Reply With QuoteI like the one with the PR indicator 8)
Eddie
Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".
I like the one with the PR indicator 8)
All good for me.
Just need to swap over the arrow tips so the larger one is on the hour hand :)
+1Originally Posted by SternG
That's the most balanced
I'm still not sure how "Sewills" is pronounced, by the way
Nice touch with the 'Sheffield' too.
Putting Yorkshire on the watchmaking map. 8)
+2 for the PR indicator, but all look very classy...
All nice. I particularly like the one with large date at 12
They all look pretty good, but the chrono could be something very special. I know several people will complain about the clipped digits, the fact that all chronos are busy, etc., but those people, in this case, would be quite wrong. The balance is just right (the others are all a bit off) and there's something about the juxtaposition of a modern sports-watch design with old-fashioned formal styling that I think works really well.
Also, +1 on the "Sewills Sheffield" name, which I like a lot. The typography could do with tightening up a bit on the 3 with horizontal writing though, it looks like the fonts on the left and right differ in height by about 1pt in addition to the difference in weight, which is so subtle that it just looks like a mistake - however it might just be an artifact of the image at low res and not intentional.
BTW, what's the significance of the number 4608 on these?
I would go for the top right version myself, although I'm not sure not sure if Sheffield works on the same dial as Swiss Made, presumably it's an eta movement, however I did think that Eddie had recent watches made in Germany?
I like the last one (bottom right) and the power reserve one. The large date does nothing for me personally.
I'd most definitely have a watch with Sheffield on the dial but I'm biased :lol:
If you were to say "Soo-ills", only the most pedantic would pick you up on not pronouncing it "Syoo-ills", which is the absolute correct way.I'm still not sure how "Sewills" is pronounced, by the way
I stand to be corrected if anyone can do better.
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Jim.
Cutty Sark's marine chronometer (when she was owned by the Portuguese under the name 'Ferreira') was made by Sewills and that was its number.
Yeah, me too.
Thirded.Yeah, me too.
Dave E
Skating away on the thin ice of a new day
If you were to say "Soo-ills", only the most pedantic would pick you up on not pronouncing it "Syoo-ills", which is the absolute correct way.I'm still not sure how "Sewills" is pronounced, by the way
I stand to be corrected if anyone can do better.
That would be /sju??lz/. Thanks 8) 8)
What Greg said. I like the one with the power reserve indicator most.
The traditional marine chronometer (with the power reserve layout) would be my choice, have been looking at a Ulysse Nardin Marine Chronometer a few times....
however I would change the "haute et basse" for up and down..... seems more appropriate for a watch from Sheffield
(or is the local dialect of Sheffield closer to french than to the queens english? :wink: )
top right for me, simple is nicer IMO and I'm not a fan of moving the name away from the traditional below 12 position, but the power reserve is the nicest of the rest. :D
Oh absolutely. I've been hoping for a TF chrono for a long time. The Speedbird IV is obviously never going to materialise, so this Sewills is really something to look forward to 8)
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I like the barrel case, the lug interphase, and the lug shape. Is it going have blue hands?
I am not fussed myself but over the years on the net I have discovered that many have intense dislike of Roman numbers. Due to that you might want to consider Arabic numbers. The black dialled Carmania used Arabic to good effect. The UN 1846 comes with both.
I like the way the Carmania's bezel pretends to be coin-edge but isn't. Many don't like coin-edge bezels either. If you check out the 1846 it also has a way of hiding the coin edge. I don't think a full coin-edged bezel suits the chronometer style.
john
Every watch a story.
Or maybe 'oop' & 'dahn' :)
I'm still not sure how "Sewills" is pronounced, by the way
Unfortunately it's the same with Precista. Didn't you point out it was a Greek God or town or something ?
Swills watches should have Liverpool not Sheffield on the dial.
Just sayin'.... :wink:
They all look very elegant, would steer towards the power reserve version.
PR Indicator for me also, Id like to see 'Swiss Made' replace with "Sheffield Knocked Up' - Class
RIAC
Precista is a Romanian church, and the guy who started the Benrus Watch Company was also Romanian but with no connection between the two. :scratch: :tard:I'm still not sure how "Sewills" is pronounced, by the way
Unfortunately it's the same with Precista. Didn't you point out it was a Greek God or town or something ?
john
Every watch a story.
