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    Alternatives to a Rolex Submariner non-date 14060M COSC

    Having decided to stick with Sapphire dive watches and recently selling and posting off virtually all of my vintage watches in the last year (one will never go and one probably to be posted out within the next week), I've been meaning to add a COSC 14060M. However, there is a voice in my head saying "do something different this time". So... In order to appease the voices so I can at least tell myself I've considered alternatives, can anyone come up with some real options that I need to think about before I go for it.

    If not I'm simply after a 14060M COSC I guess and I'll need to resurrect an old unanswered WTB :cry: :D
    It's just a matter of time...

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    Re: Alternatives to a Rolex Submariner non-date 14060M COSC

    Scott
    Buy a Seiko MM300, great watch mate and will give a Rolex a very good run for it's money.
    I love mine and have just bought a 6105 to accompany it.
    Neil

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    Re: Alternatives to a Rolex Submariner non-date 14060M COSC

    Is it to stick in the safe or wear?

    Too much choice made or opinion given recently on the forum in respect of retention of value, in which case the Rolex will win.

    If it's to wear, what parameters do we have?

    Same price range, same size, daily wearer etc., etc,

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    Re: Alternatives to a Rolex Submariner non-date 14060M COSC

    There are no alternatives to a Rolex Submariner 14060M COSC and you are a man on a mission. :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by burnsey66
    Is it to stick in the safe or wear?

    Too much choice made or opinion given recently on the forum in respect of retention of value, in which case the Rolex will win.

    If it's to wear, what parameters do we have?

    Same price range, same size, daily wearer etc., etc,
    Good point.

    All are to wear - any size Sub and up (within reason) same specs black dialled diver might narrow it down - but open to outside / leftfield too. So, at least 200m 40mm-45mm but capable of daily wear - would look to buy used so value retention in case I hate it but long term value not so important (would be nice though). Price up to £3k but would not discount much cheaper.

    Neil's suggestion of the MM300 is now top of my alternative list and I am sure I will add one as it have to be worth a circa £1k try out.

    There are no alternatives to a Rolex Submariner 14060M COSC and you are a man on a mission.
    If the alternative comes in at MM300 money I might be able to have both (I think I'd sacrifice one of my 14060's to add the COSC version and then have the choice).
    It's just a matter of time...

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    Re: Alternatives to a Rolex Submariner non-date 14060M COSC

    What about one of these?

    pic stolen from web.

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    Re: Alternatives to a Rolex Submariner non-date 14060M COSC

    The ONLY real alternative is an IWC 3536.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josh B
    The ONLY real alternative is an IWC 3536.
    A very good alternative and in real terms - so much more than a 14060 sub.
    It's just a matter of time...

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    Re: Alternatives to a Rolex Submariner non-date 14060M COSC

    I'd sooner get that than another 14060. Unless your collection is aiming for a full house of variants of subs and SDs (which is a cool collecting aim) i would aim for something along the lines of the great divers which would include the 3536, a FF and possibly a JLC diver too in addition to the Rolexes.

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    Re: Alternatives to a Rolex Submariner non-date 14060M COSC

    I saw one of these the other day & was impressed, might be worth a look.
    Breitling Superocean Heritage


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    Re: Alternatives to a Rolex Submariner non-date 14060M COSC

    Quote Originally Posted by numberjack
    What about one of these?

    pic stolen from web.
    How much for one of them?

    Not taken on the;
    It's just a matter of time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omegamanic
    ...can anyone come up with some real options that I need to think about before I go for it.
    A non COSC 14060M.

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    Re: Alternatives to a Rolex Submariner non-date 14060M COSC

    Quote Originally Posted by Omegamanic
    Quote Originally Posted by numberjack
    What about one of these?

    pic stolen from web.
    How much for one of them?

    Not taken on the;
    That ones on chrono24 at about £2700 from a US seller, maybe about 3k if you find one in the UK?

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    Re: Alternatives to a Rolex Submariner non-date 14060M COSC

    link me happy please? sounds rather cheap it must be said!

    one other contender - what about a Panerai, say a 112?

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    Re: Alternatives to a Rolex Submariner non-date 14060M COSC

    Omega 2254.50 - It's a COSC watch, 41mm and the coolest looking sword hands in the world (which make up for the out of place HE valve).

