I heard that Saddam wore a Sub ND on one of Eddie's black NATOs :D :D
Just got sucked into another documentary (TV is great isn't it :lol: )
Apparently Josef Mengele (Sp?) wore a Seiko......
Now I know the weaker amongst us get affected by such things ie not liking a watch/brand because footballers sport them.
Will there be a glut on SC now or is this the reason you bought one? :lol:
Respect the past, live the present, protect the future
I heard that Saddam wore a Sub ND on one of Eddie's black NATOs :D :D
Originally Posted by notenoughwrists
Here is one shown among other personal posessions:
In close up...Originally Posted by notenoughwrists
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David
Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations
Originally Posted by dkpw
And who knocks Audemars for their L.E.s ? :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
[quote="Scottishtrunkmonkey"]Just got sucked into another documentary (TV is great isn't it :lol: )
Apparently Josef Mengele (Sp?) wore a Seiko......
Hugo Boss, also designed the black WaffenSS uniform, but I'm not selling mine. :D
What did the Japanese soldiers wear when they tortured British troops?Originally Posted by Scottishtrunkmonkey
http://www.shoppingnewclothes.com/presi ... rolex.html
The text is translated by the random english words generator scrapped by a japanese marketing bureau.
It first went to Ken Sato Trading and since he was Omepanro-ed it has been recycled as a blog editor.
A most amusing story about watch politics is the history of the 3646.
Not only was it fished up with the italian maiale d(r)ivers, there also is footage of the Kampfschwimmer action to blow up a Nijmegen bridge, yes of ´one too far´, cléarly wearing one.
Obviously a watch is just an inate object.
The Home Office was só not amused by the sales procedure however which ís followed by people, that it had a batch of dedicated sterling silver tool made for the Chroriot d(r)ivers instead of buying/using the tested, tried and proven 3646...
A watch is an inate object to which a marketed brand image attached to it in order to sell that brand. That image is perception and the differences in how it is perceived are HÚGE. You like the image, you buy the watch. You don´t, well, then not.
Ok, now... where did I leave my Poljot Sturmanski Gagarin replica with alarm .....?
What watch do you wear with the black Waffen SS uniform then? :mrgreen:Originally Posted by captainhowdy
He may have been a very bad man, but at least he had good taste.Originally Posted by dkpw
Originally Posted by HuertecillaPresumably you meant inanimate? :lol:Inate
Inborn, inherited; existing or determined by factors present from birth; congenital.
I'm just a very naughty boy.
Good deals with- VINSTINK, kevkojak, Optimum, Omegary, seikoking, acg, SPEEDY, kfman, Card Shark, wajhart, Jot, danboy, zenomega, gaz64, minke, Mal52, Alas, norfolkngood, Sparky, rdwiow, mrteatime, gravedodger, joeytheghost, lordoftheflies, Silver Hawk, Filterlab, brooksy, marmisto, Fray Bentos, Bootsy, Harvey69, Mantisgb, bristolboozer, Jedadiah, newtohorology, Zephod, jimm1, Draygo, Raptor.
I may have forgot one or two, apppologies.
Something from the Hello Kitty range :DOriginally Posted by vaizki
Originally Posted by vaizki
A Beobachtungsuhr Fur Die, made in 1940 by Lange - a 65mm observation watch:
Originally Posted by vaizki
When it's 6.05, he exclaims, "Heil, Hitler!"
Omega bases its marketing on the fact that one of its "ambassadors" is the world's most famous serial killer.
If Mengeler wore a Seiko, it was post WW2, I expect. He may also have worn black shoes.
Originally Posted by shadowninja
Don't knock it, I only borrowed it for a fancy dress party, from Prince Harry. :lol: :D
:lol: :lol:Originally Posted by Scottishtrunkmonkey
Do you know which watch Hermann Goering was wearing during the war?
I could start a WWII baddy collection :D
Cheers,
Daddel.
Got a new watch, divers watch it is, had to drown the bastard to get it!
