Reply With QuoteI was under the impression that £5530 is the current list price for the new explorer.
Just had the call for the new EXPII and despite being originally told it was going to cost £5,170 it's now going to be £5,530! This says to me that an across the range rise is coming as the EXPII will not be priced higher than a GMTIIc or Subc but a bit below it.
I was under the impression that £5530 is the current list price for the new explorer.
The sun sets, the sun rises. Rolex prices go up almost at the same frequency.
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Daddel.
Got a new watch, divers watch it is, had to drown the bastard to get it!
Exactly the same response when I hear about the latest five-grand limited-edition Omega [s:1dkfkgq3]Yawnm[/s:1dkfkgq3]Speedmaster ;). A price rise for a watch that has barely hit the UK's shores and after the Swiss franc has just nosedived, isn't surprising; it's inevitable.Originally Posted by Daddelvirks
...but what do I know; I don't even like watches!
Well if it is £5500 then I am in two minds whether or not to go pick mine up - may well just say thanks but no thanks - they did the same with the Deep Sea! maybe my AD will sort something out for me - but I suspect he will sell to the next person lined up :(
It's just a matter of time...
He He :evil: !Exactly the same response when I hear about the latest five-grand limited-edition Omega [s:dj475fhp]Yawnm[/s:dj475fhp]Speedmaster ;). A price rise for a watch that has barely hit the UK's shores and after the Swiss franc has just nosedived, isn't surprising; it's inevitable.
Leave my five grand limited edition Speedy out of it.......... :D
Daddel.
Got a new watch, divers watch it is, had to drown the bastard to get it!
Rolex really do not align their prices with inflation - their cost index must be from another planet!!! :evil:
I have no problem with the price rises - it just makes some other models stand out as the bargains they have been for a while.
It's just a matter of time...
I'm past the point of caring now
All the luxury brands are just plain crazy.
How much ! I have my name down for one of these, but these price rises are taking the P...
John
Still, always a good long term investment!
There is a topic on here about brand image and reality.
Rolex has the image of an exclusive watch for the wealthy who made it.
In reality it is for misers who drool over re-sale value and moan about price rises.
Which ones are they then?I have no problem with the price rises - it just makes some other models stand out as the bargains they have been for a while.
I'm glad I bought mine when I did. No way I could have afforded one now :(
Try as I might, on hearing this rumour (together with the COMEX auction thread) I now can't get rid of a mental image of a certain Mr. Woods - he of TOWS; dressed all in black, sat in front of a map of the world, with certain cities all lit-up, stroking a white cat, laughing manically :roll:
Guess it must be the drugs I'm on? :shock:
Regards M.
yeah; prices are just crazy
tried on a Navitimer yesterday that was north of £5k !!! for a leather strapped Navi..... 4 years ago it was about £2,400
i suppose if you had bought in 2007 it was like investing in Swiss Francs ....... not sure you can say the same thing in 2011
May I add that also goes for every other brand! :evil:
Yep... and it gives me the oppurtunity to try more of the micro brand watches. Not easy being a student and having luxury brand watches :lol:I'm past the point of caring now
All the luxury brands are just plain crazy.
I don't disagree, but Rolex rises appear to cause the most angst & indeed schadenfreude, probablyMay I add that also goes for every other brand! :evil:
because they are the yardstick by which others are judged on this board.
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Only by a minority hardcore that just happens to be ´loudly´ present.
If they would be a more broadly used yardstick instead of just for their own game quite a few other brands would sell big holes into the Rolex presence here.
I've written before that Rolex sports models are grossly over-represented on TZ-UK compared to the "real world". But it is a watch forum & perhapsOnly by a minority hardcore that just happens to be ´loudly´ present.
If they would be a more broadly used yardstick instead of just for their own game quite a few other brands would sell big holes into the Rolex presence here.
that should be expected.
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Jim.
I agree, the only reason the SD have increased in price is the hysteria that a few have created, it was never a highly sought after piece until someone perceived it might gain value meaning that they are buying and owning for one of the worst reasons
RIAC
Meh... I have gone past the point of caring. I will not stop me from buying the one I want.
