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    Re: Volcanic ash grounds the entire UK

    Time to unmothball the QE2 for trans-Atlantic travel. Six days, wasn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glamdring
    Time to unmothball the QE2 for trans-Atlantic travel. Six days, wasn't it?
    That was when Margaret Thatcher was PM ... things have changed since then ... I doubt if we have the necessary teamwork or leadership now to repeat a quick deployment.

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    Re: Volcanic ash grounds the entire UK

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picture ... chaos.html

    Bit too far to 'silly walk' it :wink:

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    Re: Volcanic ash grounds the entire UK

    Quote Originally Posted by sundial
    Quote Originally Posted by Glamdring
    Time to unmothball the QE2 for trans-Atlantic travel. Six days, wasn't it?
    That was when Margaret Thatcher was PM ... things have changed since then ... I doubt if we have the necessary teamwork or leadership now to repeat a quick deployment.

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    What?

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    Re: Volcanic ash grounds the entire UK

    Quote Originally Posted by sundial
    I'm off out to stock up on fresh fruit and veg as supplies are probably drying up ... fresh pineapple is one of my staples. Consider all the salad veg that is imported from Spain.
    Better start growing our own lettuces, tomatoes and cucumbers then ;). Ah, but then the supermarkets won't pay local prices, will they, so we don't get them. Unless they subcontract supplier negotiations to Halliburton's teams of be-sunglassed men in black SUVs.

    Anyway. Screw the supermarkets, the lot of 'em. Farmer's market tomorrow, and apparently some of them use these things called greenhouses to grow stuff that normally requires a warmer climate. Amazing!
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    Re: Volcanic ash grounds the entire UK

    My wife warned me not to go outside today because of the fall-out from Iceland

    Foolishly, I ignored her and was promptly hit on the head by a Black Forest gateau and a bag of peeled prawns :lol:

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    Better start growing our own lettuces, tomatoes and cucumbers then ;). Ah, but then the supermarkets won't pay local prices, will they, so we don't get them.
    We haven't been self-sufficient in food for more than a century.

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    Re: Volcanic ash grounds the entire UK

    you owe me a glass of macallan, and a new laptop. as i just spat my malt all over it! :evil: :D
    Quote Originally Posted by jobseeker
    My wife warned me not to go outside today because of the fall-out from Iceland

    Foolishly, I ignored her and was promptly hit on the head by a Black Forest gateau and a bag of peeled prawns :lol:
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    Re: Volcanic ash grounds the entire UK

    Sorry, I couldn't resist it

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    Re: Volcanic ash grounds the entire UK

    The worst possible scenario is that we start using ration books again ... like we last did in 1950/51. This eruption could last for weeks or months.

    http://www.volcanolive.com/predictions.html

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    Re: Volcanic ash grounds the entire UK

    Quote Originally Posted by sundial
    The worst possible scenario is that we start using ration books again ... like we last did in 1950/51. This eruption could last for weeks or months.

    dunk
    It could last for months, but I expect that we'll manage for a while without kiwi fruit and pineapple slices. Mind if I ask how old you are, Dunk?

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    Re: Volcanic ash grounds the entire UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Seabadger
    Quote Originally Posted by sundial
    The worst possible scenario is that we start using ration books again ... like we last did in 1950/51. This eruption could last for weeks or months.

    dunk
    It could last for months, but I expect that we'll manage for a while without kiwi fruit and pineapple slices. Mind if I ask how old you are, Dunk?
    Old enough to remember ration books ... and the Nissen hut situated in New Malden Surrey where my mother took me to get her allocation. I'm 63 years young :wink:
    Seriously, exotic fruits and veg. plus seafoods could be in short supply - but I expect that UK growers will rise to the challenge if the aircraft grounding continues.

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    Re: Volcanic ash grounds the entire UK

    I might go out later to see what's growing wild... :lol:

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    Re: Volcanic ash grounds the entire UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Seabadger
    Quote Originally Posted by sundial
    Quote Originally Posted by Glamdring
    Time to unmothball the QE2 for trans-Atlantic travel. Six days, wasn't it?
    That was when Margaret Thatcher was PM ... things have changed since then ... I doubt if we have the necessary teamwork or leadership now to repeat a quick deployment.

    dunk
    What?
    Falklands War ... when QE2 was converted to a troopship in less than 2 weeks.

