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    AVB & Chelsea - how much time does he have left?

    Looks like things are getting tougher and tougher for the manager and what looks like a dumping out of the CPL makes things worse.

    He's clearly a decent manager, his porto record was second to none but he struggling to get these boys playing so how long has he got? it's not as if the chelski owner is known for his patience :roll:

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    Roman may well take the risk and back him fully in the next transfer window then see what happens. Probably cost him similar to the pay off :roll: Clearly most of the old guard won't play for him and he doesn't seem to be willing to risk playing too many of his up and coming youngsters at once.

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    Re: AVB & Chelsea - how much time does he have left?

    I'd guess until the end of the season. Unless Abramovich has worked out that he needs to build a new side, and it doesn't matter too much if the older established players won't perform. They aren't part of the "project" he's signed up for.

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    Who would want the job if he goes? Surely any decent manager wouldn't touch it.

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    Re: AVB & Chelsea - how much time does he have left?

    Quote Originally Posted by scottbombedout
    Who would want the job if he goes? Surely any decent manager wouldn't touch it.
    well if you believe the jungle drums, Benitez is being lined up

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    Re: AVB & Chelsea - how much time does he have left?

    I think the players should be taking a look at themselves. They need to start fighting for the shirt and their fans.

    Sadly I'll give AVB 2 weeks; tops.

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    Re: AVB & Chelsea - how much time does he have left?

    Not sure about that. I don't think Ancelotti or Hiddink did badly out of it. Nor Avram Grant really (if you include him in that category).

    I'd love to see Benitez back in the PL, if only for the indulgent pleasure of seeing Sir Alex winding him up again.

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    Re: AVB & Chelsea - how much time does he have left?

    Quote Originally Posted by watch-nut
    Quote Originally Posted by scottbombedout
    Who would want the job if he goes? Surely any decent manager wouldn't touch it.
    well if you believe the jungle drums, Benitez is being lined up
    Benitez, the man who stopped Chelsea on several occasions in the CL. Interesting but can't see it

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    i heard that roman abramovich has spent more money sacking managers than 1/2 the clubs have spent buying players, so most mangers can go there do okish and get sacked and a nice pension

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    Re: AVB & Chelsea - how much time does he have left?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guz
    I think the players should be taking a look at themselves. They need to start fighting for the shirt and their fans.

    Sadly I'll give AVB 2 weeks; tops.
    Yeah, they didn't get bad overnight. Utd's squad is weaker but is hanging in there in spite of crazy injury problems. Fortunately the mcfc project isn't quite what it's talked up to be so a team with some spirit could stop them yet.

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    Re: AVB & Chelsea - how much time does he have left?

    Quote Originally Posted by kultschar
    Quote Originally Posted by watch-nut
    Quote Originally Posted by scottbombedout
    Who would want the job if he goes? Surely any decent manager wouldn't touch it.
    well if you believe the jungle drums, Benitez is being lined up
    Benitez, the man who stopped Chelsea on several occasions in the CL. Interesting but can't see it
    Well, about 8 years ago, Benitez was being lined up for Chelsea and Mourinho for Liverpool...so it's funny how things work out.

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    Re: AVB & Chelsea - how much time does he have left?

    Chelsea need to get rid of the old muppets like Terry, Lampard and Drogba who think they own the club. AVB has hardly brought in any of his own players. He needs at least 100 million and 2 years to give him a fair chance. Unfortunately, shrewd as RA may be in business, he doesn't seem to have a brain for this sport.

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    Re: AVB & Chelsea - how much time does he have left?

    Benitez for Chelski? Will he really play the attacking, exciting football Roman wants? And his track record on transfers isn't amazing for what he spent...

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    Re: AVB & Chelsea - how much time does he have left?

    Quote Originally Posted by kultschar
    Quote Originally Posted by watch-nut
    Quote Originally Posted by scottbombedout
    Who would want the job if he goes? Surely any decent manager wouldn't touch it.
    well if you believe the jungle drums, Benitez is being lined up
    Benitez, the man who stopped Chelsea on several occasions in the CL. Interesting but can't see it
    On two occasions. Also the man who got stopped by Chelsea in the CL and was responsible for Liverpool losing 4-1 to Chelsea at home - their biggest loss at Anfield in over 30 years at the time. Yes, that man.

    Let's all try and remember that the media have the simple job of selling newspapers and, if nothing real is happening, they'll happily make it up and hide behind their undisclosable 'sources'. The more controversial a story is, the more people want to read it. This wouldn't happen in a month of Sundays.

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    Re: AVB & Chelsea - how much time does he have left?

