Total recall for the Cybertruck. The gas pedal cover comes loose (it's neither rivetted or glued), wedges itself under the dash, resulting in a 100% throttle. So 3000 rust buckets from the US are going back to the "dealers". Elon is a genius
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Gas pedal you say, in a Tesla???
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Originally Posted by Martylaa
Perfect
It seems the product is a disaster , yet another failure from Musk
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Not according to Matt Watson
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=adZztW0YbJ0
And people are buying them
https://www.motor1.com/news/716771/t...y-numbers/amp/
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So many issues being reported, one guy drove it from the forecourt his windscreen went red and the car died , he had on 3 minutes
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Must be gutted, and only the second richest man in the world.
Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.
If it’s like every other electric car, a prod of the accelerator will make the brakes engage and it will stop?
I’ve never heard of that before, I’ll have to find a quiet road and give it a try.
Don’t!! I meant a prod of the brake pedal - mind must have been foggy when I posted that!!!
I wish you’d told me earlier, I’ve rear ended three cars this afternoon!
Yep that has been confirmed. Brake overrides the throttle and you can safely stop the vehicle and put it in park.
Harry Metcalfe mentions this in the review of the facelift model 3 that just went live on his YouTube channel. It looks beyond infuriating to use honestly!
Don’t follow this advice, I meant a prod of the brakes!!
Their recall fix is a self tapper through the accelerator cover.
Doubtful it’s stainless.
"Bite my shiny metal ass."
- Bender Bending Rodríguez
Think hates a bit strong, more a general shoulder shrug at the apparent amazingness of 30 miles a day in a ground car,,,just not very Bladerunner is it...and we´re all expected to be jazzed, seems really kinda a bit of let down.
I’m not saying it’s amazing. I’m saying it’s just a car. And I was referring to the environment turning into Bladerunner not the car?! Perhaps hate is too strong - but there is so much negativity out there out there right now, a lot of it ill-informed and frankly a bit daft - it does make me wonder if the oil companies are happy to see it carry on. I am jazzed at the reduced cost of my commute however, and have hardly driven our other petrol car since getting the EV. I drive it every couple of weeks to remind myself how a manual gearbox operates - and was recently quite shocked at the cost of a tank of petrol when it needed topping up!Think hates a bit strong, more a general shoulder shrug at the apparent amazingness of 30 miles a day in a ground car,,,just not very Bladerunner is it...and we´re all expected to be jazzed, seems really kinda a bit of let down.
I was initially apprehensive about an EV - what about the range, how will I charge it, will the battery die? - but after almost three years and around 35k miles I've concluded, like RobDad, that, it's just a car. A cheap to run car, admittedly, and one which is brilliantly suited to transportation rather than providing thrills, but ultimately nothing to get excited about. Oh, and it's clean, quiet and really easy to use - once you've had an EV even the best auto gearbox seems a bit crude.
The depreciation on mine is a bit of a PITA, but that's the market rather than the car - another reason that the next EV will be leased so I don't have to worry about the ups and downs and can let the market settle for the next three years. There are any number of crap EVs out there and I have a particular dislike of the de-stalking, de-instrumentation and general screenification that Tesla has introduced, but as with all things automotive, the good ones will survive and the poor ones will fade away after a few years.
I am probably too thick to understand the panic expressed by doomsayers about the crashing of prices of EV on the 2nd hand market and the link that allows them to declare hitherto that it makes EVs bad.
Most people who move into EVs with a new car do it on a lease. If prices crash, the lease company takes a bath, not them.
Others buy their car 2nd hand. When it comes to getting another car, if theirs has tumbled in price, the whole EV 2nd hand market will have and therefore they will be able to buy cheap a better car than they would have the market not crashed.
Some manufacturers may disappear; others are "too big to fall", especially European ones (I am not sure China and the US understand the concept of TBTF). Choose accordingly.
'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.
I once read that the inventor of the automobile gear box said at the time that it would do for now, until something better came along. Apocryphal perhaps, but it has always resonated with me.
Appreciated thanks.
Agree cost savings are always jazzy...my previous post was meant slightly humorously...as you mention, the environment, seems clear to me we've cooked our goose tbh, the way the environmentals are still going badly despite all the promises and commitments, how the weather/ seasons can be observed to have altered, we've maybe a generation or 2 at best, some of the super rich might manage to eke out 'civilisation' in enclaves a wee bit longer...Seems a bit unfair really that we aren't enjoying our last hurrah with proper bladerunner style transport! Must settle for our best option being phat blinged up leccy ground cars...sigh. Oh well.
