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    Re: Some possibilities for the future

    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    Did I mention enamel dial?

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    Did I mention that this would easily be a watch to take a Bremont off my wrist (in rotation of course)? ;) Apart from the IWC A/T 3548, this is the only watch that speaks to me! :thumbup:

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    Re: Some possibilities for the future

    I'm really quite excited about this one. Let's hope the Condems haven't put me out of business by the time it's released. :wink:

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    Re: Some possibilities for the future

    Quote Originally Posted by crazyp
    I'm lucky enough to own one of the re-issued Sewills and based on my ownership experiences I would like to see a black faced version and also a version with non-roman numerals.....
    The Sewills were not re-issued but unsold original stock.

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    Re: Some possibilities for the future

    Quote Originally Posted by magirus
    ............

    Does this watch have name or will it be the PRS-4608? :P

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    Re: Some possibilities for the future

    I don't propose putting a name on the dial but I suppose it will be known as the "Ferreira", it might be stretching it a bit to call it the "Cutty Sark" :wink: .

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    Re: Some possibilities for the future

    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    I don't propose putting a name on the dial but I suppose it will be known as the "Ferreira", it might be stretching it a bit to call it the "Cutty Sark" :wink: .

    Eddie
    :scratch: but that's Portuguese? Is there not something from Sheffield that could be used (maybe without the the number), which I'd have thought would be more fitting?

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    Re: Some possibilities for the future

    Quote Originally Posted by crazyp
    Agreed, doesn't look right - would have to be roman or batons like Ulysse Nardins...but what I really, really want is a Sewills regulator :twisted:
    Do you mean a regulator with retrograde minutes or something else?



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    Re: Some possibilities for the future

    Quote Originally Posted by abraxas
    Quote Originally Posted by crazyp
    I'm lucky enough to own one of the re-issued Sewills and based on my ownership experiences I would like to see a black faced version and also a version with non-roman numerals.....
    The Sewills were not re-issued but unsold original stock.

    john
    Thanks for the correction - I was aware, but the right word kept eluding me as I wrote the post :roll:
    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    Quote Originally Posted by crazyp
    Agreed, doesn't look right - would have to be roman or batons like Ulysse Nardins...but what I really, really want is a Sewills regulator :twisted:
    Do you mean a regulator with retrograde minutes or something else?



    Eddie
    I was meaning more of the Chronoswiss style. But if you went for a retrograde minutes, I would prefer to have the seconds hand as central and the hours as a sub dial similar to this: :



    I'm not a huge fan of how its done here and your styling is better but it illustrates the point. Though I can also appreciate the movement modifications may be greater :?:

    To me the best implementation of the Regulator is the one by Dornblueth, also with central seconds and power reserve - pic below stolen from Jocke :)


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    That looks very good!
    Maybe dark purple instead of dark blue for the hands would work well?
    Look at the hands of SSK007's Chronographe Suisse for example: http://www.tz-uk.com/forum/viewtopic...218768&start=0

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    Re: Some possibilities for the future

    Please don't change the design!!!
    The Marine Chronometer dial is the best :D

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    Re: Some possibilities for the future

    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    I don't propose putting a name on the dial but I suppose it will be known as the "Ferreira", it might be stretching it a bit to call it the "Cutty Sark" :wink: .

    Eddie
    Sewills wouldn’t have had any such qualms. :wink:

    However, it would be in keeping to use Ferreira of course...

    Quote Originally Posted by ralphy
    Ships chronometers were uniquely numbered and often had the name of the ship engraved alongside the number.

    As an example, chronometer 4608 was made by Joseph Sewill for the Cutty Sark and is now on display at the National Maritime museum in Greenwich. (It is actually inscribed on the box lid with the ships name Ferreira, as this was the subsequent name of the ship when she was owned by the Portugese).

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    Re: Some possibilities for the future

    Based on the renderings I'd buy one in a heartbeat.

    I think I prefer the rendering on the darker strap but the tan strap with blued hands is pretty close and in the end it would not sway my buying decision as I like both.

    Love the idea of the power reserve, not so sold on the retrograde minutes if it's an either or choice.

    A little booklet giving some of the history and information about the movement would be a good touch IMHO.

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    Re: Some possibilities for the future

    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    Quote Originally Posted by Daddelvirks
    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    Did I mention enamel dial?

    Eddie
    Did you mention a price and date of delivery? :D

    Daddel.
    7 - 9 months and certainly not cheap.

    Eddie

    Will you be accepting payments in new GRD? :D

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    Re: Some possibilities for the future

    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    6498-1, screwed balance, swan-neck, blued screws, Geneva stripes, custom power reserve modification, view back.........

