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    CAF homage ...

    Is the CAF homage still a possibility or has the proposed Richmond Spencer trench watch taken its place? I'm a bit confused with so many TZ UK watches threads in this forum.

    Cheers

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    It's somewhere on the horizon but without any specific twenty.*

    john


    * twenty = slang for 'position'
    Costume jewellery. Ouch!!!

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    John I think I may have asked in the past but did we compose a reserve list for the CAF :?:
    paul. :)

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    Let's have the lists out, if i'm not on it, and its running anew, i want to be on it... but for something this pretty, surely its not going to be an LE?

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    List was made years ago (2003). Is it still valid, I don't know.

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    For those that have forgotten.



    BornT's fantastic concept drawings for the PRS-9

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Jr
    For those that have forgotten.



    BornT's fantastic concept drawings for the PRS-9
    Awesome scetch!

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    Not just an awsome scetch but an awsome watch. To bad the silver case is no longer going to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Jr
    Not just an awsome scetch but an awsome watch. To bad the silver case is no longer going to happen.
    Ron, I have acquired for #21 on the "Italians doubts" thread but didnt find any "official" list with the search - is there such thing as a "official CAF list"?

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    Haven't seen that sketch in a while, well worth resurrecting!
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    This is where the list was back in 2003.

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    Please don't ask to be put on the list though, I don't even know if it's going to happen. It's been a project for 4 years and a working project for the last 18 months.

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    It would be a shame if it didn't happen. :cry:

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    :shock: :shock: :shock: Hoooly...

    Now that is one great looking watch!

    Err... WOULD be a great looking watch ;-)
    I'm not as think as you drunk I am.

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    Always read with interest when the CAF was mentioned, but had not seen this wonderful sketch up to now - thanks!

    Which movement was to be used, again?

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    I see that 007, 080 have not been taken, in that case, my name goes in there please... in that order of preference :)

    If they have been taken somewhere along the way, then any no. will do...

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    This is where the list was back in 2003.

    Please don't ask to be put on the list though, I don't even know if it's going to happen. It's been a project for 4 years and a working project for the last 18 months.

    Eddie
    oh... didnt see that


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    Just training, it aint "caf" but something along the basic theme:



    My skills... suck :roll:

    Sorry

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    Is it me or does subseconds do better for this particular model?

    I have been eyeing the zeno version, but my preference for eddie's works means that I'll only get the zeno if this project becomes irrevocably cancelled :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by calvinktlim
    Is it me or does subseconds do better for this particular model?

    I have been eyeing the zeno version, but my preference for eddie's works means that I'll only get the zeno if this project becomes irrevocably cancelled :P
    No, you are right. Subseconds it is.

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    Is this what you are seeking for?



    The Zeno ... I received a couple of compliments about it last week, only to realise that I haven?t had any compliments lately because I haven?t been wearing it outside the house ... while deciding whether I can deal with strap-studs or not. Occasionally I have doubts about the lugs sticking out like that and if it wasn?t for the historic connection I might have gone off the watch by now. It has a very strong character and if mass-produced, might not be as popular as some presume.

    Having said that, I will probably keep mine for a very long time. There isn?t much out-there like it. If you like the CAF shape get the Zeno, you will not be disappointed.

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    Very nice...

    Its definately on my list of watches to get... But theres no more watch funds, with my italian/speedbird 1903 order...

    It'd be at least a couple of months before my next, prs14 + the zeno?

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    Oh and if i get the zeno, will definately be looking to mod it with cathedral hands... :twisted:

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    The CAf appeals greatly me, mainly because of the sub seconds and the bezel marker - but I want both.

    Does the Zeno have the bezel marker? I like it because a timing bezel in a non-diver watch appeals to me a lot.

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    by saying "Bezel marker", do you mean the sharp pointy thing as seen in the longines? Can it be rotated? how does one use it to time?

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    When this (hopefully) finally gets to the status of needing an order list, I will jump on it, I think it will be a great watch.

    In the meantime, that Zeno of John's is a good substitute (no rotating bezel though). I've thought about getting one having seen John's, but haven't taken the plunge as yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by calvinktlim
    by saying "Bezel marker", do you mean the sharp pointy thing as seen in the longines? Can it be rotated? how does one use it to time?
    Yes, the bezel rotates and the pointer goes with it, so I'd use it like the luminous "pip" on a diver bezel - a small amount of mental agility to use as a timing aid, but no big deal.

    I posted a few weeks back on a "non diver with functional bezel" - if I wanted quartz then the Breitling Aerospace would be ideal - and the Tutima FX Auto looks very good. The CAF would be nice though.

