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    Smiths diver?

    Might there be some inspriation for a future Timefactors model here?

    Didn't post this when the auction was live, I seem to remember that it isn't the done thing.

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    Re: Smiths diver?

    Picture/Link?

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    Re: Smiths diver?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonmurgie
    Picture/Link?
    Here.

    It was in the original post just well hidden :wink:

    PS Wouldn't it be great if Eddies could get the new ones partially made or at least cased up in England.

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    Re: Smiths diver?

    I quite like that!
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    Re: Smiths diver?

    Ah got it... not too bad that, like the big hour hand :)

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    Re: Smiths diver?

    I have this Smiths diver - a tad small by today's tastes at 32mm, but a 38/40mm version might be nice. I'll even lend it to Mr. P if he wants to have a go at producing one!




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    Re: Smiths diver?

    Quote Originally Posted by SimonK
    I have this Smiths diver - a tad small by today's tastes at 32mm, but a 38/40mm version might be nice.
    I like that. Plenty of character.

    I'd personally be happy with a smaller than the current norm diver, would make a nice change.

    I have a nice old smiths dress watch at 32mm that obviously wears a little smaller than my SMP etc, but sits well on the wrist. :lol:

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    Re: Smiths diver?

    Am I the only one to think that the haphazard use of an arrow for either the hour or the minute hand (about 50:50 among the watches thus afflicted) have rendered this stylistic feature more or less useless?
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    Re: Smiths diver?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crusader
    Am I the only one to think that the haphazard use of an arrow for either the hour or the minute hand (about 50:50 among the watches thus afflicted) have rendered this stylistic feature more or less useless?
    I agree.
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    Yep, in the dark those arrow hands are quite poor.

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    Re: Smiths diver?

    Better pictures?

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    Re: Smiths diver?

    Quote Originally Posted by micsike
    Better pictures?

    what are you on about?

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    Re: Smiths diver?

    Quote Originally Posted by SimonK
    I have this Smiths diver - a tad small by today's tastes at 32mm, but a 38/40mm version might be nice. I'll even lend it to Mr. P if he wants to have a go at producing one!



    I like that, and I like the hands. Would look good with a BP50F type bezel.

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    Re: Smiths diver?

    That's a lovely old watch - never to be restored I hope!
    If that bezel could speak.......it would probably have a good cry before uttering its first words! :D

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    I like it over all i just think the hands are just a little bit too big/fat, I love the old bezels like that.

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    Re: Smiths diver?

    Well there's definitely a market for Smiths divers; this one went for 220 quid. The seller says the bezel is not correct, I think he is right - the picture in the catalogue of the time shows a dot, rather than a triangle, at 12 and minute markers all the way round. This model appears in the 1968 catalogue and is advertised as having the same movement as the military issued W10 - "subjected to exhaustive test (sic) by the Hydrographer of the Royal Navy, chronometer branch Herstmonceaux" - according to the copy in the catalogue.

    http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie ... K:MEWAX:IT

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    Re: Smiths diver?

    Quote Originally Posted by magirus
    Quote Originally Posted by Crusader
    Am I the only one to think that the haphazard use of an arrow for either the hour or the minute hand (about 50:50 among the watches thus afflicted) have rendered this stylistic feature more or less useless?
    I agree.
    Moi aussi. BTW, since we don't have a photo from the auction and the listing is now gone, we now have no idea what watch the OP was referring to :roll:

    Here's the watch in Simon's link (with better color):


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    Re: Smiths diver?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nalu
    BTW, since we don't have a photo from the auction and the listing is now gone, we now have no idea what watch the OP was referring to :roll:
    Not sure about the ethics of this but i did keep some copies of the pics.























    I'd like one. Could well be the same watch that turned up in the later auction with a new bezel. Sacriligeous if it is.

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    Re: Smiths diver?

    don't think it is the same one - different second hand.

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    Also, note the tropical weave strap fitted to the W10. Perhaps the new Timefactors/Smiths should come with this style of strap as standard?

