?

    Sterling wanted to leave Liverpool and given the choice between being managed by Pep or being managed by Brendan Rogers thats pretty much a no brainer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robert75 View Post
    Your joking right?

    Sterling wanted to leave Liverpool and given the choice between being managed by Pep or being managed by Brendan Rogers thats pretty much a no brainer.
    Lol
    will we get the Liverpool fans on who saw Sterling develop at Liverpool and then leave for money.
    What about Suarez-Did Rodgers mess up his career?
    What a fud u are.
    Does Rodger's return to Celtic worry that your precious Rangers are in trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robert75 View Post
    I’m a Liverpool supporter you deluded Rangers obsessed clown.
    Is this denial along the same lines as you saying the Saudi's were not a terrorist state when you had your arse handed to you a few days ago.
    Surprised you came back so soon tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hood View Post
    Is this denial along the same lines as you saying the Saudi's were not a terrorist state when you had your arse handed to you a few days ago.
    Surprised you came back so soon tbh.
    Nice attempt at deflection but show me where Saudi Arabia has been declared a terrorist state and by which nations.

    Not where someone claims to speak for all using the royal “we” or someone who is desperate to drum up support for themselves to deflect from the fact they have no idea what they are on about, have an unhealthy obsession with a rival club (that would be you)

    I know this may be hard for you to grasp but I (and if you care to look at this thread quite a few people) couldn’t care less about Celtic no matter how much you try and shoe horn them into the conversation.

    Rogers was a former Liverpool manager, Sterling was a former Liverpool player. I know it’s a tough one to grasp but neither of these things have anything to do with Celtic (or Saudi Arabia for that matter)

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    Quote Originally Posted by robert75 View Post
    Nice attempt at deflection but show me where Saudi Arabia has been declared a terrorist state and by which nations.

    Not where someone claims to speak for all using the royal “we” or someone who is desperate to drum up support for themselves to deflect from the fact they have no idea what they are on about, have an unhealthy obsession with a rival club (that would be you)

    I know this may be hard for you to grasp but I (and if you care to look at this thread quite a few people) couldn’t care less about Celtic no matter how much you try and shoe horn them into the conversation.

    Rogers was a former Liverpool manager, Sterling was a former Liverpool player. I know it’s a tough one to grasp but neither of these things have anything to do with Celtic (or Saudi Arabia for that matter)
    FFS
    Pretty sure it was demonstrated to you before that the Saudis had performed an extra judicial execution of the journalist Jamal Khashoggi
    in Istanbul.
    That's the same shit that Putin has carried out in the UK.
    Are you ok with this?
    What are you defining as a terrorist state?
    Last edited by Hood; 18th June 2023 at 03:50.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Space Traveller View Post
    City buying Rice would be just another example of them buying a player they don’t really need to stop him improving a potential rival. The sooner the cheating tw@ts get banned, the better.
    To be fair that’s Chelsea, not City.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hood View Post
    Need to really rename it though
    "Champions League!"
    Lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robert75 View Post
    Your joking right?

    Sterling wanted to leave Liverpool and given the choice between being managed by Pep or being managed by Brendan Rogers thats pretty much a no brainer.
    Oh yeh
    Think Sterling signed for Pellegrini and not Pep
    Liverpool supporter my arse

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hood View Post
    You offered Sterling a King's ransom to drag him from Liverpool
    That was integral in the early financial doping
    Drag him from Liverpool ?
    Nope , Sterling wanted to leave Liverpool . Both United and Chelsea submitted bids but he wanted City . His wages doubled (I think) from what Liverpool were offering but this is a regular occurrence, no ? Sterling acted professionally throughout the transfer saga and helped Liverpool get a significant fee .

    Integral in the early financial doping ??
    What does this actually mean ? It makes no sense whatsoever .
    City pay Liverpool £49 million and that’s financial doping ?
    Last edited by thegoat; 18th June 2023 at 07:22.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hood View Post
    Lol
    will we get the Liverpool fans on who saw Sterling develop at Liverpool and then leave for money.
    What about Suarez-Did Rodgers mess up his career?
    What a fud u are.
    Does Rodger's return to Celtic worry that your precious Rangers are in trouble.
    LOL
    Will we get the Watford fans on who saw Sterling develop at Watford and then leave for money etc etc .