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I’d love to see a photo of someone that’s been hit with one of these, by the look of it with flat edges and stainless it’s going to cause serious damage if a body comes in contact with it at any speed.
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Same with almost any SUV or truck. Move the main point of impact up from the legs and you're going to be causing more damage to a human, especially with the weight and potential for it to accelerate much faster than a human can make it stop.
"A man of little significance"
There's a massive change already underway in what cars are and why people buy them. 90% of the Chinese market, where so many EVs are being built, are for the market below £35k, but those buyers want size and technology (and that's what our immediate future looks like as these cars are imported here in massive numbers). The buyers in China are mostly people who'd not have had a car 20 years ago and want to catch up fast. It seems to be the same here, people are perfectly happy to keep getting bigger and bigger cars until we reach gridlock on everything but the biggest roads and only every other car park space is useable. Cybertrucks aren't bought to be used as trucks, they're a statement, an Instagram post, something completely different to what everyone else drives, something oversized and attracting attention. Personally I have no interest in buying one (or any other Tesla) but really like the in your face aspect of the design. You don't buy a big truck or SUV because you want something subtle, so make it crazy instead, and you don't buy a Cybertruck if you want to haul logs. I really laugh at anyone who thinks any SUV or truck is good-looking but in a market where the Tesla is put in the same category as the F150 and Dodge Ram, even the Rivian R1T, I don't see why the Cybertruck comes in for so much criticism. They're all ugly awful things, why is any one any more awful than the others?
"A man of little significance"
I imagine stateside preppers love the Cybertruck it has a rather Logans Run- post zombie apocalypse vibe, the steel and sharp looking edges!...it´d be really fascinating to know if they´ve been bought by Dems or Reps...Didn´t Elno claim the glass would be armoured, bullet proof in the CT so I guess that was a USP over a F150 or other truck, then he rather embarrassingly smashed a window on the display model with a stick iirc, lolz...Ah the madness of billionaire moguls and crowds...
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He won't be forever if he keeps making crap products
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Chinese are eating his lunch, hence another round of price slashing on his other car models.
To some he can do no wrong, personally I think he's struggling but let's see, the truck looks like a disaster to me
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You can't even fit a push bike on the cyber truck bed
And tbf 90% of road users are still better off with a hybrid, Toyota still adamant about that
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Bit like all the ‘ANIMAL’ etc 4dr pose-ups you see at Wickes wondering how to fit stuff in the back then!
Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.
Yeah but even those are bigger lol
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I can’t imagine we’ll see many Cybertrucks over here in the UK, they’ll be limited to business promotion tools, YouTubers or car collectors.
Still, 2m pre-orders for the truck apparently, so not sure about it being a failure.
If I was in the market for an electric pickup truck, the Ford F150 Lightning would be my pick. Fortunately, I’m not in that market and never will be.
Cybertruck isn't being sold in Europe as the design doesn't comply with basic safety standards in the event of a collision with a pedestrian.
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The development cost of the cybertruck would have been much better spent on a smaller crossover vehicle for European markets as that’s that the consumer wants at the moment, rather than this vanity project.
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Personally, I would agree with that, but seems the planned ‘Model 2’ has been canned as Musk feels it wouldn’t compete with the raft of competitor vehicles coming in that space, and he sees the future as ‘Robo Taxis’ or some such.
Still, u-turns and about faces aren’t uncommon with Musk!
Neither is making products with loads of faults charging loads of money for poor production standards
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I’m no Tesla/Musk ‘fanboi’, but the (somewhat perversely!) China built M3s like the one my wife owns were a step up build quality wise from the Fremont examples that came before them and gave Tesla the reputational issues that are hard to shake off.
No mass manufacture is immune from quality issues, even Toyota, so perspective is required.
That said, my wife is due to replace hers early next year, and she’s decided it won’t be another Tesla as she doesn’t like the way that the Highlander update has removed the indicator stalk, for one.
But back to the Cybertruck, whilst it isn’t something that I would ever drive, I do admire the push to build something different and disrupt the status quo in a US market that is very traditional and has led other manufacturers to build EV versions of pick-up trucks.
