Reply With Quote+1 on the above. The DN looks better with a larger arrowhead on the 24HR hand. The SBIII would look better with a smaller arrowhead.
I don't remember who made this desing. It was on of many when this was discussed years back.Originally Posted by swanbourne
I'm rarely 100% sure about anything :wink: . What would you do?
Eddie
But I like the bigger triangle at the end that is just the size of the minute track. Also the black arm on the gmt hand makes it dissappear on the dial which looks quite 8) IMO
Very balanced desing and still looks very much like the original DN
+1 on the above. The DN looks better with a larger arrowhead on the 24HR hand. The SBIII would look better with a smaller arrowhead.
Silly question
Is the DN GMT going to be the same hi-spec watch as the original (albeit with a different movement), or are we discussing a completely new version?
I am for the DN GMT, but it ainīt gonna be cheap, for sure, if it has the same specs as the original....
I've been trying to think why I'm not too keen on the SB version.
I think the whole beauty of these watches is the simple uncluttered dial, and for me the 24 hour dial not only detracts from that, but the fact that it is contrasted almost highlights it. The orange hand then draws the eye to it further especially as the arrow part is rather large.
I would prefer a more discreet colour hand (green or red maybe) with the 24 hour markers discreetly written on the outer edge.
I quite like the explorer-esque design but agree it's been done to death.
The DN version is an absolute winner as it stands and I can feel some OCD constant refreshing of this site coming on until I have one in my possession :roll: :D :D
Just a superquick and superdirty..... not even the numbers are there, but you get the idea.I'm rarely 100% sure about anything :wink: . What would you do?
Eddie
The black ring on the dial is UV coated.
I'm not as think as you drunk I am.
What grade are the movements?
Not really - more prefer the jet-set traveller's way of doing but by no means all. And besides, even if watch design was democratic, that kind of movement simply isn't available off the shelf.
TBH I can think of few watches that say "bone-dry desk diver" more than a diver that's also a GMT. People who dive don't need to know what hour it is, let alone what hour it is in New York or Zurich, and travellers don't need thousands of m of WR in a huge case unless they're trying to establish cred in a high-powered breakfast meeting etc. If it was me I would put a GMT movement in a watch worn by people who like to know two timezones at once - but as it ain't no democracy, I look forward to being surprised :)
...but what do I know; I don't even like watches!
Cant wait for this project to materialise 8)
That's the current thinking.
Eddie
Then please change my number to 20. Wanted to match my DN # but thats OK.
I'd take an SBIII GMT, that'll be a stunner :)
+1 for the DN GMT
Or a SE for our Scottish members. :mrgreen:
01 of 69.
I'm not as think as you drunk I am.
I suppose the pleas for a Dreadnought are predictable, but it would be the SB3 GMT for me.
However, I agree with the comments that the dial could be toned down a little, maybe with green instead of orange. Also, is the font on the 24hr ring different to the 12hr? The 12hr font, as used on the non-GMT SB3, is a bit retro in style, whereas the 24hr looks more contemporary. I really like the current retro SB3 look, but perhaps the GMT could use the contemporary font throughout?
The font will be the same, I just couldn't find the exact one when I was doing the mock-up.
Eddie
Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".
Eddie,
assuming you will be doing limited edition numbers, is it possible you will be taking advance requests for 'number x of y?
R
Ignorance breeds Fear. Fear breeds Hatred. Hatred breeds Ignorance. Break the chain.
Or a SE for our Scottish members. :mrgreen:
01 of 69.
Now that I like :D
Cheers
Simon
Ralph Waldo Emerson: We ask for long life, but 'tis deep life, or noble moments that signify. Let the measure of time be spiritual, not mechanical.
They will all have serial numbers but I haven't decided whether they will be limited yet. Movement availability (or lack of) will dictate the numbers made more than commercial considerations.
Eddie
Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".
Put me down for a DN GMT, any number I'm not fussed.
Not sure I can afford it but I'll find the money somehow? :)
SBIII GMT could also be nice, but I prefer my GMT's as divers.
It's an interesting question as I recall Eddie saying that he's long since given up taking 'dibs' for numbers and indeed any deposits (I wasn't around back then but did Eddie take deposits for the original DN?). With numbers limited to the availability of movements I would guess it will be a bit of a scramble if/when things become available, could it turn into the first 50 SBIII thing where they oversold and some folk were disappointed... :(They will all have serial numbers but I haven't decided whether they will be limited yet. Movement availability (or lack of) will dictate the numbers made more than commercial considerations.