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    Quote Originally Posted by robert75 View Post
    Nice attempt at deflection but show me where Saudi Arabia has been declared a terrorist state and by which nations.
    “The circumstances of Mr Khashoggi’s death have led to numerous theories and allegations, but none alters the responsibility of the Saudi Arabia State. Saudi state agents, 15 of them, acted under cover of their official status and used state means to execute Mr. Khashoggi. His killing was the result of elaborate planning involving extensive coordination and significant human and financial resources. It was overseen, planned and endorsed by high-level officials. It was premeditated.”
    Agnes Callamard, UN Special Rapporteur on extrajudicial, summary or arbitrary killings


    The EU "condemns the Saudi authorities’ ongoing harassment of human rights defenders, activist lawyers, journalists, clerics, writers and bloggers both within and outside the country, which undermines the credibility of the reform process in Saudi Arabia; insists that the Saudi authorities take the necessary steps to allow everyone to exercise their rights freely without any judicial harassment or any other reprisals, such as threats to their families; calls on the Saudi authorities to immediately and unconditionally release all human rights defenders and other prisoners of conscience detained and sentenced for merely exercising their right to freedom of expression and carrying out their peaceful human rights work."

    US report ODNI: We assess that Saudi Arabia's Crown Prince Muhammad bin Salman approved an operation in Istanbul, Turkey to capture or kill Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi. We base this assessment on the Crown Prince's control of decisionmaking in the Kingdom, the direct involvement of a key adviser and members of Muhammad bin Salman's protective detail in the operation, and the Crown Prince's support for using violent measures to silence dissidents abroad, including Khashoggi. Since 2017, the Crown Prince has had absolute control of the Kingdom's security and intelligence organizations, making it highly unlikely that Saudi officials would have carried out an operation of this nature without the Crown Prince's authorization.

    US State Department: To start, the U.S. Department of State has taken action pursuant to the Khashoggi Ban to impose visa restrictions on 76 Saudi individuals believed to have been engaged in threatening dissidents overseas, including but not limited to the Khashoggi killing.
    Someone who lies about the little things will lie about the big things too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hood View Post
    Oh yeh
    Think Sterling signed for Pellegrini and not Pep
    Liverpool supporter my arse
    You sit up until 4am on Wikipedia to find that one out?

    Two things,

    One neither of them are Liverpool managers so I couldn’t care less.

    Two, both are better then Rogers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hood View Post
    FFS
    Pretty sure it was demonstrated to you before that the Saudis had performed an extra judicial execution of the journalist Jamal Khashoggi
    in Istanbul.
    That's the same s*** that Putin has carried out in the UK.
    Are you ok with this?
    What are you defining as a terrorist state?
    I will ask you again, show me where Saudi Arabia have been designated as a terrorist state and by who, not “Your opinion” that’s irrelevant.

    I edited out your swearing (you know G&D rules) now bringing Russia into it I see (but this is not politics right? G&D)

    You will be saying Putin and the Saudi royal family are all Rangers fans next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    “The circumstances of Mr Khashoggi’s death have led to numerous theories and allegations, but none alters the responsibility of the Saudi Arabia State. Saudi state agents, 15 of them, acted under cover of their official status and used state means to execute Mr. Khashoggi. His killing was the result of elaborate planning involving extensive coordination and significant human and financial resources. It was overseen, planned and endorsed by high-level officials. It was premeditated.”
    Agnes Callamard, UN Special Rapporteur on extrajudicial, summary or arbitrary killings


    The EU "condemns the Saudi authorities’ ongoing harassment of human rights defenders, activist lawyers, journalists, clerics, writers and bloggers both within and outside the country, which undermines the credibility of the reform process in Saudi Arabia; insists that the Saudi authorities take the necessary steps to allow everyone to exercise their rights freely without any judicial harassment or any other reprisals, such as threats to their families; calls on the Saudi authorities to immediately and unconditionally release all human rights defenders and other prisoners of conscience detained and sentenced for merely exercising their right to freedom of expression and carrying out their peaceful human rights work."

