I was nearly scammed today, beware Chrono24 seller Philip Hawkins.

[burnsey66]

Enjoy your knitting circle ladies.

Typical keyboard warriors missing spine.

That'stripe attempts to bully and belittle..

Plastic keyboard gangsters.

Wasters with mental age of kindergarten bullies in special needs dept..

Looks like you'll be hearing from the lawyers in the morning. There's got to be enough there for a class action

[Tomw2000]

Ace thread. Thanks OP for very community spririted headsup.

And thanks banjodarren for best (recent) opening contribution to the forum.

Run along now - you're leaving us to our crochet, right?

Lmfao

[Rodder]

And all this because he wants to be the fasted member ever to SC access, 19 posts and counting!!!

[AllyWheels]

BongoDave, welcome to the forum. I think you will find it pleasant and informative.


The OP made no negative allegations about Chrono24.

You are however making negative allegations about the OP. You should be very careful. He may "eat you for breakfast slander-wise"

[bongodave]

BongoDave, welcome to the forum. I think you will find it pleasant and informative.


The OP made no negative allegations about Chrono24.

You are however making negative allegations about the OP. You should be very careful. He may "eat you for breakfast slander-wise"

O strongly suggest you read the initial posts re op and then read the replies to them. I would greatly appreciate you pointing out where I am in any way attacking them. I think you will find the complete opposite is the case and your focus on the bulls-eye painted is somewhat skewed.

[bongodave]

Looks like you'll be hearing from the lawyers in the morning. There's got to be enough there for a class action

D,Wainwright Pg Dip LLB
135 Melbourne Road
Coventry
CV5 6JJ

Feel free I always welcome new projects.

[Cirrus]

Present law[edit]
English law allows actions for libel to be brought in the High Court for any published statements which are alleged to defame a named or identifiable individual (or individuals; under English law companies are legal persons, and allowed to bring suit for defamation)[1] [2][3][4] in a manner which causes them loss in their trade or profession, or causes a reasonable person to think worse of him, her or them.

“A is liable for saying anything to C about B which would be apt to make the average citizen think worse of the latter.”
A statement can include an implication; for instance, a photograph of a particular politician accompanying a headline reading "Corrupt Politicians" could be held as an allegation that that politician was personally corrupt. Once it is shown that a statement was published, and that it has a defamatory meaning, that statement is presumed to be false unless the defendant is able to raise a defence to his defamatory act.

Under English law, because companies are legal persons they can sue on the basis of libel the same as natural persons. Cases supporting this principle go as far back as the 19th century, such as South Hetton Coal Co. Ltd. v. North Eastern News Ass'n Ltd. [1894], and extend to more recent cases such as Bognor Regis U.D.C. v. Campion [1972][1] and the McLibel case, when McDonald's sued several protesters.

The 2006 case of Keith-Smith v Williams confirmed that discussions on the Internet were public enough for libel to take place.[8]

You have read, copied and pasted, but apparently not actually understood... there has been no defamation against C24 - no actions were attributed to them, no-one thinks any less of them. Your entire argument fails simply because your original premise was wildly incorrect.

Defamation is not about what one functionally illiterate person thinks or believes was published, it is about what was actually published. No amount of Wikipedia articles makes someone liable for something they did not do or say.

[Cirrus]

That being the case then eBay could take half the world to court (where is the rolls eyes smilie)

Their own reputation and feedback system would be defaming them - they would have to sue themselves :)

[Tomw2000]

D,Wainwright Pg Dip
135 Melbourne Road
Coventry
CV5 6JJ

Feel free I always welcome new projects.

Hhahhahahahaha. Brilliant. How old are you, 9?

[jimmyt]

I've recently started browsing chrono24 looking for my next incoming and really appreciate the op giving the heads up on a potentially dodgy seller.
I really don't see how chrono24 have been called into disrepute as um-bongotheydrinkitinthecongodave has suggested.
Whilst I'm at it, a big thank you to Eddie and all the forum members for providing an awesome place to learn about, admire and buy and sell watches.
Ps, I may have had a bit of a drink and am about to hit chrono24 again, I fear for my bank balance come morning!

[Cirrus]

D,Wainwright Pg Dip LLB
135 Melbourne Road
Coventry
CV5 6JJ

Feel free I always welcome new projects.

You have a degree in tea-bags..?