    I thought you were referring to the possibility of refitting the QE2 to replace all the grounded aircraft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A.Pottinger
    I might go out later to see what's growing wild... :lol:

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    Lots of wild garlic this time of year :wink:

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    Re: Volcanic ash grounds the entire UK

    Quote Originally Posted by jobseeker
    My wife warned me not to go outside today because of the fall-out from Iceland

    Foolishly, I ignored her and was promptly hit on the head by a Black Forest gateau and a bag of peeled prawns :lol:
    POD!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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    Re: Volcanic ash grounds the entire UK

    I'm not sure what the fuss is about.

    It's JET aircraft that're grounded, I believe that Air Atlantiques flights are unaffected & they can haul cargo like fruit & stuff.

    Plus, flying from Coventry to, say, Berlin in a DC3 or 6 has a certain jene-s ais quoi. Don't forget to throw chocolate bars out of the plane on final approach. :D

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    Re: Volcanic ash grounds the entire UK

    Quote Originally Posted by jobseeker
    My wife warned me not to go outside today because of the fall-out from Iceland

    Foolishly, I ignored her and was promptly hit on the head by a Black Forest gateau and a bag of peeled prawns :lol:
    LOL absolutely brilliant ha ha ha !! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundial

    Falklands War ... when QE2 was converted to a troopship in less than 2 weeks.

    I thought you were referring to the possibility of refitting the QE2 to replace all the grounded aircraft.

    dunk
    I know what you were referring to, but there's a significant difference between using QE2 as STUFT in a war and the current situation. I wonder if the fact that Cunard and P&O are now American owned would have an impact on our ability to do that again - presumably any move to use the current ships would have to be done on the basis of a commercial lease.

    On the subject of ships / boats, I found out from a friend yesterday that he has a yacht stuck in Martinique completely unattended - the original skipper appears to have done a runner, and the replacement skipper and crew are stuck in Poland with no way of getting out there to secure the boat and bring it back. He's understandably pretty anxious, and his wife is due to give birth any day now - not good.


    Seriously, exotic fruits and veg. plus seafoods could be in short supply - but I expect that UK growers will rise to the challenge if the aircraft grounding continues.
    It's clearly going to be an issue, but there are times when I think that the transporting of fruit and veg around the world by 'plane is pretty excessive and wasteful really. I'm not particularly ecologically minded, but eating seasonal, local produce ( as far as is practicable when we need to import a huge amount of food in any case) has a lot going for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundial
    The worst possible scenario is that we start using ration books again ...
    The country would fall apart :D. The have-it-now generations wouldn't know what to do if they can't get their starfruit and asparagus; the junk-food and mutton-pie brigade would starve as supplies of Argentine beef and rejected New Zealand lamb dry up. 'Course if we just grew more of our own stuff in the first place instead of importing it from the cheapest bidder...
    ...but what do I know; I don't even like watches!

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    I assume that beef and lamb are imported by sea. It's exotic and unseasonal fruit that we'll run short of, and I'm not sure the junk food brigade will be particularly troubled by that.

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    Re: Volcanic ash grounds the entire UK

    should have been on a sunbed today should have flew out friday to hurghada, instead i,m sat here wondering wether my 1400 quid has gone up in smoke so to speak.

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    Re: Volcanic ash grounds the entire UK

    There is a possibility we may witness a blue moon or blue sun ... http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/s ... 098303.ece

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    It's clearly an insurance job by the Icelandic government, first they go bankrupt and then a little while later the place goes up in smoke...

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    The ban has now been re-set to 01.00 tomorrow.......
    looks like I'm staying home next week!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ralphy
    The ban has now been re-set to 01.00 tomorrow.......
    looks like I'm staying home next week!

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    Re: Volcanic ash grounds the entire UK

    My Berlin>London flight has now been cancelled and have re-booked for Wednesday. It's a good job I didn't wait for an email from the airline and just refreshed their status page periodically.

    Sun shining in Berlin so not feeling particularly miffed. By co-incidence I took delivery of two video conferencing systems last week (plus a Komandirskie and a Nikon D200 :)) but am struggling to get them to work. That should keep me busy on Monday and Tuesday...

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    What with the papers going on about the ash lasting weeks, the other half is getting concerned our honeymoon in 4 weeks will be stopped.

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    Re: Volcanic ash grounds the entire UK

    I note there are voices of discontent from some airlines about the closure. Nobody big dares break ranks though. The notion of a 777 tumbling to earth doesn't bear thinking about.

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    i,ve been informed that i may have a refund from the airline but i,m still waiting to find out wether the hotel will either re-schedule or refund ,but i don,t expect to find out until tommorow so keeping fingers crossed,i was thinking about re-scheduling for may, but i,m not so sure now.

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    There seem to be atmospheric strata unaffected by the dust and therefore safe to fly in. But, do planes have to fly through polluted strata to reach the safe zones?