    US report ODNI: We assess that Saudi Arabia's Crown Prince Muhammad bin Salman approved an operation in Istanbul, Turkey to capture or kill Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi. We base this assessment on the Crown Prince's control of decisionmaking in the Kingdom, the direct involvement of a key adviser and members of Muhammad bin Salman's protective detail in the operation, and the Crown Prince's support for using violent measures to silence dissidents abroad, including Khashoggi. Since 2017, the Crown Prince has had absolute control of the Kingdom's security and intelligence organizations, making it highly unlikely that Saudi officials would have carried out an operation of this nature without the Crown Prince's authorization.

    US State Department: To start, the U.S. Department of State has taken action pursuant to the Khashoggi Ban to impose visa restrictions on 76 Saudi individuals believed to have been engaged in threatening dissidents overseas, including but not limited to the Khashoggi killing.
    And nowhere does it say they are a terrorist state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegoat View Post
    Drag him from Liverpool ?
    Nope , Sterling wanted to leave Liverpool . Both United and Chelsea submitted bids but he wanted City . His wages doubled (I think) from what Liverpool were offering but this is a regular occurrence, no ? Sterling acted professionally throughout the transfer saga and helped Liverpool get a significant fee .

    Integral in the early financial doping ??
    What does this actually mean ? It makes no sense whatsoever .
    City pay Liverpool £49 million and that’s financial doping ?
    There is not a single Liverpool fan out there who didnt know he wanted to leave. Former Liverpool players trying to convince him to stay, Rogers doing everything to convince him to stay, it was in the papers nearly every day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robert75 View Post
    There is not a single Liverpool fan out there who didnt know he wanted to leave. Former Liverpool players trying to convince him to stay, Rogers doing everything to convince him to stay, it was in the papers nearly every day.
    Wait until we put a bid in for Salah ;)
    You’ll obviously know a lot more about the Liverpool side of the deal but I think I recall the animosity stemmed from his agent at the time .
    I don’t recall Raheem actually making noises or demanding to be let go, ( thinking on, didn’t he ask not to go on the pre season tour?) behaving quite well throughout. I think his decision was borne out by the trophies he did win even though he missed out on the Chumps League.
    I know the media went to town on him and quite frankly some of the abuse dished out to him at 90% of football grounds afterwards because of this coverage was shocking.
    Luckily for Raheem , City went and bought Grealish to take the abuse instead.
    Anyway, Im still trying to come up with a player that City took from a rival to make them weaker , but doesn’t feature for the team .

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    Quote Originally Posted by robert75 View Post
    And nowhere does it say they are a terrorist state.
    Tru dat, I wonder why they all stop short of saying so?

    Just like Teresa May, who refused to publish the report that identified Saudi Arabia as a prolific sponsor of international Islamist terrorism - coincidently only a few weeks after she received honours from their king.


    Or the US, where then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton called Saudi Arabia "a critical source of terrorist funding", yet the Obama administration - just like their predecessors and successors - stopped short of adding them to the State Department list of State Sponsors of Terrorism.
    Someone who lies about the little things will lie about the big things too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robert75 View Post
    You sit up until 4am on Wikipedia to find that one out?

    Two things,

    One neither of them are Liverpool managers so I couldn’t care less.

    Two, both are better then Rogers.
    Nope
    Was up watching US open golf
    Just thought as a Liverpool fan you'd have known who had bought him.
    Also thought you'd know how to spell your ex managers name.

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    I can’t remember if Sterling wanted to leave or not.

    I remember thinking the 45m was great money for him though. I was never a fan of his thought he was often very poor.

    I also despised the fact he couldn’t strike a ball properly and often just over ran it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan Drago View Post
    I can’t remember if Sterling wanted to leave or not.

    I remember thinking the 45m was great money for him though. I was never a fan of his thought he was often very poor.

