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Have all those posts above gone into loads of detail…when the OP is maybe looking for a £30 a year solution where you pay someone you’ve never met via Paypal?
There’s Firesticks and then there’s Firesticks!
The “fully loaded” type has the full Sky package, and about 20000 other channels from around the world. Plus 3pm kick offs, usually some VOD content (box sets, movies) and all the PPV stuff
The Sky stuff is pirate I assume, I’m unsure about the other channels if they’re free to air somewhere else (not UK)
Christ knows. I don’t have one but plenty of people seem to.
My Football Clubs Twitter feed is full of replies where fans have uploaded recordings of their TVs showing the 3pm KO.
I don’t really watch films, I go to most of our matches and the internet is full of free porn, I’d rather not take the risk.
What does kill me however is people running these things off Sky Broadband. 🤣
The lowest 12 month subscription I heard someone said they paid was £20 and highest was £90 all boasting they are the best and no buffering.
I've had a subscription before, I paid with PayPal and Bank Transfer and as far as I know no unauthorised theft from my accounts. I used the Now box (does not work anymore), Roku box and Firestick, all 3 worked very well, sometimes there was buffering. Any issues or requests go via Texts, Messenger, Telegram or WhatsApp, I was told I didn't need a VPN and as far as I know I never had any issues with my ISP.
There are free apps you can download or go via the KODI route to get VoD Films/TV series, Live TV channels (domestic & international), 3pm KO's, etc... but it is suggested that you use a VPN with these apps.
Don’t be daft.
There’s millions of fire sticks and mag boxes being used across the UK.
The risk is nil for being charged with any offence.
The only risk is to the actual streamers who provide the service.
You also don’t need to use a VPN.
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Ha please there’s never been an arrest for someone using a fire stick or mag box in their home.
They’ve been running those stories for 10 years. Are the police going to start knocking on doors and having a signed warrant to enter your home to check for a fire stick ?
The police can’t even come to your home if it’s been ransacked.
As I said earlier there are tens of millions of fire stick and mag box users in the UK.
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Exactly, you want your channels, pay the going price & don’t be a freeloading parasite. I pay for the whole lot with Sky, broadband through Virgin for the speed, plus Prime, Netflix & Disney, feel I get excellent VFM from the enjoyment I get.
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Couldn't care less if someone has a hooky firestick
Know lots of folks with them from all walks of life.
I pay for sky sports,lionsgate,netlix,paramount,apple+,disney + and whatever else.
Do I think my subscription costs would decrease if everyone was paying? Not a chance.
These devices are much more prevalent now.
What was once perhaps just a few people down the pub and tech savvy youngsters has now spread to all parts of society.
In my opinion this started during lockdown with people having to make cuts to there finances and has increased due to the cost of living crisis.
When people are struggling financially they are not going to spend £1k plus on tv subscriptions.
I don't have a problem with it, it's easy to sit on your high horse and call it theft, but if you are trying to make your families life a bit better in hard times is that so bad ?
As regards to being prosecuted you have more chance of a visit from the police for telling a joke.
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Hard to say isn’t it, if it’s as endemic as some on here are claiming, then the lost revenue is hardly going to keep subscription prices down is it?
Illegal streamers are effectively stealing from everybody else, even before you consider where the money they’re paying for such devices goes and what it might support.
It’s pretty sad that people see it as a ‘victimless crime’, and think that content creation doesn’t support real jobs and real people.
I think they see it as victimless as the ones that loose out are global corporations, as someone said a few posts ago very similar to the fakes, when you can pick up a set of Nike trainers or a Canada goose jacket for a few quid the temptation is there to save a fortune.
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I certainly wouldn't have one as I am not interested (Wife and Daughter swap between Netflix, Disney and Now on a yearly basis to catch up on whatever it is they watch on one that isn't on the others while subscribing to just one) but I can pretty much guarantee that any increase would be because they can get away with it and not because of illegal streaming. In fact, I think they are probably sacrificing part of their profits as we discuss this to find a way to stop it, as this would be a very fruitful investment.
However, I am sure they would use pirating as an excuse for their next price increase without batting an eyelid.
'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.
Thought I’d visit this thread again seeing as I’d asked the question.
The reason I want to try and find an alternative to sky is the fact that I’ve been with them for many many years but you’ll still get a better deal if you’re a new customer, ( hence why I’ve just started a new contract as the old one was in my partner’s name ).
Then even before I’ve paid the first months bill they’ve increased their prices, ( the contract does say they can do this once in 12 months ), but come on guys.
I phoned them up to question this and they weren’t interested in discounting anything to offset this.
Perhaps next time I’ll look at their streaming service as well as the Firestick option to compare as apparently it’s cheaper
I’m not going to comment as to the rights and wrongs of using a Firestick from a third party as everyone is different and circumstances sometimes dictate what you do.
What I will say though is I didn’t know there were so many law abiding citizens around, I’m obviously driving on the wrongs roads as I very rarely see people sticking to the speed limits etc, especially on the motorway, do 70 and you’ve got Eddie stobart up your rear end🙈🙈😂👍
In theory, you could pay someone £80 a year, you don't need a fire stick as it could (again in theory) run off any TV with a android system once you can get the google play store to download the program. If not the Nvida shield is way better than a firestick to stop buffering issues, or there are cheaper options.
You would get a telegram app group for any issues and trouble shooting, and it would have every channel, all football, PPV, live channels, recent movies, box sets etc. I would also run a VPN, if you went down this route. Lots of these groups around that keep it all up and running so you don't need to do any of the work yourself.
There has been a few arrests recently for the people selling the pre-loaded fire sticks.
I believe the police are activity trying to catch the suppliers, over individual users.
Dodgy sticks are available near enough everywhere, locally they're around £130 to buy and then about £35.00 yearly for software updates (basically all streaming channels are free) rightly or wrongly I associate them not paying the TV licence in other words 'theft', don't get me wrong I can understand the appeal but don't condone them as that's like condoning buying a stolen watch or wearing fakes.
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I can’t see the point of having a non legal stick if it’s going to play up or fail possibly, can’t really compare that against what I’ve already got, which is the point of the exercise.