[paw3001]

Wonderfully funny thread. Thanks Bongodave


I can thank him as he still hasn't left the building!

[itsgotournameonit]

Present law[edit]
English law allows actions for libel to be brought in the High Court for any published statements which are alleged to defame a named or identifiable individual (or individuals; under English law companies are legal persons, and allowed to bring suit for defamation)[1] [2][3][4] in a manner which causes them loss in their trade or profession, or causes a reasonable person to think worse of him, her or them.

“ A is liable for saying anything to C about B which would be apt to make the average citizen think worse of the latter. ”
A statement can include an implication; for instance, a photograph of a particular politician accompanying a headline reading "Corrupt Politicians" could be held as an allegation that that politician was personally corrupt. Once it is shown that a statement was published, and that it has a defamatory meaning, that statement is presumed to be false unless the defendant is able to raise a defence to his defamatory act.

Under English law, because companies are legal persons they can sue on the basis of libel the same as natural persons. Cases supporting this principle go as far back as the 19th century, such as South Hetton Coal Co. Ltd. v. North Eastern News Ass'n Ltd. [1894], and extend to more recent cases such as Bognor Regis U.D.C. v. Campion [1972][1] and the McLibel case, when McDonald's sued several protesters.

The 2006 case of Keith-Smith v Williams confirmed that discussions on the Internet were public enough for libel to take place.[8]

[AllyWheels]

Right honourable BongoDave,

You may have started out by seeking clarification on the matter but you then went on to make a full blown allegation that the OP has slandered or libeled Chrono24 in some way.





PS: you will still have to wait for 60 days before SC access.

[paw3001]

I didn't realise he had a Post Grad Diploma, bugger, I better change my user name etc!

Bloody grow up! Lots of people have funny letters after their name...but only the insecure use them on a blooming forum!

[Embles]

Thanks to the OP for pointing this guy out. I so nearly bought this last week but I decided not to because I wanted a 42mm PO instead...so glad I didn't. I'm hoping that the one I've bought off another seller on Chrono 24 is above board!

Anyone had any dealings with Churchill and Wolff?

[burnsey66]

135 Melbourne Road
Coventry

Looks like the HQ of someone extremely successful

[bongodave]

Looks like the HQ of someone extremely successful

Yup. Thanks.

[paw3001]

Well someone on the street has a great collection of wheelies bins. Thanks for the SOTC!

[bongodave]

I didn't realise he had a Post Grad Diploma, bugger, I better change my user name etc!

Bloody grow up! Lots of people have funny letters after their name...but only the insecure use them on a blooming forum!

Tell it to your doctor.

[paw3001]

Oh is that a threat bigbongobongo? Do I need to be afraid of your little keyboard and big bongo knuckles bashing the keys!

Think one of us must be drunk and it isn't me!

[MakeColdplayHistory]

Well someone on the street has a great collection of wheelies bins.

They're for recycling all the 'special interest' catalogues that might be delivered to no. 135 in the next few weeks.

[Cirrus]

They're for recycling all the 'special interest' catalogues that might be delivered to no. 135 in the next few weeks.

As fun as that sounds, the chances of it actually being his house are slim... BT, for example, list no Wainwrights in that post code.

[bongodave]

They're for recycling all the 'special interest' catalogues that might be delivered to no. 135 in the next few weeks.

Look forward to it. You can see the drum flower-pot bolted to wall for authenticity. I'll warn the posty to be ready and quick. X

[MuRph77]

Best opening posts to forum membership. Ever.

[bongodave]

As fun as that sounds, the chances of it actually being his house are slim... BT, for example, list no Wainwrights in that post code.

Possibilty of ex directory or no phone-line? Maybe not on electoral register?

Then again, I dare say everyone has a bongo bolted to their wall.

[bongodave]

Oh is that a threat bigbongobongo? Do I need to be afraid of your little keyboard and big bongo knuckles bashing the keys!

Think one of us must be drunk and it isn't me!

Sorry, please do as I requested several posts ago and feel free to paste the threats and abuse. Should be good seeing what some of you have written again.

[Cirrus]

Possibilty of ex directory or no phone-line? Maybe not on electoral register?

Then again, I dare say everyone has a bongo bolted to their wall.

Of course it is a possibility, but it reduces the probability that it is your home... after all, you would have to be an imbecile to post your actual address on the internet - it would take only one drunk and evil-minded forum member (and we have more than one) to suggest to the police that you are a paedophile with connections to al Queda and your feet wouldn't touch the ground!