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    Great pic Simon.... is there a hi-res version of that catalogue on-line anywhere?

    Rgds
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    Re: Smiths diver?

    I want one :lol:

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    Re: Smiths diver?

    A couple of things realyy impress me about the one in the original ebay ad; great aesthetic design in the count down bezel and the excellent engineeing that allowed a watch in that condition to contain a pristine movement.

    Makes you proud to be English :wink:

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    Re: Smiths diver?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunscrossed
    I want one :lol:
    +1

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    Re: Smiths diver?

    Quote Originally Posted by aliasrichmond
    Great pic Simon.... is there a hi-res version of that catalogue on-line anywhere?

    Rgds
    Jim
    It's from a recently published book on Smiths watches. Watch this space, I'll do a review as soon as I get a few minutes.

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    Re: Smiths diver?

    Quote Originally Posted by SimonK
    Quote Originally Posted by aliasrichmond
    Great pic Simon.... is there a hi-res version of that catalogue on-line anywhere?

    Rgds
    Jim
    It's from a recently published book on Smiths watches. Watch this space, I'll do a review as soon as I get a few minutes.
    Any info please?

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    Re: Smiths diver?

    Probably this book -

    http://www.smiths-clocks.co.uk/

    scroll down

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    Re: Smiths diver?

    Quote Originally Posted by tribe125
    Probably this book -

    http://www.smiths-clocks.co.uk/

    scroll down
    Ta.

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    Re: Smiths diver?

    Quote Originally Posted by tribe125
    Probably this book -

    http://www.smiths-clocks.co.uk/

    scroll down
    Close, but no cigar. I'll post a review later. Patience!

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    Re: Smiths diver?

    Quote Originally Posted by SimonK
    Quote Originally Posted by tribe125
    Probably this book -

    http://www.smiths-clocks.co.uk/

    scroll down
    Close, but no cigar. I'll post a review later. Patience!
    Well??? :wink:

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    Re: Smiths diver?

    Quote Originally Posted by abraxas
    Quote Originally Posted by SimonK
    Quote Originally Posted by tribe125
    Probably this book -

    http://www.smiths-clocks.co.uk/

    scroll down
    Close, but no cigar. I'll post a review later. Patience!
    Well??? :wink:

    john
    Done, yonks ago - in the review section.

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    Re: Smiths diver?

    Quote Originally Posted by SimonK
    Quote Originally Posted by abraxas
    Quote Originally Posted by SimonK
    Quote Originally Posted by tribe125
    Probably this book -

    http://www.smiths-clocks.co.uk/

    scroll down
    Close, but no cigar. I'll post a review later. Patience!
    Well??? :wink:

    john
    Done, yonks ago - in the review section.
    Cheers, I saw that. The way you phrased it above made me think there was another book on offer.

    I received the Barrie Smith volume last week … nothing to add to what you have already said. What stands out more than anything is how middle of the road Smiths were which of course allows plenty of room for improvement and diversification.

    This chap has one of those divers for sale … price is bit steep tho:
    http://www.antiquewatchshop.co.uk/produ ... mhmhshhqn7

    john
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    Re: Smiths diver?

    FWIW, I think the Smiths diver shown at the start of the thread is a bit too derivative. I think the PRS3, PRS14 and PRS18 do a better job already.

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    Re: Smiths diver?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sweetwater
    FWIW, I think the Smiths diver shown at the start of the thread is a bit too derivative. I think the PRS3, PRS14 and PRS18 do a better job already.
    Would you believe me if I told you that only a few hours ago I was thinking of something similar ... that the PRS-18 is a much better option than a homage of a Smiths Astral Diver.

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    Re: Smiths diver?





    What I was also thinking … if we are to stay with the quartz theme for Smiths and keeping the date of the PRS-27 but removing the seconds and using large dauphine hands as per B&R Function (and of course a different case to the PRS-27, something a bit more ‘60s with a curved crystal).

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