    Quote Originally Posted by scarto
    Chelsea need to get rid of the old muppets like Terry, Lampard and Drogba who think they own the club. AVB has hardly brought in any of his own players. He needs at least 100 million and 2 years to give him a fair chance. Unfortunately, shrewd as RA may be in business, he doesn't seem to have a brain for this sport.
    +1. Some of the players are really way beyond their prime. Anyway: still funny to see that you can spend half a billion and still not win the CL :roll:

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    Re: AVB & Chelsea - how much time does he have left?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark020
    Quote Originally Posted by scarto
    Chelsea need to get rid of the old muppets like Terry, Lampard and Drogba who think they own the club. AVB has hardly brought in any of his own players. He needs at least 100 million and 2 years to give him a fair chance. Unfortunately, shrewd as RA may be in business, he doesn't seem to have a brain for this sport.
    +1. Some of the players are really way beyond their prime. Anyway: still funny to see that you can spend half a billion and still not win the CL :roll:
    Sadly, in Chelsea's quest for immediate satisfaction for trophies during the last 8-9 years, the board have taken the quick and easy fix of buying established players and have stuck with the core of those players. In the meantime, the youth and younger players have not been given the chance they should have. Before Torres and Luiz were bought though, Chelsea had been only the sixth or so biggest spender in the league for the previous five years having tried unsuccessfully to either bring through youth or to buy less experienced players with potential. Now, Chelsea are in the position of needing a major overhaul. Mind you, AVB has already spent well over £50m, some of which (Mata, Romeu) has been very well spent. If AVB's to be given a chance and Roman is finally to go for stability, he will need some time and a lot of money and some patience. Mind you, the time and patience is something that can be ill-afforded with the pressing Financial Fair Play regulations.

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    AVB & Chelsea - how much time does he have left?

    Only Roman knows the answer to that question but AVB should be given to the end of next season to put together his own team and to get it playing in his way. [The defence, in particular, needs a radical overhaul and that won't happen overnight.]

    It is always tempting to respond to the pressure of the crowd and get rid of someone (for a quick fix) but I personally think the owner should back his man and hope that his obvious ability and potential shine through in the end.

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    Re: AVB & Chelsea - how much time does he have left?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nugget
    Only Roman knows the answer to that question but AVB should be given to the end of next season to put together his own team and to get it playing in his way. [The defence, in particular, needs a radical overhaul and that won't happen overnight.]

    It is always tempting to respond to the pressure of the crowd and get rid of someone (for a quick fix) but I personally think the owner should back his man and hope that his obvious ability and potential shine through in the end.
    You are right, Nugget but sadly it is a bit of a 'Catch 22' situation. With the FFP rules coming in, the club will need every penny to help with the annual accounts and therefore, Champions' League footy is right up there in terms of importance. However, can AVB secure that for next year with the players and (some of) their 'fighting' spirit? However, going for the quick fix and getting rid of AVB would incur huge compensation payments that also should be avoided.

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    Re: AVB & Chelsea - how much time does he have left?

    Is there a possibility of Gus Hiddick coming in as a Director of Football and acting as a support/mentor to AVB over the next couple of years and would AVB accept that?

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    Re: AVB & Chelsea - how much time does he have left?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nugget
    Is there a possibility of Gus Hiddick coming in as a Director of Football and acting as a support/mentor to AVB over the next couple of years and would AVB accept that?
    Not now that he's signed a contract with Anzhi Whatstheirfaces in Russia, sadly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by watch-nut
    Looks like things are getting tougher and tougher for the manager and what looks like a dumping out of the CPL makes things worse.

    He's clearly a decent manager, his porto record was second to none but he struggling to get these boys playing so how long has he got? it's not as if the chelski owner is known for his patience :roll:

    He is a good coach but he is not a great coach. At Porto his attacking style worked because there were only two teams in Portugal that were on their level so most teams sat back and got beaten. In the PL most teams will not sit back so they expose the overly attacking Chelsea system. Beyond the system the players are not defending well as individuals. Mereles for example would have never played again under Mourinho after yesterdays display.

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    They have plenty of potentially great players coming through, with the lack of response he is getting from the old guard I am surprised he is not taking more of a risk. The most worrying thing for me though is that he seems to be struggling to see the areas that are obviously failing. In particular Luis needs moving somewhere other than central defence, fantastic footballer but too many mistakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scarto
    Chelsea need to get rid of the old muppets like Terry, Lampard and Drogba who think they own the club. AVB has hardly brought in any of his own players. He needs at least 100 million and 2 years to give him a fair chance. Unfortunately, shrewd as RA may be in business, he doesn't seem to have a brain for this sport.
    This is bang on the money, Terry, Lamps and Drog need to be shown the door asap.
    They are all past their best AVB needs to be given time. I for one hope he does not get the sack.

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