[bongodave]

Of course it is a possibility, but it reduces the probability that it is your home... after all, you would have to be an imbecile to post your actual address on the internet - it would take only one drunk and evil-minded forum member (and we have more than one) to suggest to the police that you are a paedophile with connections to al Queda and your feet wouldn't touch the ground!

I like a challenge.

[rockinrobin]

D,Wainwright Pg Dip LLB
135 Melbourne Road
Coventry
CV5 6JJ

Are you trying to imply that you're a solicitor?

[Cirrus]

I like a challenge.

It does appear that many things are to you.

[demer03]

I like a challenge.

[TBKBABAB]

http://forums.mg-rover.org/member.php?u=112892

[MuRph77]

Either: intellect, foolishness, bravery or suicide. Or a combination......

Either way I'm mclovin Bongodave. :-):-):-)

[burnsey66]

http://forums.mg-rover.org/member.php?u=112892

Profile:

What make of car do you drive?
MGF


Any modifications to your car?
Lotus Elise exhaust, piper cross filter, ferrari 358 leather seats, roll hoops, re-trimmed interior and hood.

[bongodave]

Either: intellect, foolishness, bravery or suicide. Or a combination......

Either way I'm mclovin Bongodave. :-):-):-)

Don't gorget to tell them about my S&M toothless octogenarian fetish involving camels.

[bongodave]

Profile:

What make of car do you drive?
MGF


Any modifications to your car?
Lotus Elise exhaust, piper cross filter, ferrari 358 leather seats, roll hoops, re-trimmed interior and hood.

Wouldn't touch one. Mitsubishi FTO Mivec Manual, (may see some posts on FTO forum) Volvo V70r awd and Jaguar XKR for wet hair days... X

[Mr TPG]

Clearly BD needs to calm down and leave the forum as he has repeatedly threatened to, but IMHO all this google streetview and (jokey) suggestions of retaliation is a bit much.

[bongodave]

http://forums.mg-rover.org/member.php?u=112892

There is such a thing as impersonation I believe.

[burnsey66]

Clearly BD needs to calm down and leave the forum as he has repeatedly threatened to, but IMHO all this google streetview and (jokey) suggestions of retaliation is a bit much.

He posted the address of his lawyer. That is what the street view represents. Nothing sinister.

[bongodave]

Clearly BD needs to calm down and leave the forum as he has repeatedly threatened to, but IMHO all this google streetview and (jokey) suggestions of retaliation is a bit much.

For the third time, please paste any threats or abuse made as I would enjoy to read the silly guff of others again. X

[bongodave]

Like it. Got stuck at below the waist though for some reason.......?

- - - Updated - - -

Either: intellect, foolishness, bravery or suicide. Or a combination......

Either way I'm mclovin Bongodave. :-):-):-)

Thank you kindly sir.

[itsgotournameonit]

Any chance of those pictures ? Always nice to see a new members collection


I bet its a slightly weird collection.No ?

[Mr TPG]

Ah I stand corrected. I hope his lawyer doesn't get any turds or weird magazines as as result of this increasingly bizarre thread...!

He posted the address of his lawyer. That is what the street view represents. Nothing sinister.

[bongodave]

Are you trying to imply that you're a solicitor?

No. Merely giving my details for all. You implied this. I only practise the piano.

[bongodave]

Ah I stand corrected. I hope his lawyer doesn't get any turds or weird magazines as as result of this increasingly bizarre thread...!

Took me ages to bolt the bongo on my lawyers wall when he was out of his lawyery house doing lawyer stuff in the good old US of A.

[Foxy100]

I think the jist of it is that we're all wrong apart from bongo, who isn't.

Or have I missed something? I'm not even sure why I bothered reading this thread.

[Mr TPG]

I am so confused. Back to my knitting...

[MuRph77]

http://www.ftooc.org/forum/archive/i...p/t-68387.html

Wouldn't touch an MGF ?

[bongodave]

Any chance of those pictures ? Always nice to see a new members collection


I bet its a slightly weird collection.No ?

Not really. Couple of cheapy Seikos, a very nice Rotary Chrono and a Tudor BR service award 9ct in post from states where my 'lawyer' is currently researching the possibilities of percussion wall abuse. There is a thread with pics of my Tudor in post for your perusal.