Reply With QuotePersonally, I wouldn't buy a Rolex with any modifications. What might be your cup of tea is unlikely to appeal to someone else if you want to move it on and then you've problems stacking up if you want it servicing by Rolex.
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Hi all
I'm after a Rolex Sea Dweller. I think they are great watches and make a great investment. I have found one in the states for a good price but it's been given a custom matte finish and the hands have been swapped. This watch would be perfect but I'm guessing this WOULD NOT make a good investment?
Any thoughts.....?
Personally, I wouldn't buy a Rolex with any modifications. What might be your cup of tea is unlikely to appeal to someone else if you want to move it on and then you've problems stacking up if you want it servicing by Rolex.
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The purer the better, more important is full providence, box, papers, and ideally original receipt to make it 100% complete, no major dings or gouges and youre good but if it hasnt then with a modification it will always raise a element of doubt
RIAC
+1. The modded stuff is not everybody's cup of tea. Buy original.
Avoid the Mods.
Although it may be cheaper in the states, remember about customs tax which you may be caught with when shipping over
Plenty of very good SDs on this forum from time to time so I'd keep a beady eye for one here
Just out of interest what sort of money is it and what does it come with?
RIAC
Unless it is very cheap - I would avoid it.
It's just a matter of time...
One of the things that makes the SD so appeciated is the simplicity and purity of it's original design. Start modding it in any way and it's a bit like painting a moustache on the Mona Lisa.
I'd avoid that one if I where you.
Investment and modifications are oxymorons.
Modifications will, by their nature, appeal to the modifier and a limited number of like minded people.
Investments are things that will increase in value. On the principles of supply and demand, by modification you severely limit demand to the point where it's unlikely you will realise a profit unless you buy very cheaply or get lucky on the sale.
don't touch it, unless its super complete, and cheap enough that you can get it to Rolex for a full service and restoration - probably about a grands worth of work.
Thanks guys. Its up for just under $5000 which isn't exactly cheap! It does look good though. Matte finish, yacht master hands and a red seconds hand. It's got box and papers but I take everyone's point about it appealing to a limited market. Think I'll miss this one and continue the hunt.
What is a reasonable price for a mint dweller with b+p? Also, which serial is the best?
You will find a few about for around £4k - just buy as good a model as you can.
I;ve seen the one you mention and tbh it looks all right, as far as mods go and should be easy to put back to standard. Add in the possible VAT and the price isn't great though.
It's just a matter of time...
I've done a bit of research and now undecided if I want a sd or sub...
You want a SD
RIAC
... and a sub :D
But the sub is 10 a pennyOriginally Posted by anton863
RIAC
& then you need to add multiple variants of each :twisted:
It's just a matter of time...
I personally wouldn't buy a custom Rolex simply because of the issue around resale. I think that the same rules don't necessarily apply to any other brands of watches. Strange eh?
I'm confused as to what I should be looking for.... Lug holes or no lug holes?
This is worth a look:
http://www.subgmt.com/en/vintage_rolex/ ... s-1983.php
Reputable dealer too.
No papers!
RIAC
Isn't that up to your personal taste. What do you like :roll:
I want the newest sd or sub I can afford. I missed a great one in the sc recently. Hopefully another will come up soon.
have you tried one ? i gather your a large bloke, i found them small
So why are you worried about lug holes. Just look for the year of manufacture......easy.
Really, you must be massive :lol:have you tried one ? i gather your a large bloke, i found them small
I'm 6ft5 and I had 2 dwellers. They fit my 15.5 stone frame perfectly
I keep an eye on Blowers website from time to time just as a 'Barometer' as to what is happening Rolex sports wise. Not been there for a month or two but it seems you can't get one on the cheap side of £4700 now. That's a steady climb. I know they will go a bit cheaper on here but the other interesting thing is they seem to be around £1300 pounds higher than an equivelent ND Sub now. It wasn't too long ago that the difference was around £1000.
:lol:Really, you must be massive :lol:have you tried one ? i gather your a large bloke, i found them small
I'm 6ft5 and I had 2 dwellers. They fit my 15.5 stone frame perfectly
Hi guys.
Lots of good advise do far. All i want is the best watch for my money that will increase in value over the years. I'm not a big fella but like big watches - I'm wearing a new breitling seawolf as I write this.
I have decided that I prefer the look of the solid lugs so will look for a post 2006 watch.
Thanks for everyone's input so far.
My mate has a 2006 sd with everything. He wants £4000 if he decides to sell it. Seems that those lucky enough to already have a sd are reluctant to let them go.
Saw a very nice 2008 one in Burlington Arcade yesterday. Was £5,700 but could be bought for £5k i would wager.
Feel free to PM me if you want the details?
Cheers.
:lol: have ever entered into negotiations with a shop in the Burlington Arcade :)
Saw a very nice 2008 one in Burlington Arcade yesterday. Was £5,700 but could be bought for £5k i would wager.
Feel free to PM me if you want the details?
Cheers.
