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    What happened to Nitromors

    It's absolutely useless Now, any suggestions for a paint stripper that works would be appreciated.

    It used to be that if you splashed it on the back of your hand you knew all about it, I reckon you could bath in this stuff and not feel it
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    They took all the good stuff out of it a number of years ago thanks to health and safety. I have tried a few other brands but all hopeless. For smaller articles wrapping them tightly in a plastic bag keeps the fumes in and improves the performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonah View Post
    They took all the good stuff out of it a number of years ago thanks to health and safety. I have tried a few other brands but all hopeless. For smaller articles wrapping them tightly in a plastic bag keeps the fumes in and improves the performance.
    Unfortunately this is a big cam cover, I left it for two hours and it hasn't even touched it, I know it's just aerosol paint because I sprayed it a few years back

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    Starchem synstrip is very good if you can get it.

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    EU banned methylene chloride - key ingredient of the old version.
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    Time to get out the wire wool and apply some elbow grease

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    Paint Stripper

    Have a look on YouTube as I seem to remember Roger Bisby of Skill builders did a test on this.
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    Proper creosote went the same way as Nitromors. Now there's some wishy-washy alternative which has the same sticking power as watered down soy sauce.

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    As an apprentice 48 years ago the stripping of Shellac’s and old varnish surfaces was a job you did. I remember back then if you got some little flicks off the brush on to your bare skin it was hell. At the end of the day you looked like you had measles. As said it would not strip the skin of a rice pudding now. All to do with H&S changes back in 2008 I remember it well all my COSHE Assessments had to be changed for the Risk and Method Statements.

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    I found something pretty effective on aluminium castings, the Dirtkiller attachment on my pressure washer, it just eats paint, obviously there are a lot of things you mustn't point it at.

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    Vapour-blasting seems to be the new method, and you can find several people offering the service on a kind of 'paying hobby' status.

    Have a search on Facebook Marketplace. I doubt you'd have to travel more then 50miles.

    Not a lot of money and leaves the castings/components ready for a wipe down with acetone and painting/laquering.

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    Similar experience with Jeye's Fluid. Used to be a great mosskiller, even in very low concentrations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_in_the_UK View Post
    EU banned methylene chloride - key ingredient of the old version.
    Yup Chris is correct, we used to use meth c to remove resin from molds. With the new “ dumbed down” paint strippers you use more, need more local extraction and the job took three times as long, progress eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Filterlab View Post
    Proper creosote went the same way as Nitromors. Now there's some wishy-washy alternative which has the same sticking power as watered down soy sauce.
    Yes indeed.

    The old creosote penetrated and protected the wood.

    Today's stuff in not much better than emulsion that simply lies on the surface and gets virtually washed away after a season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil.C View Post
    Yes indeed.

    The old creosote penetrated and protected the wood.

    Today's stuff in not much better than emulsion that simply lies on the surface and gets virtually washed away after a season.
    I mixed 50-50 new creosote and used engine oil.

    Seems to almost be like the original stuff...albeit not as environmental.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Filterlab View Post
    Proper creosote went the same way as Nitromors. Now there's some wishy-washy alternative which has the same sticking power as watered down soy sauce.
    Yes it's called creocote now I think. I bought some years ago and added my old engine oil from my oil change. Just don't smoke next to my fence please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackal View Post
    Vapour-blasting seems to be the new method, and you can find several people offering the service on a kind of 'paying hobby' status.

    Have a search on Facebook Marketplace. I doubt you'd have to travel more then 50miles.

    Not a lot of money and leaves the castings/components ready for a wipe down with acetone and painting/laquering.
    Unfortunately there are too many oil seals and carriers to risk vapour blasting

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    Add Round Up to the list of “used to be good, now rubbish”

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    Creosote is still available from agricultural suppliers .
    I was given the tip by an employee as it’s used in/on chicken buildings as it prevents “ chicken mite “ .
    The only draw back is it’s in 25 litre containers , however my friends all have creosote treated sheds and fences .


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    Quote Originally Posted by demonloop View Post
    Add Round Up to the list of “used to be good, now rubbish”
    Still available on eBay, top strength too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David_D View Post
    Similar experience with Jeye's Fluid. Used to be a great mosskiller, even in very low concentrations.
    Try sodium hypochlorite, works wonders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reggie747 View Post
    Try sodium hypochlorite, works wonders.
    Just used up 4 ltrs on my monoblock driveway - it's now about £33 per 4ltrs.