    If you don't like it you can easily flip it and prices are trending up.

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    yeah it's a great watch

    Quote Originally Posted by neilf1965
    Scott
    Buy a Seiko MM300, great watch mate and will give a Rolex a very good run for it's money.
    I love mine and have just bought a 6105 to accompany it.
    Neil

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    Re: Alternatives to a Rolex Submariner non-date 14060M COSC

    Have you got a 14060 tritium?

    Cheers,
    Neil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saxon007
    Omega 2254.50 - It's a COSC watch, 41mm and the coolest looking sword hands in the world (which make up for the out of place HE valve).

    If you don't like it you can easily flip it and prices are trending up.
    Indeed - I feel greedy having three of them sat at home :D

    NeilC - I don't think I do have a Trit dial 14060 - I was sure I did but after seeing your post I got the out and there is a "Swiss" only, and the two Swiss Made - I must have been confusing the 5513 - so now I have to add the T25 Swiss and a COSC to complete - what have you done! I still think I'll add a Marine Master 300 though - but...

    it might have to wait a month or two, as I have just got my quotes for my 5 weeks in Australia through this morning and need to make sure I get the Price quoted - thank goodness no-one accepted an offer from me yesterday :D
    It's just a matter of time...

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    Re: Alternatives to a Rolex Submariner non-date 14060M COSC

    Quote Originally Posted by Josh B
    link me happy please? sounds rather cheap it must be said!

    one other contender - what about a Panerai, say a 112?
    Hope this works, a bit more than I originally thought but worth every penny ino
    http://www.chrono24.com/en/blancpain...ch%2Findex.htm

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    Re: Alternatives to a Rolex Submariner non-date 14060M COSC

    Thanks for that! Seems like some pretty decent prices on those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josh B
    Thanks for that! Seems like some pretty decent prices on those.
    Doesn't it just!
    It's just a matter of time...

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    Re: Alternatives to a Rolex Submariner non-date 14060M COSC

    Tempting indeed! Although I'm guessing servicing costs etc will be substantively higher than for a Rolex which in itself is not a major deal but in the context of a collection starts to ramp up costs big time. Not sure how much of an issue that is for you.

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    Re: Alternatives to a Rolex Submariner non-date 14060M COSC

    Quote Originally Posted by simonrah
    There are no alternatives to a Rolex Submariner 14060M COSC and you are a man on a mission. :D
    I agree, there are no alternatives. My wife has one and it is, in my opinion, the most beautiful dial that Rolex make. I absolutely love it.

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    Really like the Breitling's pictured but not sure about those straps, look a bit girly to me!http://www.tz-uk.com/forum/posting.p...&f=1&t=184628#

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    Re: Alternatives to a Rolex Submariner non-date 14060M COSC

    Ok, so far the options have me buying - at some point;

    A Rolex 14060 - trit dial
    A Rolex 14060M COSC dial
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    a Marine Master 300 - all sounds good to me and I am pleased I have a MM300 to track down 8)
    It's just a matter of time...

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    Re: Alternatives to a Rolex Submariner non-date 14060M COSC

    What about a Bremont Supermarine although it sounds like you really want the rolex deep down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgeddes
    What about a Bremont Supermarine although it sounds like you really want the rolex deep down.
    Supermarine - very nice (I'll never get over the day date in a diver - but I would have one) only in consideration at the "right" price - there are a few things I pick holes in with this watch - but even taking those into account I still really liked the watch.

    Deep down - I'll be getting the Rolex, but I have expected that to happen anyway, the main thing is that I will now be buying another watch as well - so still looking for ideas, only they won't be so much an alternative (well they will when it is a choice of which to put on), as an addition.
    It's just a matter of time...