Im pretty sure I'm done with Rolex for the rest of 2011.... Let's see what mr Rolex brings out at Basel 2012 :lol:
If they bring out a 42mm new sub or Sd next year at Basel alot of us will be running to the AD to put a deposit down no matter what the price, its just the way of the world :lol:
I think thats a bit strong and i know i m a big Rolex fan but just look at the prices of what Rolex S/S Sports are fetching on ebay and what some dealers are asking and getting for subs and Sea Dwellers and the like ,fact of the matter is that dealers are asking north of £4k on Sea Dwellers and they re not lasting more than a couple of days maybe a week .I've written before that Rolex sports models are grossly over-represented on TZ-UK compared to the "real world". But it is a watch forum & perhapsOnly by a minority hardcore that just happens to be ´loudly´ present.
If they would be a more broadly used yardstick instead of just for their own game quite a few other brands would sell big holes into the Rolex presence here.
that should be expected.
I m no expert but surely the Explorers are good value at the minute and i ve never been a big fan i admit but after owning one they really are a nice piece at sensible money at the moment (you have been warned :roll: )
Wont be long till the ExpIIs are 3k, as soon as everyone gets their new models and post pics all over the net everyone will love the look and want to buy!
What is? It's not clear whether you're referring to something I wrote or to something Huertecilla posted.
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Jim.
We haven`t had a 'Rolex price rise coming' thread for at least 3 weeks....started thinking that maybe it won`t happen.
Don`t forget that the Swiss Franc has effectively been devalued recently; thus removing some of the pressure for an increase.....I think.
Rolex ADs love to keep the 'imminent price rise' rumour running......can`t think why :)
I certainly won`t be rushing out to buy one!
Paul
I would only disagree slightly with this - but the SD used to have a 2 year waiting list on average in the UK. Whereas a sub could usually be had within 6 months - so it was always sought after by quite a few people but the amounts sold weren't that high compared to Subs, which use the same movement, so I guess it made sense to sell a cheaper watch and make roughly the same amount of money/profit - or offer a much more expensive Deep Sea.
The funny thing is 5 years or so ago not many people could buy an SD for less the RRP - now they are selling for less than their last RRP, which I believe was back in 2008!
It's just a matter of time...
Firstly and foremost, what gets stated on here and other fora has jack $hit influence on any watch manufacturer's marketing and pricing strategy!I've written before that Rolex sports models are grossly over-represented on TZ-UK compared to the "real world". But it is a watch forum & perhapsOnly by a minority hardcore that just happens to be ´loudly´ present.
If they would be a more broadly used yardstick instead of just for their own game quite a few other brands would sell big holes into the Rolex presence here.
that should be expected.
Secondly, I do not believe or endorse that they are any yardstick by 'loud' people or any others. The Rolex brand relies not one bit on what 'watch enthusiasts' think, want or believe - 'we' are the 'given' few, get over it.
When you look long into an abyss, the abyss looks long into you.........
I had the call today about my new Exp II and questioned the price rise as it has gone up from the original price before there is any UK stock. At the new level it is similar to the current price for the GMT IIC and people have said that it should be cheaper.
This did happen a year or so ago when the price of a newly released piece seemed high but then the price rose for all of the others soon after and the new piece settled into the new pricing structure.
Also, the new watch will not be available to me for 2-3 weeks which once again tallies with the fact that the prices are going up very shortly for other models.
Peter
Rolex will raise prices to their maximum potential, that's just capitalism, have a product, sell it at the optimum price, and unfortunately, people are still paying up for them, hell i bought the new Sub LV at full RRP because i'm weak and the green was calling me, plenty more are doing this
You mean you're gonna go all of three months without buying a new Rolex Eric? :shock:
I'll have a tenner with you that you don't make it..... :wink:
on watches.co.uk the new exp II is listed at £5895 :shock:
The Black one they had sold at £6295 :shock:
FWIW, I don't think prices are going up again this year. The Swiss Franc has weakened and there have been two 'rises' this year, albeit one co-inciding with V.A.T going to 20%.