    Dilute from 14% by vol to around 10% for use, and make sure if spraying it, that you clean off the pump - as it corrodes metals.

    Don't get any on your clothes - it bleaches where it touches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackal View Post
    Just used up 4 ltrs on my monoblock driveway - it's now about £33 per 4ltrs.

    Dilute from 14% by vol to around 10% for use, and make sure if spraying it, that you clean off the pump - as it corrodes metals.

    Don't get any on your clothes - it bleaches where it touches.
    I bought in bulk at 18 quid for 25 litres at 15% juiced down 4 parts water to one part solution. (Walker Bros, Oldham)
    You're right about it bleaching clothing/shoes out, no bother.
    I brush it one my drive with a long hair soft sweeper, leave it 20-30 mins then rinse it off with a jet wash, looks like new on completion.

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    Would wrapping it in clingfilm assist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by reggie747 View Post
    I bought in bulk at 18 quid for 25 litres at 15% juiced down 4 parts water to one part solution. (Walker Bros, Oldham)
    You're right about it bleaching clothing/shoes out, no bother.
    I brush it one my drive with a long hair soft sweeper, leave it 20-30 mins then rinse it off with a jet wash, looks like new on completion.
    Interesting, our resin drives got a bit of algae on it this winter & if this will be the best thing to to try, or maybe start a little milder like algae-gone or whatever it’s called.


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    +1 for sodium hypochlorite on driveway/patio


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_in_the_UK View Post
    EU banned methylene chloride - key ingredient of the old version.
    We're saved.
    Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Filterlab View Post
    Proper creosote went the same way as Nitromors. Now there's some wishy-washy alternative which has the same sticking power as watered down soy sauce.
    Exactly the same with Jeyes fluid , the new stuff is absolute garbage .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mj2k View Post
    Interesting, our resin drives got a bit of algae on it this winter & if this will be the best thing to to try, or maybe start a little milder like algae-gone or whatever it’s called.
    BAC-50 is best for algae on patios/paving and fences. Amazon sell it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Filterlab View Post
    Proper creosote went the same way as Nitromors. Now there's some wishy-washy alternative which has the same sticking power as watered down soy sauce.
    Banned from domestic use in 2003 under EU biocidal products regulation due to environment and health issues (col tar based). Still available for commercial use (railway sleepers, telegraph poles, agricultural fencing). A further increase in the ban is coming in early 2005 except for railway sleepers and telegraph poles.
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    ^^ 2025?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lewie View Post
    Would wrapping it in clingfilm assist?
    That is what I do with oven cleaner - brush it on to the sides and cover with cling-film. Way better as it stays in gel form.

    for the oven roof - lay out alu foil, with cling film on top. brush the gel on to the oven roof and offer up the clingfilm/foil. drop the foil out and pat the clingfilm on to the surface.

    The foil is just to support the clingfilm as you lift it into position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halitosis View Post
    BAC-50 is best for algae on patios/paving and fences. Amazon sell it
    Cheers, will have a look at that stuff. Think I’ve got some old / rubbish stuff in the garage but know it’s not enough to cover everywhere.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Filterlab View Post
    ^^ 2025?
    Typo, yes 2025
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    Armillatox is now defunct - the product to go for moss, algae etc


    Apparently it wasn't worth the hassle of going through the regulation.


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    Quote Originally Posted by reggie747 View Post
    Try sodium hypochlorite, works wonders.
    Thanks. Think I posted for some suggestions a while ago. Nothing I’ve tried has been as effective as a very small amount of Jeyes in a few litres of water!

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    Quote Originally Posted by David_D View Post
    Thanks. Think I posted for some suggestions a while ago. Nothing I’ve tried has been as effective as a very small amount of Jeyes in a few litres of water!
    Jayes used to be great for keeping ants out of the house, go all the way round the outside and they won't cross it, we used to have an ant man once a year, when he retired he told me that, it does work

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackal View Post
    Just used up 4 ltrs on my monoblock driveway - it's now about £33 per 4ltrs.

    Dilute from 14% by vol to around 10% for use, and make sure if spraying it, that you clean off the pump - as it corrodes metals.

    Don't get any on your clothes - it bleaches where it touches.
    If it's that expensive use household bleach. Only ~5% but should still do the job even if you have to use more.

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