Is that real?Originally Posted by Lomax99
Why are the minute numerals mirror image?
Why would it be marked SS? They didn't have any aircraft.
Cheers,
Neil.
I think many people felt the same TBH and wouldn't touch Jap products after their appalling war record.Originally Posted by shadowninja
Understandable if you had been involved.
Cheers,
Neil.
My thoughts as well. Looks like a fake, but why would you put the numbers like that, in mirror image? :?Originally Posted by Neil.C
Because it is NOT a B-uhr but a time piece that was placed in field measuring equipment as to have the time on the foto´s.Originally Posted by angeche
It was not meant to be worn and was kept is a special case.
The use and way of storage are documented on film.
A bit of an enigma why they made in as a wristwatch.
Never to old to learn :)Originally Posted by Huertecilla
Cheers,
Daddel.
Got a new watch, divers watch it is, had to drown the bastard to get it!
The mind works like a parachute; best open.Originally Posted by Daddelvirks
That's some good info, thanks. :)Originally Posted by Huertecilla
Still not sure about the W-SS on the dial though.
May have been done to push up the price? :twisted:
Cheers,
Neil.
There are several homages of this design. All quite a lot smaller, some half mirrored only.Originally Posted by angeche
The Aristo ´sextant´ is one.
Price?Originally Posted by Neil.C
They were not for sale but special order only for ....... Waffen SS :idea:
Isn't Goering supposed to have owned a Reverso?
Eddie
Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".
So the army never used them then?Originally Posted by Huertecilla
I only mentioned it as anything with SS markings is worth far more and people are not averse to "altering" stuff.
Cheers,
Neil.
Don't know about fatty, but they were standard issue to Italian tank drivers.Originally Posted by swanbourne
Saw Hitler on History channel the other night and he checked a pocket watch he had in his top pocket on a chain to his lapel.
Wonder what it was?
Cheers,
Neil.
Didn't he wear a BallOriginally Posted by Neil.C
I believe it was the only watch he owned, they even wrote a song about it.
I'll get my coat
It was definitely a one off!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
This thread has interestingly turned into "watches of the axis leaders" :lol:
Cheers,
Neil.
[quote=Neil.C][quote=Huertecilla][quote="Neil.C":r46am6o3]
Still not sure about the W-SS on the dial though.
May have been done to push up the price? :twisted:[/quote]
Price?
They were not for sale but special order only for ....... Waffen SS :idea:[/quote]
So the army never used them then?
I only mentioned it as anything with SS markings is worth [b]far [/b] more and people are not averse to "altering" stuff.[/quote:r46am6o3]
If it's wrong, then it's down to the german author, Henning Mutzlitz, of the book he has just published - 'A. Lange & Sohne Highlights'
[url="http://www.amazon.com/Lange-Sohne-Highlights/dp/386852231X"]http://www.amazon.com/Lange-Sohne-Highl ... 386852231X[/url]
It's shown on page 21, with an estimated value of 25,000 euros.
An A. Lange & Sohne watch is definately on my list, however I have no intention of tracking down one of these!
[/quote:1g8j31vw]Originally Posted by Neil.C
That is outside of my world I am happy to observe.
The watch in question is original, extremely rare, and the far smaller ´homages´ definitely NOT marked with anything third Reich.
I do wonder though why the antipathy against the japanese and at the same time a massive popularity of B-uhr at al? even soviet stuff!!
Xenophobia :idea:
To me they are watches. Inate contemporary artefacts. Just like archeology whereas history is a collection of highly subjective accounts of hidden agendas by a non representative part of the population.
Watches carry history with them whatever one thinks, which is why military issued watches are so sought after.Originally Posted by Huertecilla
As regards the Japanese, far from xenophobia any cursory examination of the abominations they committed against helpless POWS will surely sicken any right thinking person and in the years following WWII there was indeed great antipathy to them and fully understandable IMO.
The Germans although guilty of atrocities generally treated allied POWS reasonably.
We never fought the Russians.