    I also despised the fact he couldn’t strike a ball properly and often just over ran it.


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    Sterling always has and always will divide opinion.
    His ability shouldn’t be in doubt but he does make poor decisions at times . In his time at City it never cost us as there were always other chances to come . He did miss a few but he never ever went into hiding . His attitude was always spot on . He will give the same effort for Chelsea and I truly hope it works out for him there too.
    The abuse he got all over the country was sickening , culminating in the physical assault outside Citys training ground by a halfwit. It is to Raheems testimony that he actually played in a game a couple of hours after the attack.
    He will always get my backing as a great footballer and a bloody good human being .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hood View Post
    Nope
    Was up watching US open golf
    Just thought as a Liverpool fan you'd have known who had bought him.
    Also thought you'd know how to spell your ex managers name.
    Nope, couldnt care less who bought him but both of them better managers than Rodgers.

    Dont care how to spell his name either as he was a dreadful manager.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robert75 View Post

    Dont care how to spell his name either as he was a dreadful manager.
    Aww
    He could have been a hero if not for Slippy G

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    Sick of watching knock out games and finals ending 0-0 followed by a pointless extra time and ends with penalties.

    Why not cut all the shit and just start the game with penalties. Less injuries, crowd would be home earlier, more exciting.

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    Seems like Arsenal will sell Xhaka, Partey, Balogun, Smith-Rowe, Tierney, Sambi Lokonga, Pepe and Holding. Expected fees raised from those players around £180m.

    Seems like the Rice and Havertz deals are close, they are looking at Romeo Lavia from Southampton and Camavinga from Real Madrid as well. An approach was apparently made to Bayern for Jamal Musiala but Bayern were not keen to sell. Still interest in Caicedo despite some media reports to the contrary.

    PSG approached Arteta re the managerial vacancy as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hood View Post
    Aww
    He could have been a hero if not for Slippy G
    Well he wasnt so nobody really cares.

    By the way, have you found the answer to the question I asked?

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    Quote Originally Posted by robert75 View Post
    Well he wasnt so nobody really cares.

    By the way, have you found the answer to the question I asked?
    What part of the extrajudicial execution of Khashoggi or the funding of Al Qaeda by the Saudis would you reckon does not qualify for term.
    Why do you defend them?

    I'm out on this now as we are stinking the place out with politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hood View Post
    What part of the extrajudicial execution of Khashoggi or the funding of Al Qaeda by the Saudis would you reckon does not qualify for term.
    Why do you defend them?

    I'm out on this now as we are stinking the place out with politics.
    Would be more constructive if you just admit you don’t know what you are on about and we’re just using a man’s death to score points.

    I did say right from the start to avoid politics but you did insist upon it.

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    By the way, could you furnish us with the last player City signed to stop a rival getting them ?
    Go on, just one .
    Kalvin Phillips

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    Quote Originally Posted by Space Traveller View Post
    Kalvin Phillips
    Jesus .
    Righto , who else was in for him ? He was brought in to work alongside /complement Rodri at the base of the midfield .
    Pep brought him in with a specific sharing role in mind . He wasn’t to know that Phillips would be injured early on in his City career . He then saw his arse when the player came back from the World Cup overweight . He’s been on and off the bench in fits and starts for a reason . The drop off from Rodri was huge at the minute and to take a chance on Phillips at the time would’ve been suicidal . Pep has come out numerous times to give Kalvin his backing and support him if he wants to stay next season ( which Phillips does , apparently)
    He will be given more chances next season .
    I hope this answers your question but feel free to offer another player the cheating t@@ts have taken to stop other teams strengthening.
    Especially after we weakened Arsenal by selling them Jesus and Zinchenko and Chelsea with Sterling .