    That's the stuff 8)

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    Re: Some possibilities for the future

    Quote Originally Posted by SternG
    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    Quote Originally Posted by Daddelvirks
    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    Did I mention enamel dial?

    Eddie
    Did you mention a price and date of delivery? :D

    Daddel.
    7 - 9 months and certainly not cheap.

    Eddie

    Will you be accepting payments in new GRD? :D
    :lol: :lol:

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    Re: Some possibilities for the future

    The "4608" on the dial was a bit of miscommunication between myself and the designer :wink: .



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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    The "4608" on the dial was a bit of miscommunication between myself and the designer :wink: .



    Eddie
    Now we are talking 8)

    One on the far right for me - the left one the 5 just looks wrong. Now if only a power reserve indicator on the dial was possible without cluttering the dial - I suspect not unless you go with the Dornblueth implementation with a central seconds hand.

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    Re: Some possibilities for the future

    I'm liking the regulateur too - possibly even more :P

    Put a PR indicator on there (if possible) and it'd be a home run indeed!

    You got me all excited Eddie :bom:

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    Re: Some possibilities for the future

    All these movements are modified 6498 so to have centre seconds, regulator dial and power reserve would require 3 major modifications which, even if possible, would be VERY expensive.

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    Re: Some possibilities for the future

    I hope the movements have thin (18) cotes de geneve instead of more common broad 9 stripes - like in LE Italian.

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    Re: Some possibilities for the future

    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    All these movements are modified 6498 so to have centre seconds, regulator dial and power reserve would require 3 major modifications which, even if possible, would be VERY expensive.

    Eddie
    So, these are thoughts, not possibilities?
    They would have to be modfied back so to speak?

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    Re: Some possibilities for the future

    Can I ask if those movements are the ones originally intended for the B-Uhr?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SternG
    Can I ask if those movements are the ones originally intended for the B-Uhr?


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    Re: Some possibilities for the future

    Just catching up with this...
    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    Oh yes!

    I also like the date model but I think the PR is slightly better. Analogue subdials seem to suit this style of watch better.

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    Re: Some possibilities for the future

    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    I did have a look at an Arabic dial but I don't think it works as well as the Roman dial.
    Agreed. I don't usually like Roman numerals but with this design and style of watch they are just fine.

    Also, I think the blue hands really work well.

    By the way, is that the way that PR works on this movement (i.e. anti-clockwise)? Istm that most PRs seem to work clockwise (i.e. more reserve in the clockwise/left direction). Doesn't matter, just curious.



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    Re: Some possibilities for the future

    Quote Originally Posted by markrlondon
    By the way, is that the way that PR works on this movement (i.e. anti-clockwise)? Istm that most PRs seem to work clovkwise (i.e. more reserve in the clocwise/left direction). Doesn't matter, just curious.
    It's in-keeping with a Marine Chronometer (the ones I've seen)

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    Re: Some possibilities for the future

    I think it great Eddie taking feedback on his plans.

    However some imho take it too far-i dont think this etc, in what i feel are negative tones. Not all- if he didnt want opinions he wouldnt show. Just some are OTT.
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    Re: Some possibilities for the future

    Date at 12, forget the power reserve crap.....keep it simple.

    Paul

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    Re: Some possibilities for the future

    Quote Originally Posted by walkerwek1958
    Date at 12, forget the power reserve crap.....keep it simple.
    Ime I've often found power reserves to be useful. I think I slightly prefer the PR to the date but I could live with either. Broadly I think analogue subdials (compared to 'digital' date wheels) suit this watch better.

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    Re: Some possibilities for the future

    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    6498-1, screwed balance, swan-neck, blued screws, Geneva stripes, custom power reserve modification, view back.........

    Eddie
    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    Did I mention enamel dial?

    Eddie
    That is the right spec for a Marine Chronometer watch

    Quote Originally Posted by abraxas
    I also 'thought' about the hands, but not for long. I go with the distinctive. It's actually a very good design. It's not easy to be different and not look out of place.
    I agree with John, the hands are distinctive and original IMHO there's little more to change.

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    Re: Some possibilities for the future

    Quote Originally Posted by walkerwek1958
    Date at 12, forget the power reserve crap.....keep it simple.

    Paul
    It's a handwound Unitas, there's no date option.................

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    All these movements are modified 6498 so to have centre seconds, regulator dial and power reserve would require 3 major modifications which, even if possible, would be VERY expensive.