Eddie
It's going to be fun no matter what... put me down for DN GMT #76 just in case though ;)
Yes, please. DN GMT #10 for me.
DN-GMT #13 just in case.
In for a penny and all that :D
DN-GMT #66 please.
If the production only goes to fifty, #22 tar very much :wink:
DN-GMT #35 please :lol: :lol:
This is ridiculous!!!!!!
Eddie merely mentions a shipment of movements and you lot are all trying to pick off numbers when you don't even know there will be any - nor how many if there are!
Pathetic, the lot of you. :roll:
Get a grip, FFS. :evil:
R
(Number 34 please, Eddie
Ignorance breeds Fear. Fear breeds Hatred. Hatred breeds Ignorance. Break the chain.
:D
I care not a jot what number I get just as long as I actually get one, looks like it's going to be fun :D
Cheers
Simon
Ralph Waldo Emerson: We ask for long life, but 'tis deep life, or noble moments that signify. Let the measure of time be spiritual, not mechanical.
That's good news...i'll take both of them, #09 for Sb3 Gmt, and #08 for DN Gmt please :lol:
That's the current thinking.
Eddie
How did i miss this for so long? Dreadnought GMT. Superb!
For what it's worth, number 43 please. :)
Here's hoping :wink:
Number 16 of the DN for me :D
I can see someone developing software to recognise when they go on sale.... and snap them up .... an auction sniper for Time Factors : Speedbird for me please and I wouls not say no the the special Scotish edition :lol: :lol: :lol:
Oh fcuk it... just to be safe.
DN #40 please, squire :lol:
DN-GMT for me, and I don't care about what number it is. Just let me know when it is cash time.
I love the idea of the DN Gmt and would be my choice over the SB3 GMT.
However i think the orange tipped GMT hand on the DN needs some further consideration as when the orange GMT hand coincides with the orange minute hand (which they will for a few minutes each hour) they will become IMO indistinguishable from each other. Checking the GMT time at a glance wouldnt be possible. While it looks good it isnt good design.
Wonder what other people think? For me i would buy the DN GMT in a heartbeat if this was sorted.
The DN GMT in particular looks superb
I think the SBIII verson needs some refinement to make the GMT addition as subtle as possible. The DN looks absolutely superb but there is no way my 7" wrist could take a watch that is 54mm lug to lug :(
Would the DN GMT use the same sized case as the original and any idea as to what the cost would be?
PS - Would be interested in #33 if I can raise funds
I have a 6.75" wrist and have been wearing my Dreadnought every day for the last 2.5 weeks since getting it. I have no problems at all with the size.
Eddie
Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".
Very cool (and seems a bit further along than the DN GMT). Is the 'Speedbird' and 'GMT' going to be printed on the dial or is that just for reference on the image?
So there will be a date at 3?
I have to open this discussion again: placement of the 7 and 8 digits on the dial. It seems to me, having studied my SBIII in detail and compared with my SBII that with the serif font on the SBIII the 7 and 8 should align with the very left hand edge of the serif in the 10 and 11, not be centred under them. That would remove the distance discrepancy that exists.
It looks like the date will now be at the 3 position. Is there a reason why it has been moved from 6, perhaps the movement doesn't allow it to be at 6? If that's the case then it's a shame, I think 6 is a much better position than 3.
Eddie
"I forget who it was that recommended men for their soul's good to do each day two things they disliked ... it is a precept that I have followed scrupulously; for every day I have got up and I have gone to bed."
You mean like that?
I'm not as think as you drunk I am.
Yup. Precisely.
Agreed, IMO the black GMT hand with the big arrowhead on the mockup works better than the all orange one shown in the top photo - whether that can be changed is a question for the big cheese to answer :D
I can clearly see there is a difference but you're going to have to explain to me what's been moved and why.
Eddie
Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".
Odd. You've moved the 4 and 5?
I leave that to Glamdring, I was just executing his idea ;-)
I'm not as think as you drunk I am.
This was my attempt a couple of years ago to illustrate the alignment issue:
I am not sure how helpful this is but it does appear to show that the 10, 8, 7 and 4 numerals are perhaps shifted too far to the right on the SBIII. The asymmetry is certainly something I am sensitive to and, rational or not, is perhaps the only reason I have not bought one of these watches.
Martin
I thought I had the answer but as usual I'm wrong. I know the SBII has no misalignment so I put it down to the different fonts used.
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