Cheers,
Neil.
Observers wristwatches pre-1945 or so, often had the #s and markers reversed because they were seen in a mirror on a sighting device and thus the #s were seen as correct when the watch was used for its intended purpose.Originally Posted by Neil.C
I did six years voluntary ex-service welfare work after leaving the army and had the honour to meet and work with quite a few FEPOW's and many of them would not buy anything made by the Japanese. All of the ones I knew had been captured at the fall of Singapore, after fighting the length of Malaya and spent most of their captivity in KINKASEKI Copper Mine in Taiwan.Originally Posted by shadowninja
If you get the chance read the books Banzai, You Bastards! by Jack Edwards and Out Of The Depths Of Hell which was written by my former next door neighbour John McEawn.
Brian
http://www.private-eye.co.uk/covers.php?showme=1124Originally Posted by captainhowdy
Cheers,
Deryck
You should see what happens in some of the dive centres I've been in. :blackeye:Originally Posted by Neil.C
R
Ignorance breeds Fear. Fear breeds Hatred. Hatred breeds Ignorance. Break the chain.
[quote=Neil.C]So the army never used them then?Originally Posted by Huertecilla
I only mentioned it as anything with SS markings is worth far more and people are not averse to "altering" stuff.[/quote:2drmly4h]
Don`t confuse the Waffen SS with Hitlers elite. The Waffen SS expanded through the war to include many conscripts from countries only too willing to fight the Russians after suffering at their hands during occupation. Towards the end of the war the Waffen SS consisted of more non Germans than Germans !
I’ve put some stuff on one of Goering’s watches here:Originally Posted by swanbourne
Universal Geneve
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If it’s the same scene I am thinking of … it’s not a pocket watch but a wristwatch on a strap. He didn’t like wearing wristwatches so he kept his in the top left pocket of his jacket. I believe somebody said it was a Junghans but I can find no references to it.Originally Posted by Neil.C
"In 1940 the Waffen-SS ordered Lange, to develop an observation watch with a large diameter of the dial and for photographic purposes with additional mirrored indication. The supply should be 10 watches per month starting in March 1941. Watch no. 215819 send on 20.12.1943 to the SS Artillery School in Glau." (From Knirim.)
john
Costume jewellery. Ouch!!!
Indeed. My grandfathers brother was one of them I've understood (no, they were not nazis either). He survived but nearly 1000 of 1200 were killed, wounded or lost: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Vo ... _Waffen-SSOriginally Posted by Maris
Good work John, very interesting, nice to see a pic.Originally Posted by abraxas
So Hitlers watch remains a mystery.
Cheers,
Neil.
This is well known.Originally Posted by Maris
Apart from people who had suffered under the Russians like the Finns there was a very healthy intake of Europeans, Danes, French etc who simply believed in the aryan ideals.
Cheers,
Neil.
Don't forget the Brits! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Free_CorpsOriginally Posted by Neil.C
Hitler's elite was part of the Waffen-SS, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_SS_Div ... olf_Hitler
Yeah I read about that recently. Only a very tiny amount joined from POW camps, some probably just to get out.Originally Posted by Gunscrossed
Amery the ringleader was hung.
Cheers,
Neil.
That''s not very macho, is it? :)Originally Posted by swanbourne
Cheers,
Daddel.
Got a new watch, divers watch it is, had to drown the bastard to get it!
Originally Posted by Neil.C
On a serious note:
Again on a separate note ... how to use a watch to intimidate:
Before, his death, it is said that Hitler gave to Goebbels his own wrist watch ...
Joseph Goebbels "The Poison Dwarf"
http://www.holocaustresearchproject.org ... bbels.html
johnGoebbels would sit in the Editor’s chair. He would habitually take off his wrist watch and place it on the desk in front of him, saying that he could only spare seven or eight minutes ...
Mugabe's own Goebbels
http://www.zimbabwesituation.com/sep1a_2004.html#link5
Costume jewellery. Ouch!!!