Guess we'll know for sure in a couple of weeks. :)
Precisely! I will never buy another new Rolex or JLC as the opportunistic and galactic greed of high-end watch manufacturers has passed all reasonable boundaries. I know that they can only charge what buyers are prepared to pay but mark my words, buyers will one day 'turn' and bite the manufacturers in their asses and the sooner the better! :evil:I'm past the point of caring now
All the luxury brands are just plain crazy.
it is not just the top end manufacturers though, for example the Omega Planet Ocean at a whopping £4,400!!! It only has a modified ETA 2892-A2 movement FFS! :o
Exactly and well said!!! It's a load of shite, a con and a swindle. As has already been said, we, the esteemed WIS community, are a tiny percentage and have no bearing on what the greedy Suisse want to charge. It also means that the opportunity of a second hand "bargain" has now long gone. I love a nice Rolex but come on............Precisely! I will never buy another new Rolex or JLC as the opportunistic and galactic greed of high-end watch manufacturers has passed all reasonable boundaries. I know that they can only charge what buyers are prepared to pay but mark my words, buyers will one day 'turn' and bite the manufacturers in their asses and the sooner the better! :evil:I'm past the point of caring now
All the luxury brands are just plain crazy.
it is not just the top end manufacturers though, for example the Omega Planet Ocean at a whopping £4,400!!! It only has a modified ETA 2892-A2 movement FFS! :o
^^^Precisely! I will never buy another new Rolex or JLC as the opportunistic and galactic greed of high-end watch manufacturers has passed all reasonable boundaries. I know that they can only charge what buyers are prepared to pay but mark my words, buyers will one day 'turn' and bite the manufacturers in their asses and the sooner the better! :evil:I'm past the point of caring now
All the luxury brands are just plain crazy.
it is not just the top end manufacturers though, for example the Omega Planet Ocean at a whopping £4,400!!! It only has a modified ETA 2892-A2 movement FFS! :o
Agreed :wink:
But I certainly would not rubbish the ETA 2892-A2 movement. It's rated very highly by watch making professional, which has been highlighted before.
http://www.chronometrie.com/eta2892/eta2892.html
I don't think the prices can be justified by ANY of the so called Luxury brands. I can't afford them now, but I have give up caring.
However, win the PR war and you can get away with just about anything :shock:
I though the new Planet ocean had a completly new in house movement.Precisely! I will never buy another new Rolex or JLC as the opportunistic and galactic greed of high-end watch manufacturers has passed all reasonable boundaries. I know that they can only charge what buyers are prepared to pay but mark my words, buyers will one day 'turn' and bite the manufacturers in their asses and the sooner the better! :evil:I'm past the point of caring now
All the luxury brands are just plain crazy.
it is not just the top end manufacturers though, for example the Omega Planet Ocean at a whopping £4,400!!! It only has a modified ETA 2892-A2 movement FFS! :o
you are on Dan!!! :)
You mean you're gonna go all of three months without buying a new Rolex Eric? :shock:
I'll have a tenner with you that you don't make it..... :wink:
Anyone know what the current list on the Milgauss GV is? £5.2k?
exactly how I feel.
Wish I had bought one 10 years ago when I had the opportunity
The old ETA is in house too.
It does, and if A rolex is worth it's money, the new PO is worth what they are asking as well.I though the new Planet ocean had a completly new in house movement.Precisely! I will never buy another new Rolex or JLC as the opportunistic and galactic greed of high-end watch manufacturers has passed all reasonable boundaries. I know that they can only charge what buyers are prepared to pay but mark my words, buyers will one day 'turn' and bite the manufacturers in their asses and the sooner the better! :evil:I'm past the point of caring now
All the luxury brands are just plain crazy.
it is not just the top end manufacturers though, for example the Omega Planet Ocean at a whopping £4,400!!! It only has a modified ETA 2892-A2 movement FFS! :o
I'm not bothering with watches in that price-range anymore.
No shortage of money, but I can't be arsed to pay that much for a watch anymore :) .
Daddel.
Got a new watch, divers watch it is, had to drown the bastard to get it!
I slightly disagree with that. You can go from Panerai & the PAM360 (design cues from Paneristi mods) to any number of boutique divers with a pageFirstly and foremost, what gets stated on here and other fora has jack $hit influence on any watch manufacturer's marketing and pricing strategy!I've written before that Rolex sports models are grossly over-represented on TZ-UK compared to the "real world". But it is a watch forum & perhapsOnly by a minority hardcore that just happens to be ´loudly´ present.
If they would be a more broadly used yardstick instead of just for their own game quite a few other brands would sell big holes into the Rolex presence here.
that should be expected.
on WUS who have asked for input.
Perhaps I should have written "benchmark by which others are judged on this board" rather than "yardstick" (although they mean the same to me!). You're right, Rolex don't seem to want to have a relationship with the WIS market, but I suppose the WIS market for new Rolex is a tiny part of their annual sales. Most WIS will buy on the secondary market, I assume, which doesn't profit the manufacturer directly.
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