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    Re: Alternatives to a Rolex Submariner non-date 14060M COSC

    Quote Originally Posted by Josh B
    Tempting indeed! Although I'm guessing servicing costs etc will be substantively higher than for a Rolex which in itself is not a major deal but in the context of a collection starts to ramp up costs big time. Not sure how much of an issue that is for you.
    I had my GMT version serviced about 18 months ago with new sapphire the cost was £595 which isn't to far away from what Rolex would charge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numberjack
    Quote Originally Posted by Josh B
    Tempting indeed! Although I'm guessing servicing costs etc will be substantively higher than for a Rolex which in itself is not a major deal but in the context of a collection starts to ramp up costs big time. Not sure how much of an issue that is for you.
    I had my GMT version serviced about 18 months ago with new sapphire the cost was £595 which isn't to far away from what Rolex would charge.
    oouch! £600 for servicing is starting to get painful - my last Rolex was £255 with a new crown.
    It's just a matter of time...

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    Re: Alternatives to a Rolex Submariner non-date 14060M COSC

    how about mkii kingston? there will certainly be a few in various sales corners as they get to their respective owners (300 of them to be precise)

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    Re: Alternatives to a Rolex Submariner non-date 14060M COSC

    Sinn U2? Or a bit too "tool"?
    it's a lot cheaper and a great watch for the money

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nono
    Sinn U2? Or a bit too "tool"?
    it's a lot cheaper and a great watch for the money
    I like the look, a lot - but just not up to it in the quality and finish states for my liking these days.
    It's just a matter of time...

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    Re: Alternatives to a Rolex Submariner non-date 14060M COSC

    ok, maybe this then. My favorite IWC, the IW371928 Aquatimer chrono. Not 200m, only 120m but fully capable Dive watch.


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    Sorry, should have said - definitely no chronos - I have one, have tried many - will probably only ever have one model chrono.
    It's just a matter of time...

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    Re: Alternatives to a Rolex Submariner non-date 14060M COSC

    As mentioned, the Omega SMP 2254.50 or any of the similar version would work. Also the blue or black Bond models.

    Bremont would be a good choice.

    Otherwise, there are hundreds of microbrew divers to choose from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Rooney
    As mentioned, the Omega SMP 2254.50 or any of the similar version would work. Also the blue or black Bond models.

    Bremont would be a good choice.

    Otherwise, there are hundreds of microbrew divers to choose from.
    I have at least one of each of the 2254, 2531, blue bond and black bond co-ax models and a selection of micro divers have either been tried and moved or remain. so examples - maybe even with pics would be helpful.

    Looking for a high quality piece as a true alternative to, rather than a - what could I buy.
    It's just a matter of time...

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    Re: Alternatives to a Rolex Submariner non-date 14060M COSC

    Quote Originally Posted by Omegamanic
    Sorry, should have said - definitely no chronos - I have one, have tried many - will probably only ever have one model chrono.
    No problem

    Maybe a Ball Spacemaster? Rugged, diver, can be worn on dressy occasions.

    Borrowed pictures


    And there is the clasp...



    ...oh yeah, and monster lume ;)


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    I do like the look of the clasp on that Ball - couple of things. I've never seen a Ball I would buy (not fussed on the tubes either) and I would never buy a diver with a day-date function - which also ruled out the rather nice Supermarine for me.
    It's just a matter of time...

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    Re: Alternatives to a Rolex Submariner non-date 14060M COSC

    ok, next in line..

    IWC Vintage Aquatimer



    I know, i know, only 120m WR, but that watch is perfect :)
    One is for sale for just under $5k ( i don't know if i can write were, check WatchRecon)

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    Now that looks fantastic! 8)
    It's just a matter of time...

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    US only sale though and 20% VAT put me off.
    It's just a matter of time...

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    Re: Alternatives to a Rolex Submariner non-date 14060M COSC

    Quote Originally Posted by Omegamanic
    Now that looks fantastic! 8)
    Im glad we are one the right track ;)

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    the vintage aquatimer is definitely a piece i would be taking as well, along with the 16600 seadweller :)

    has it been discontinued by iwc long ago?

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    Re: Alternatives to a Rolex Submariner non-date 14060M COSC

    How about a vintage Tudor Snowflake sub?
    There's a cracking example for sale on Ebay at the moment - including all the bits.

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TUDOR-Subm...item2313a0f773

    I have no connection to the seller at all by the way.

    Good luck with your search

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    Re: Alternatives to a Rolex Submariner non-date 14060M COSC

    How about one of these, very good looking IMO and left field too :)




    Or non chrono version:


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