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    I'm in New York on business at the moment - supposed to fly home in a couple of weeks, but who knows how long this'll go for. Fortunately my employer is on the ball and has reserved tickets on a liner to bring us back, just in case :). Apparently it takes four days...

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    Quote Originally Posted by the big fella
    i was thinking about re-scheduling for may and but i,m not so sure now.
    I HAVE to keep thinking only because Brussels Airways is totally out of the air. No website, no mail, telephone overloaded....

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    Re: Volcanic ash grounds the entire UK

    No fly now extended to 7.00am tomorrow.
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    Re: Volcanic ash grounds the entire UK

    I think that on balance a delay is prefereable to falling out of the sky... No?

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    Re: Volcanic ash grounds the entire UK

    This is chaos, when will it end!

    I just booked train tickets to London for Thursday as a backup in case the flights are still binned :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huertecilla
    Quote Originally Posted by the big fella
    i was thinking about re-scheduling for may and but i,m not so sure now.
    I HAVE to keep thinking only because Brussels Airways is totally out of the air. No website, no mail, telephone overloaded....
    keep trying you are entitled to a re-shedule or refund apparantly ,but it,s not supprising most of the airlines are on overload. even though i did manage to get through to thomson,s alright.

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    Re: Volcanic ash grounds the entire UK

    Just heard from my colleague that flights will be cancelled all this week and maybe next week as eruptions are expected for a few days more at the very least.
    anyone with holidays booked and already on holiday will experience further delays.


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    Re: Volcanic ash grounds the entire UK

    Quote Originally Posted by miked10270
    I'm not sure what the fuss is about.
    It's "swine 'flu" all over again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_in_the_UK
    No fly now extended to 7.00am tomorrow.

    that will more than likely be extended again unless there is a major change in wind or weather,thunderstorm comes to mind ,but that,s not an impossabilaty we,ve 2-3 good days of weather so we must be due one by now.

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    Re: Volcanic ash grounds the entire UK

    Quote Originally Posted by the big fella
    http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/2010/volcano/updates,hmtl
    Linky no worky !! :P

    Try http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/p ... dates.html

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    looking at the afeccted areas it lookes likes uk flights may be possable from 7.00 am, a freind also tells me they,ve had rain and quite strong winds in glasgow and it,s bringing the ash down with it.

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    Re: Volcanic ash grounds the entire UK

    I believe the reason for all this is :

    The Icelanders got Gordon's note,
    but yet another spelling mistake
    from our great leader,
    it was supposed to say 'please send cash!'
    :mrgreen:

    (not the author, found it on another site )

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundial
    Went to Sainsbury this evening and stocked up on foreign fresh fruit and veg. The young lady cashier was unaware of the volcanic eruption when I mentioned it and she asked, "So what's that then? And where is it?" When I told her and explained why the planes were grounded etc. she said, "Iceland? Err... where's that then?" Then she said, "Oh! ...I'll 'have to look it up on the internet ... first I've heard of it!"

    And she will have a vote in the forthcoming General Election! :roll: :!:

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    Oh my goodness, is that the true state of education in this country?! :(

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundial
    Quote Originally Posted by Glamdring
    Time to unmothball the QE2 for trans-Atlantic travel. Six days, wasn't it?
    That was when Margaret Thatcher was PM ... things have changed since then ... I doubt if we have the necessary teamwork or leadership now to repeat a quick deployment.

    dunk
    Interesting to note on the radio that HMS Ark Royal and HMS Ocean are apparently going to be used to being people across the Channel, and HMS Albion is heading for Spain to bring back 3 Rifles and may also be available for civilian use. It's an encouraging start - and pretty handy that the ships are in the right place rather than in the Indian Ocean or something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khayman
    I believe the reason for all this is :

    The Icelanders got Gordon's note,
    but yet another spelling mistake
    from our great leader,
    it was supposed to say 'please send cash!'
    :mrgreen:

    (not the author, found it on another site )
    :lol: :lol: :lol:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khayman
    I believe the reason for all this is :

    The Icelanders got Gordon's note,
    but yet another spelling mistake
    from our great leader,
    it was supposed to say 'please send cash!'
    :mrgreen:

    (not the author, found it on another site )
    The Icelandic alphabet doesn't contain the letter "c"

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    My holiday to Egypt has just been officially cancelled, bollox! :(

    Good news is, my mate, who is with the RMP in Afghan is on his way home, so they must have managed to travel with the 3 Rifles Battle group.

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    Re: Volcanic ash grounds the entire UK

    How do airliners and military jets cope with sand getting in the engines in the Middle East or is that completely different silica?

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