That and the gear stick will stop me from buying another Tesla. I can tolerate with Tesla in exchange for the positives but that is just too far for me.
Oh no, now your car will be on fire for 3 weeks - fire so catastrophic it will be visible from space, and take out 3 car parks and a small market town. Oops!
And they’ll have to dig a quarry the size of Angola to provide vibranium for the new batteries.
"Bite my shiny metal ass."
- Bender Bending Rodríguez
This quarry the size of Angola, will need to be in Wakanda, source of vibranium . Doubt the Wakandans will go for it, they're a pretty tough lot, super powerful leader.
If you go back in time, there was another all stainless steel vehicle that proved to be a commercial flop. - history repeating itself?
Is Elon is trying to go back to the future…
Looked at one today in Tesla dealership in International Mall Florida there was a lot of interest I spoke to the sales assistant re problems with the Cyber Truck and he said I should check that the information regarding stacks of faulty ones parked in the factory (it was in the daily mail) was correct I then asked him was there a price cut today and he said yes $2000 sheepishly.
He is just doing his job.
"Bite my shiny metal ass."
- Bender Bending Rodríguez
I'm not anti-EV, but I do wonder where we're going with all this.
The focus seems to be on building bigger cars with more performance and tech, which is fine if we all live a lease/PCP utopia where we can just swap to a new car every 3 years, but eventually the 'older' cars will start to develop problems and some poor soul will be left to foot the bill. I can't imagine how much maintenance costs will be to keep all the tech functioning on a modern EV or hybrid. Car manufacturers are going to be laughing all the way to the bank.
Why didn't manufacturers invest their billions into developing alternative fuels for existing cars? Coryton have developed a plant based alternative fuel for existing engines, reducing emissions by 65%, so it is possible. Maybe that could be improved further with more development/investment, but instead the response from the big players has been 'Nah...look at the shiny, shiny!' Sad times.
I have a 5 year old hybrid and the battery that runs it is in the back accessible and cheap, unlike an EV, I can't fathom why I need an EV
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I am wondering why there is no family sedan that would't go from 0 to 100 in 3-4 seconds? I don't need high performance sports car, I'd rather have bigger range than faster acceleration.
I bought a Nissan Leaf Mk 1 - one of the very first mass-production electric cars. Still does a reliable 100-120 miles (depending on the weather) after 70k miles, has never had anything go wrong with it and will, I'm sure, carry on beetling around the suburbs for many years to come. It's not a fast car but perfectly good enough for normal driving. It's also really quite a simple car - electric motors are hardly rocket science - and is (other than the mode of propulsion) just as complicated as any other small Nissan of the period. Essentially it's an electric Nissan Juke only without the problems or the maintenance costs. Given that this was Nissan's first attempt at EV power and the technology has moved on massively, the fact that at 70k it's still absolutely rock-solid and still doing much the same range as new (OK, it's probably dropped 10 miles) says to me that the doomsayers are perhaps over-egging it.
I'm definitely not interested in the Tesla 2.5s 0-60 nonsense and my next EV (I'm swapping out the Leaf plus an old diesel for a Mustang Mach-E) is the low-powered 2wd version, which is entirely quick enough. That will be on a lease (salary sacrifice scheme) but that's only because I don't want to pay more tax than I have to. I'd happily have bought a secondhand longer-range EV as my only car though.
Exactly. All EV's should be just like this if the goal was to hit the green targets, but your experience with the car is bad news for Nissan, who I'm assuming, have made practically no profit on the car after the initial sale.
If the EV drivetrain and motor proves to be as reliable as they claim, then the only way for manufacturers to make profit after the initial sale is for the ancillary tech to fail. My comment above wasn't about the batteries specifically, which I agree seems to have been over-egged somewhat, it's about the rest. Modern EV's aren't old enough yet, but a bill of £850 when your door handles don't pop out one morning, or a "rear view mirror" camera fails will be painful for what is effectively non-essential tech.
I was speaking to someone at work who has a 2019 xc90 hybrid and just had the motor/transaxle replaced at a cost of 15k that is a well known problem, BMW phev and Renault zoes commonly have the charging unit go after 5 years which cost 8k I wouldn't want to have a modern car out of warranty every thing that breaks seems to cost thousands proberbly a big reason a lot of people lease now
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