Rolex sub for me, I think it's the association from the original books that reference a Rolex!
I don't agree, the character of Bond was exact in the clothes he wore, the Vodka he drank, the ciggs he smoked, and the food he ate, even down to how many minutes his boiled egg should be done, I think we can safely say he would have worn a strap that fitted the watch, not a girly 16mm nato on a Submariner.
Anyhow they're only films and books so it hardly matters.
"Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."
'Populism, the last refuge of a Tory scoundrel'.
Rolex sub for me, I think it's the association from the original books that reference a Rolex!
I think that the Bond character can be split into two major categories nowadays - and then a few sub-categories along the way.
The major ones being "Book Bond" (realistically the minority character) and "Movie Bond" (now firmly the dominant force in society's awareness).
The Fleming "Book Bond" is a different animal to the screen character the world knows and loves - and Flemings sketches and notes as to his appearance would be considered (visually - and I stress this) far too fragile and unmanly to exist in modern culture.
As things stand , on this forum, in a watch vs watch debate, we have connerys rolex on "girly 16mm nato" vs the rest of the world.
As things stand, in the rest of the world, in a watch vs watch debate, Bond now wears Omega.
There are more Bond films than Fleming Bond books and ,worldwide, more people are aware of and love the films than the books.
Difficult one to call. The classic Rolex is a delight, but the Omega Titanium just takes it for me. What a timepiece?
For me it has to be the SMP in golden eye. I remember watching the movie when he turned into a laser beam and various other things. I can also remember using it as a weapon on golden eye on the n64. :)
Chris
Navitimer 806 in Thunderball,
1) ace film, so good it was remade*
2) an integral part of the plot, the watch being used to lay claim to identifying the pilot aboard the nuke carrying Vulcan (Francois Derval, Domino's brother), even though he had of course been replaced by Angelo, a SPECTRE henchman, who had plastic surgery to look like Derval. Few other watches had such a specific link to the story, many have performed specific functions though (eg buzzsaw, magnet etc).
* Never say never again being eminently watchable and outside the Eon franchise, which I think is a good thing.
There have been reports that Barbara Broccoli gave Danial Craig, Cubby Broccoli's Rolex 6538.
http://jamesbondwatches.blogspot.co....olex-6538.html
Here is Jakes Rolex world article on Daniel Craig and Bonds watches
http://rolexblog.blogspot.co.uk/2008...n-connery.html
Don't forget about all the non-Fleming books. There was a lot of fluff about one of the more recent authors and his "Bond watch" recently... can't remember which 'blog 'broke' the story, but I think it may have been an Oyster Perpetual Date, or something, that was worn in Carte Blanche? If this is an "official" book, commissioned by the Ian Fleming Productions, is it a "Bond Watch" too?
If you want it to be.
Why not?
It'd be surprising if it ever topped a poll though!
My point is we can hardly take flemings books to be the gospel anymore when so much more has been written since and the most established and recognised Bond reference points are those of the films.
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Seiko 7549-7009 600m Tuna that Roger Moore wore in for your eyes only...
My new fav...
...with the added bonus that its mine ;-) Maybe QoS wasn't so bad after all...
Galore's 6542
Ok not directly James' but stunning nonetheless.
The 6538 is not bad either if it were mounted on a proper strap...
Connery,s big crown sub for me.......im trying to find a 2nd hand no date 40mm ravern for the look of that watch but with no luck yet:-( but all is not lost as a lot are saying steinhart are doing there own homage to the watch :-D
That's because he ordered the wrong strap - before that film, there was no way he could have ordered a "Bond NATO" and had anybody know what the heck he was talking about, so the strap you see is just what a shop assistant thought a Bond should look like, hence no red ;)
Oh, and my votes would be for the SMP followed by the Sub - the latter is what seems to be associated by most aficionados, whereas I remember the SMP best, and it was the first "proper" watch I bought
[QUOTE=Umbongo;2768174]I think that the Bond character can be split into two major categories nowadays - and then a few sub-categories along the way.
The major ones being "Book Bond" (realistically the minority character) and "Movie Bond" (now firmly the dominant force in society's awareness).
The Fleming "Book Bond" is a different animal to the screen character the world knows and loves - and Flemings sketches and notes as to his appearance would be considered (visually - and I stress this) far too fragile and unmanly to exist in modern culture.
QUOTE]
Lets shake hands and agree to disagree, the films have moved away from the original text for either commercial (product placement) reasons or the desire to update the films with ever more ridiculous plots, for example Moonraker with space shuttles and laser guns, and the daft one (the name escapes me) with invisible bloody cars, as far as I am aware the Dan Craig offerings have been a pretty solid attempt return to a gritty more original interpretation, though not perfect given the absurd product placement of watches, beer bottles and of course Sony mobile phones.
