San Martin vs Rolex

[oldoakknives]

Possibly true, E&OE, but I will have had to be ritually humiliated by some jumped-up little turd in an off-the-peg designer suit, be kept waiting for an indefinite length of time, tolerate being patronised by a different jumped-up turd should they decide to honour me by selling me a wristwatch, endure owning a watch I don't like and which I'm afraid to wear for fear of both getting stabbed and devaluing it, and then hope to sell it without it being stolen on its way to someone who may or may-not be a scammer...

It seems simpler, less degrading, and entirely more fun to accept that Owning Things comes at a cost, and thus to buy somehting I actually like

You must be using the wrong AD if that's the way they treat you. Either that or something causes them to act that way. The AD I use is really nice, the sales people are both pleasant and knowledgable, and try to help even a pauper like me to obtain some of the sought after models. Even sent a watch back under warranty which was borderline whether or not I had caused the fault (crown threads damaged) which Rolex honoured.

Never had to buy a watch I didn't like either. I do wear previous purchases when visiting them so they do know I'm not flipping them which perhaps counts for something.
As for being afraid to wear them, the only place I've ever felt that way is in London, when passing through and staying overnight for an early start on Eurostar. Out for a meal and a couple of crafty pints and the beater comes out until we're boarded the next morning.

[Daddelvirks]

Wow, just wow.

[earlofsodbury]

Wow, just wow.

Indeed

[oldoakknives]

Wow, just wow.

Indeed

Is it so outrageous to get good service by pleasant people in a shop these days?

[adrianw]

Is it so outrageous to get good service by pleasant people in a shop these days?

You've obviously never tried to buy a Rolex from Goldsmiths in Chelmsford, the description was perfect

[oldoakknives]

You've obviously never tried to buy a Rolex from Goldsmiths in Chelmsford, the description was perfect

Correct, never been to Chelmsford.

As I said in my earlier post.

You must be using the wrong AD if that's the way they treat you...................

[SteveDSSD]

You've obviously never tried to buy a Rolex from Goldsmiths in Chelmsford, the description was perfect

I can confirm that it is indeed a perfect description of the Goldsmiths Chelmsford Rolex experience. To be fair it is not just for Rolex, they can be equally wonderful when it comes to purchasing an Omega rubber strap.

[oldoakknives]

I can confirm that it is indeed a perfect description of the Goldsmiths Chelmsford Rolex experience. To be fair it is not just for Rolex, they can be equally wonderful when it comes to purchasing an Omega rubber strap.

So perhaps just a shop with poor staff attitudes then.
Maybe if people pointed it out to the management things might improve, although sometimes these attitudes are passed down the management ladder.

[Wallasey Runner]

I had an old Steinhart that gained one sec in two weeks, out performed any Rolex I’ve ever owned. I still maintain it’s a fools game buying an automatic watch and expecting perfection, it ain’t going to happen, buy a bloody G Shock if your life evolves around obsessing about a sec or two here and there.

Life’s to short, or is that too long if it’s running slow.

[oldoakknives]

I had an old Steinhart that gained one sec in two weeks, out performed any Rolex I’ve ever owned. I still maintain it’s a fools game buying an automatic watch and expecting perfection, it ain’t going to happen, buy a bloody G Shock if your life evolves around obsessing about a sec or two here and there.

Life’s to short, or is that too long if it’s running slow.

I have many watches, mostly mechanical, some quartz, and I couldn’t tell you how many seconds fast or slow any of them are.
They tell the time close enough for me so all is good.
I am interested how others see it though.

[earlofsodbury]

I had an old Steinhart that gained one sec in two weeks, out performed any Rolex I’ve ever owned. I still maintain it’s a fools game buying an automatic watch and expecting perfection, it ain’t going to happen, buy a bloody G Shock if your life evolves around obsessing about a sec or two here and there. ...

Agree on all points - this:



Cost £90 or so brand new (with discounts!), and has lost one second in every two days since it arrived back in Feb. I have quartz watches (admittedly not my G-Shock) that do worse.

None of this would matter a rats arse were it not for the ludicrous hyperbole from Rolex and their obsessive cultists who insist there is simply no better watch. Even that wouldn't matter if it wasn't such an insult to the intelligence of all of us...

[wileeeeeey]

Timekeeping on a Rolex doesn’t matter anymore. You can tell this by looking at the Tudor range with three METAS certified watches (including one GMT) and Rolex with zero.

But Tudor is there to compete with Omega so that Rolex doesn’t have to anymore.

[Passenger]

I had an old Steinhart that gained one sec in two weeks, out performed any Rolex I’ve ever owned. I still maintain it’s a fools game buying an automatic watch and expecting perfection, it ain’t going to happen, buy a bloody G Shock if your life evolves around obsessing about a sec or two here and there.

Life’s to short, or is that too long if it’s running slow.

True re a life not really hinging on a few seconds here or there...heck some days I don´t need to know the date or day... However Rolex sell these watches with all manner of superlatives including about their ACCURATE time keeping...seems a bit of a swizz that their new movement appears to have pronounced tendency to run slow and the more so when it´s worn daily, whoever heard of an automatic watch that the more you wear it the worse the time keeping gets, rather disappointing to say the least...I mean the whole Swiss watch reputation, foundation, LEGEND even is built on their accuracy and reliability, ain´t it?? Rolex with it´s COSC watchamacallit leans heavily into this FAB...feature, advantage, benefit...

say one thing for them, superlative full spectrum text book marketing and that´s not knocking them.

[Wallasey Runner]

True re a life not really hinging on a few seconds here or there...heck some days I don´t need to know the date or day... However Rolex sell these watches with all manner of superlatives including about their ACCURATE time keeping...seems a bit of a swizz that their new movement appears to have pronounced tendency to run slow and the more so when it´s worn daily, whoever heard of an automatic watch that the more you wear it the worse the time keeping gets, rather disappointing to say the least...I mean the whole Swiss watch reputation, foundation, is built on their accuracy and reliability, ain´t it??

Agreed, but if you and I bought identical new Rolex watches at the same time and went our separate ways, one of us went for long walks, gardened, wore the watch in bed etc and the other sat on the couch watching football, drinking beer, eating Pizza and took the watch off at night would we get identical performances over a 24 hour period, I’m guessing not.

Equally, taking the watch off and lying flat as opposed to vertical with crown up or crown down will all have different impacts.

There are so many variables to factor in that can have impact on overall performance.