    Eddie
    Given the reputation you have now built, people will buy a quality product even if it is expensive. Your flock here have also changed and by and large are willing to spend more as well. I think an expensive watch once in a blue moon should still be a success, though I appreciate a min of 50 odd orders will not be easy especially with the amount of modifications.

    I for one would be very keen, especially for a regulator given the Dornblueth I want is several thousands over what I can afford :(

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    Re: Some possibilities for the future

    Quote Originally Posted by Daddelvirks
    Quote Originally Posted by walkerwek1958
    Date at 12, forget the power reserve crap.....keep it simple.

    Paul
    It's a handwound Unitas, there's no date option.................

    Daddel.
    If modified then there is. Here is one of my favourite with grand date complication

    http://www.photowatches.eu/displayim...&cat=139&pos=0

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    Quote Originally Posted by messenius
    Quote Originally Posted by Daddelvirks
    Quote Originally Posted by walkerwek1958
    Date at 12, forget the power reserve crap.....keep it simple.

    Paul
    It's a handwound Unitas, there's no date option.................

    Daddel.
    If modified then there is. Here is one of my favourite with grand date complication

    http://www.photowatches.eu/displayim...&cat=139&pos=0
    I meant that there's probably no date option as far as Ediie's concerned :)

    I hope he sticks to the original marine chronometer concept...........

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    Re: Some possibilities for the future

    Yes please :blackeye:

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    Re: Some possibilities for the future

    I must admit I liked the BASSE/HAUTE thing better

    It's got a certain je ne sais quoi about it :D

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    Re: Some possibilities for the future

    These look excellent.

    Great to see the revival of classic British brands.

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    Re: Some possibilities for the future

    Quote Originally Posted by SternG
    I must admit I liked the BASSE/HAUTE thing better

    It's got a certain je ne sais quoi about it :D
    Fromage de tête??? :D

    Marvellous pics Eddie, that's my watch, please change nowt :) .

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    Re: Some possibilities for the future

    Quote Originally Posted by Daddelvirks
    Quote Originally Posted by SternG
    I must admit I liked the BASSE/HAUTE thing better

    It's got a certain je ne sais quoi about it :D
    Fromage de tête??? :D

    Marvellous pics Eddie, that's my watch, please change nowt :) .

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    Agreed Daddel.
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    Have we had a WR rating for this yet?

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    Re: Some possibilities for the future

    Quote Originally Posted by ralphy
    Have we had a WR rating for this yet?

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    Not yet but I doubt we'll manage 1000 metres.

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    Re: Some possibilities for the future

    Bearing in mind that this is officially a "dress watch", I've been advised that to keep it as slim as possible 50 metres is do-able.

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    Re: Some possibilities for the future

    Given, as you say, it's a dress watch then 50m (splashproof) is all that is neded surely?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aldfort
    Given, as you say, it's a dress watch then 50m (splashproof) is all that is neded surely?
    To be honest, I expect these will be kept in the box and never worn :lol: .

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    Quote Originally Posted by aldfort
    Given, as you say, it's a dress watch then 50m (splashproof) is all that is neded surely?
    To be honest, I expect these will be kept in the box and never worn :lol: .

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    Special gimbaled box?

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    Quote Originally Posted by aldfort
    Given, as you say, it's a dress watch then 50m (splashproof) is all that is neded surely?
    To be honest, I expect these will be kept in the box and never worn :lol: .

    Eddie
    That was good!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

    BTW the renderings of the watch on the maps are very good: looks as if the watch is real!

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    I'm liking this more the more I see of it. :D

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    Re: Some possibilities for the future

    Quote Originally Posted by angeche
    BTW the renderings of the watch on the maps are very good: looks as if the watch is real!
    Agreed. Remarkably good work!

    Or perhaps it is real and the watch is ready to launch. ;-)

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    Re: Some possibilities for the future

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeroen
    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    6498-1, screwed balance, swan-neck, blued screws, Geneva stripes, custom power reserve modification, view back.........

    Eddie
    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    Did I mention enamel dial?

    Eddie
    That is the right spec for a Marine Chronometer watch

    Quote Originally Posted by abraxas
    I also 'thought' about the hands, but not for long. I go with the distinctive. It's actually a very good design. It's not easy to be different and not look out of place.
    I agree with John, the hands are distinctive and original IMHO there's little more to change.
    Nothing wrong with the design of the hands. However, their modern geometrical styling is at odds with the traditional look of the rest of the watch. The juxtaposition of contrasting styles can sometimes be used to striking effect but in this case I feel it's it's an unnecessary design statement.
    Anyway, there are plenty of alternative handsets available for the 6498 should anyone wish to modify :wink:

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