The books are definitive, and the first few movies with Connery were pretty close to the story lines, whether Bond would have worn a Submariner is debatable, I would suggest he wouldn't, as such a watch in the 60s would not be typical of a Sales manager of an import/export firm, whereas an Oyster on a bracelet would, indeed its an Oyster on a Bracelet in OHMSS.
So whenever I see pictures of Submariners on Natos, I really do PMSL, grown men acting out childhood fantasies.
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"Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."
'Populism, the last refuge of a Tory scoundrel'.
The Blue AT is my favourite, and great looking watch.
For presence its the planet ocean for iconic bond its 5513
RIAC
From the (arguably) greatest video game of all time, Goldeneye.
It shows your health and armour levels.
Seriously my favourite is the watch used in the real Goldeneye movie, the SMP 2531
I know the Sub is the one to go to, but I do enjoy the PO. Mine;
Planet Ocean 2500!
The blue Aqua Terra from Skyfall is what I would call a perfect watch, but my favourite has to be the SMP in its automatic guise (the 2531) used in Tomorrow Never Dies, The World Is Not Enough and Die Another Day. It isn't called the "SMP Bond" all these years later for nothing - it has become the ubiquitous Bond watch.
Has to be the classic sub on NATO for me.
Agree on the Rolex, Omega just bought their way into the franchise, Flemming always had Bond down as a Rolex wearer
James Bond was a character in a series of books who wore a Rolex Explorer and looked like Hoagy Carmichael.
That is all. The rest is all product placement and circumstance.
The real question is what did the real James Bond wear?:
[From Wikipedia]"Fleming took the name for his character from that of the American ornithologist James Bond, a Caribbean bird expert and author of the definitive field guide Birds of the West Indies. "I wanted the simplest, dullest, plainest-sounding name I could find, 'James Bond' was much better than something more interesting, like 'Peregrine Carruthers'. Exotic things would happen to and around him, but he would be a neutral figure—an anonymous, blunt instrument wielded by a government department."
I suspect you already know the answer to this, so that both you and the innocent French public are quite safe from the consequences of your threat.
However just in case you or others don't know how the argument goes: Fleming based Bond at least in part on himself and Bond's choices in clothing and possessions are in most cases the same as Fleming would have chosen for himself. Fleming almost certainly wore an Explorer. Fleming states in one of the books that Bond wears a Rolex sports model which is tough enough to be used as a knuckle duster. The inference is therefore that James Bond, before his movie career, wore an early Explorer too. However, there is, as you say no definitive evidence for this.
However, as I said the more interesting question is what the real James Bond wore, the Bond you're getting all hissy about is just a bloke in a book.
Stop bitching and look at watches... (They are all good, btw)
Personally, I'm not all that bothered what Fleming and/or the literary Bond wore. Odds are that it was an Explorer, but that doesn't make me want to go and buy one. A classic and timeless design without doubt, but a tad dull for my liking and not enough to play with ;-)
You could argue that Omega's use of the bezeless and relatively small AT in Skyfall was something of a reversion to the original '50s Explorer design. The 8500 AT is probably the only Bond watch that looks acceptable with a dinner jacket, although ironically I don't recall seeing a wristy showing it off during the Macau casino scenes.
As a naval officer with a propensity to dive in a number of his cinematic outings you could argue that JB should sport a bezelled diver of some sort. I think the 16600 would've made a great 'tough as nails' Dalton Bond watch instead of the now ubiquitous Sub Date.
The 2351.80 is the definitive '90s Bond watch and accounts for a lot of gent's first 'proper' watch, myself included. But the SMP looks a little dated now, even with re-vamped applied indices, a gloss dial and a ceramic bezel
45.5 PO on rubber too big and informal, PO 8500 too chunky under the shirt cuff, so 2201.50 it is for me - the ultimate Omega Bond watch. Is my assessment a little biased owing to my recently acquiring one? Yesh Mish Moneypenny...
The big crown sub is my fav but that planet ocean is rather lovely.
Personal favorite is the 5513, closest to what a 'real' Bond would wear in the Navy.
The Rolex sub for me. The newer Omega Bond watches are shameful imho...
Hardly 'shameful'. I agree the unnecessary use of 2 time pieces per movie is commercially cynical, but you can't dispute the quality of the watches featured. At least they stuck with the POs since DC took over. As much as I admire the Blue AT 8500, I'm not sure it makes a great Bond watch (diver bezel for an ex-Naval officer surely?!).