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegoat View Post
    Jesus .
    Righto , who else was in for him ? He was brought in to work alongside /complement Rodri at the base of the midfield .
    Pep brought him in with a specific sharing role in mind . He wasn’t to know that Phillips would be injured early on in his City career . He then saw his arse when the player came back from the World Cup overweight . He’s been on and off the bench in fits and starts for a reason . The drop off from Rodri was huge at the minute and to take a chance on Phillips at the time would’ve been suicidal . Pep has come out numerous times to give Kalvin his backing and support him if he wants to stay next season ( which Phillips does , apparently)
    He will be given more chances next season .
    I hope this answers your question but feel free to offer another player the cheating t@@ts have taken to stop other teams strengthening.
    Especially after we weakened Arsenal by selling them Jesus and Zinchenko and Chelsea with Sterling .

    To be fair you weakened Arsenal by pumping us 4-1 at the Etihad. Would have won the league otherwise.

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    Brendan Rodgers confirmed back at Celtic
    Would have preferred to keep Ange but happy with Rodgers .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hood View Post
    Brendan Rodgers confirmed back at Celtic
    Would have preferred to keep Ange but happy with Rodgers .
    I’d have been happy with Kjetil Knutsen, manager of FK Bodo Glimt. But hey ho, in Brendan we trust. And it seems that Dermot Desmond is prepared to ease the purse strings to keep Brendan happy.

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    Well it didn't take long for this new 2023/2024 thread to turn into a bitching fest.

    Would it really be that hard for grown men to keep it to footballing matters and less blatant tribal outbursts.

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    Gary O'Neil sacked by Bournemouth.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65951241

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokey99 View Post
    Well it didn't take long for this new 2023/2024 thread to turn into a bitching fest.

    Would it really be that hard for grown men to keep it to footballing matters and less blatant tribal outbursts.
    Agreed

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    Quote Originally Posted by cbh View Post
    Gary O'Neil sacked by Bournemouth.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65951241

    A truly bizarre decision.

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    A truly bizarre decision.
    Unless they have a top replacement it is very bizarre. Maybe they fell out

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    Replaced by Andoni Iraola, what's the betting O'Neils back by the New Year.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65954183

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    Seems like Arsenal will sell Xhaka, Partey, Balogun, Smith-Rowe, Tierney, Sambi Lokonga, Pepe and Holding. Expected fees raised from those players around £180m.

    Seems like the Rice and Havertz deals are close, they are looking at Romeo Lavia from Southampton and Camavinga from Real Madrid as well. An approach was apparently made to Bayern for Jamal Musiala but Bayern were not keen to sell. Still interest in Caicedo despite some media reports to the contrary.

    PSG approached Arteta re the managerial vacancy as well.
    Come on Ryan why on earth would Camavinga for to Arsenal ?????

    Arsenal haven’t signed a top player for about 25 years.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan Drago View Post
    Come on Ryan why on earth would Camavinga for to Arsenal ?????

    Arsenal haven’t signed a top player for about 25 years.


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    I hear on the grapevine Madrid have just signed an elite young midfielder and Camavinga is now surplus to requirements. Nothing in the news of course.....

    Pretty sure Ozil and Aubameyang were top players when they signed btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cbh View Post
    Replaced by Andoni Iraola, what's the betting O'Neils back by the New Year.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65954183

    Shameful. O'Neill did an amazing job with what looked like nailed on relegation fodder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    I hear on the grapevine Madrid have just signed an elite young midfielder and Camavinga is now surplus to requirements. Nothing in the news of course.....

    Pretty sure Ozil and Aubameyang were top players when they signed btw.
    I like reading the transfer rumours but seriously that is all they are RUMOURS and paper talk, some will have some truth but there is a lot of click bait out there..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    Seems like Arsenal will sell Xhaka, Partey, Balogun, Smith-Rowe, Tierney, Sambi Lokonga, Pepe and Holding. Expected fees raised from those players around £180m.

    Seems like the Rice and Havertz deals are close, they are looking at Romeo Lavia from Southampton and Camavinga from Real Madrid as well. An approach was apparently made to Bayern for Jamal Musiala but Bayern were not keen to sell. Still interest in Caicedo despite some media reports to the contrary.

    PSG approached Arteta re the managerial vacancy as well.
    Camavinga? Hilarious

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