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Let's get weird. The Sewills chronometers mostly housed Mercer movements. Well, I've lived on Mercer Street W1 where Mercer had a workshop, well, more like a warehouse. Does it count? :pale: :P
john
Every watch a story.
Eddie
Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".
Very nice. With power reserve would be my choice.
The diamond tips on the minute and hours' hand must be exchanged. The heavier one must rest on the shorter hand, full stop. Elementary graphic design.
Fourthed for big date please but I'm always a sucker for a chrono too.
On the Drawing there is 4 models
A B
C D
I like A and D (the chrono ?)
Easy Grip Crown 8)
Eddie
Eddie
Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".
A. #1. I think the power reserve indicator is the correct complication for the contemplated movement (I seem to remember reading about). Maybe scale that power reserve display down a bit? I agree with the prior comments about the hands as well.
I'm not sure about the new hands. I liked that the minute hand diamond aligned perfectly with the chapter ring it sits over. Making it slightly smaller seems discordant to me. The size of the diamond on the hour hand doesn't matter so much, other than that it should look relatively in proportion with the minute hand, I.e., I don't think it really matters which is bigger or smaller, so long as it remains obvious that the hour hand is the shorter of the two.
Things start to get muddled when the lengths are too similar, but that's not a concern here. Having said that, I've just noticed that the hour hand is now a bit longer, so that's also a step backwards.
In summary, the first one was better :)
You see? The thread has only been running for 2 days and already we're arguing about the hands! One person said there was a basic design error so I changed them and now somebody else doesn't like them, preferring the original hands instead.
Now I understand what made Edmund Blackadder such a curmudgeon.
Eddie
Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".
Superb, the redesigned handset is a huge improvement :thumbright:
Eddie
Power Reserve version for me please :mrgreen:
Design by committee is rarely a good idea. Which is why you should only listen to the person that's right, which is me :D
In all seriousness I'm not a graphic designer but having spent the last 15 years working with them, I get a bit OCD about alignment, proportions and so on. There are certain things that will just look wrong, and you have to look at everything in context, in this case how the hands relate to the dial. There are lots of circles in the design formed by the top and bottom of the text, the edges of the hands, etc. if you were to actually draw in all those implied lines, the proportions should still look right. So if two implied lines are too close together then they should be made identical or they will look muddled. The fewer you have to begin with, the cleaner everything will look. Things should be spaced out by either the same amount, or by distances that are used elsewhere (preferably with some ideal relationship like 1:2 or 1:1.618).
I seem to recall there being a really good article about this stuff by the designer of the Seiko Ananta who was particularly anal about it (most designers know it intuitively and may be surprised to discover so much concordance between measurements if someone takes them). Don't have a link handy though.
OTOH, to address the idea that the hour hand should always be fatter, this is clearly untrue. Although it is the usual convention, you only have to look at sword hands to see there are exceptions. The basic rules of design however, have far fewer exceptions. That said, I don't have a problem with the hour hand being the fatter per se, so long as everything else remains concordant.
Well said. In reference to the Ananta ... the details are all correct but the whole that comes out of them sucks. :twisted:
john
Every watch a story.
Mmmmm, interesting. Power reserve and Chrono for me (although the chrono movement would be easier to source... seagull, right?)
I quite like the ones with the "katana" power reserve indicator, especially the 3 hand version. Still, it's worth qualifying everything I just said because basing any design purely on mathematical ratios is unlikely to work well unless you really know what you are doing.Well said. In reference to the Ananta ... the details are all correct but the whole that comes out of them sucks. :twisted:
For instance, when people first find out about phi and start making all their proportions multiples of it, it tends to produce results that are better than if no thought is applied whatsoever, but still not as good as a half decent designer would manage intuitively. The key to great design is often breaking some of the rules, but only through knowing the rules well enough to know which ones to break.
:shock: I hope it looks like a 7750. Blue main hands, (deep) Red central secs.
john
Every watch a story.
That's probably because te rest of the design ( #1 PR design) is already very good :)
You know beter than all (or most) of us how you get your designs to work, but this is a very promising start of things to come (hopefully)
Eddie
Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".
:shock: :shock: :shock:
Holy mother of.... that is beatiful.
Hey, that ain't so bad :D
...it would be interesting if Eddie would produce a drawing of a real piece of crap ...just to see the reaction.
I wouldn't put it past him, I'm almost ready at all times....
ps... I like the above... beauty with great style points all over...
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