[quote=phil h]:lol: have ever entered into negotiations with a shop in the Burlington Arcade :)[/quote:iqrt8d0s]
Saw a very nice 2008 one in Burlington Arcade yesterday. Was £5,700 but could be bought for £5k i would wager.
Feel free to PM me if you want the details?
Cheers.
As mentioned it was for sale at £5,700 and offered with no negotiation at all for £5,200 yesterday.
I negotiate for a living and if I was a buyer for this particular watch would expect to trim more off the price......and have done so before down Burlington (and Royal) Arcade.
[quote=Gareth-W][quote="phil h":249csaij]:lol: have ever entered into negotiations with a shop in the Burlington Arcade :)[/quote:249csaij]
Saw a very nice 2008 one in Burlington Arcade yesterday. Was £5,700 but could be bought for £5k i would wager.
Feel free to PM me if you want the details?
Cheers.
As mentioned it was for sale at £5,700 and offered with no negotiation at all for £5,200 yesterday.
I negotiate for a living and if I was a buyer for this particular watch would expect to trim more off the price......and have done so before down Burlington (and Royal) Arcade.[/quote:249csaij]
With repect, even at £5000, it's still over priced, there have been plenty of SDs sold on SC recently for less than £4k, there are 4 currently being advertised at Blowers for £4.5-4.75k with box, papers in one case recent service papers.
True, £5k is London prices but they now start at £4k used on here I imagine, its a piece that will be Red Sub League very soon
RIAC
I'm starting to feel like Chronomasters personal PR officer...
No affiliation at all, but Neil has a '93 Seadweller box and papers for £4,100. He's a stand up guy to deal with and I expect a discount may be offered...?
Maybe not for the OP who wants new as poss and no lug holes, but surely a trit dial SD like this is better than money in the bank? Nothing in life is risk free of course, but can't see anyone losing much on this in the next few years (IMHO obviously)?
Cheers,
Rob
[quote=phil h][quote="Gareth-W":38zcpwvq][quote="phil h":38zcpwvq]:lol: have ever entered into negotiations with a shop in the Burlington Arcade :)[/quote:38zcpwvq]
Saw a very nice 2008 one in Burlington Arcade yesterday. Was £5,700 but could be bought for £5k i would wager.
Feel free to PM me if you want the details?
Cheers.
As mentioned it was for sale at £5,700 and offered with no negotiation at all for £5,200 yesterday.
I negotiate for a living and if I was a buyer for this particular watch would expect to trim more off the price......and have done so before down Burlington (and Royal) Arcade.[/quote:38zcpwvq]
With repect, even at £5000, it's still over priced, there have been plenty of SDs sold on SC recently for less than £4k, there are 4 currently being advertised at Blowers for £4.5-4.75k with box, papers in one case recent service papers.[/quote:38zcpwvq]
Agreed, at £5k it's strong (and I didn't say it wasn't) but negotiating down the Arcade is a) possible and b) to be encouraged :)
I would prefer to buy my Seadweller here as you highlighted.
True, £5k is London prices but they now start at £4k used on here I imagine, its a piece that will be Red Sub League very soon
Agreed. £4k (or perhaps just under that) seems to be where the market starts now. Can also concur that prices can only go North from where they are for the best ones.
Better buy mine sooner than later!!
Neil's went on hold almost as soon as his site update was issued - I should know because I tried to buy it. I'd be surprised if that were no longer the case, particularly as he promised to get back to me should the sale fall through. (I've subsequently brought a newer alternative, so am only mentioning this by way of clarification.)I'm starting to feel like Chronomasters personal PR officer...
No affiliation at all, but Neil has a '93 Seadweller box and papers for £4,100. He's a stand up guy to deal with and I expect a discount may be offered...?
Maybe not for the OP who wants new as poss and no lug holes, but surely a trit dial SD like this is better than money in the bank? Nothing in life is risk free of course, but can't see anyone losing much on this in the next few years (IMHO obviously)?
Cheers,
Rob
Not surprised, it was a great price... :wink:
Perhaps that's the only (very minor) criticism of Neil, he can be slow to update the site, it's not showing as reserved or sold.
Sorry if I misled anyone.
Rob
and doesn't his site also state the price you see if the price you will pay??
The way the SD is going itll be £5k by the end of the year then hopefully itll settle down a bit
RIAC
Possibly, but I've negotiated a discount and a PX deal with Neil before. :wink:
Rob
Possibly, but I've negotiated a discount and a PX deal with Neil before. :wink:
Rob
Good for you, nothing wrong with a little friendly haggling :)
SD forever
Took me a while to 'get it' as my first one just left me empty, I thought the ghost train bracelet was awful, Ive worn it more so this last 2 years on a NATO and find it is becoming a real classic, knowing its no longer avaialble is part of the attraction, cant beat an antique
RIAC
I'm going to thin my collection and get a SD ASAP before they reach crazy prices. Steelfish, Seawolf x2 and Abyss are off to find a new home!
Seems a bit drastic - complete Breitling collection on the block.
It's just a matter of time...
Well, I might keep the seawolfs as they're both brand new, but the steelfish and abyss are looking for new owners.
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