    As Ron said, a sterling silver case would be great but assume not many peopl e wanted it. The PRS-20 was made with PVD movements for 2 people, though, so maybe not impossible? Who knows?

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    Making two cases from different materials is a lot different to simply fitting a different grade of movement. :wink:

    Eddie
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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    Making two cases from different materials is a lot different to simply fitting a different grade of movement. :wink:

    Eddie
    I can appreciate that Eddie :)

    I hope you are able to get the CAF made, so I'll keep an eye out, as if you do change the list I'd like to be on it, but appreciate also that there's no point signing people up to something that won't happen anytime soon.

    Anyway, I have another HW watch to amuse myself with at the moment :wink:

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    Quote Originally Posted by calvinktlim
    by saying "Bezel marker", do you mean the sharp pointy thing as seen in the longines? Can it be rotated? how does one use it to time?
    It's just a positional indicator ...

    john
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    I'm still waiting for no 91............ :lol:

    even if it takes another 4 years I still take it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wardy
    ................even if it takes another 4 years I still take it!
    Same here.... (but in this case for #25)

    Jeroen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeroen
    Quote Originally Posted by Wardy
    ................even if it takes another 4 years I still take it!
    Same here.... (but in this case for #25)

    Jeroen

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    Re: CAF homage ...

    Quote Originally Posted by sundial
    Is the CAF homage still a possibility or has the proposed Richmond Spencer trench watch taken its place? I'm a bit confused with so many TZ UK watches threads in this forum.

    Cheers

    dunk
    I like the watch. I think it hasn't been made now that Zeno Watch Basel came out with a faithful homage model. There is a Longines mint CAF for sale on the Bay now but at $3,000 - its a rich man's toy. Beyond what most of us would want to spend to acquire it. The Zeno is available for under $400, a very affordable price. Longines could bring it back but it would retail for what I think Eddie would charge for a Precista Limited Edition model. Cheers!

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    Rolex, c.1937. Model Reference number 3139.

    john
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    Great balls of fire!

    Best wishes,
    Bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by rfrazier
    Great balls of fire!

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    Totally original dial and in perfect condition, as is the entire wristwatch.

    Due to its very solid and rugged design this particular Vintage Oyster # 3139 model, became very popular with the Military. With the approach of the second world war it was later to be sold as the Rolex "Army".



    The very attractive Art-Deco period classic Oyster case is in Steel, signed Rolex Swiss Made and numbered 106240 for the year 1937 and with reference number 3139 together with the 1930s Rolex Crown emblem.



    The Oyster case reference number 106240 is for the year 1937.

    This is a CAF and a half. The inscription on the back shows it was owned by a member of the British Army, a "P. de Castro of the 7th Wiltshire Regiment" ... What shall we call this, 'The British CAF'? :wink:

    john
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    Quote Originally Posted by abraxas
    Quote Originally Posted by rfrazier
    Great balls of fire!

    Best wishes,
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    Totally original dial and in perfect condition, as is the entire wristwatch.

    Due to its very solid and rugged design this particular Vintage Oyster # 3139 model, became very popular with the Military. With the approach of the second world war it was later to be sold as the Rolex "Army".



    The very attractive Art-Deco period classic Oyster case is in Steel, signed Rolex Swiss Made and numbered 106240 for the year 1937 and with reference number 3139 together with the 1930s Rolex Crown emblem.



    The Oyster case reference number 106240 is for the year 1937.

    This is a CAF and a half. The inscription on the back shows it was owned by a member of the British Army, a "P. de Castro of the 7th Wiltshire Regiment" ... What shall we call this, 'The British CAF'? :wink:

    john
    It just so happens the Zeno model Eddie stocks may be considered a Rolex CAF and a half homage. So the British CAF is in production. :wink:

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    Incredible post John! Thank you very much! That was very interesting.
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    Longines and Lemania

    Two pics of original CAF watches. Pics made by a member of the Czech Watch Forum called Chronomag. I wish I had these two beauties:





    Bands are from Jurgen Hauff and both look great. I especially like the one on Longines, that's what I call a true vintage look.

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    Might be just the piccies ... those cases look polished ...

    john
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr1973
    Incredible post John! Thank you very much! That was very interesting.
    Good find, John! I think Felix Huber and Zeno modeled the Mechanique, not after the Longines but after the Rolex. So its a homage but not exactly to a specific carre 30s watch design. So after looking at your watch, I don't think the Zeno falls short as Eddie has said; its represents a generalized carre concept. The Precista concept on the drawing boards is going to be a more specific version and neither excludes the other - at least from watch collectors' standpoint. :wink:

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    Re: Longines and Lemania

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktor
    Two pics of original CAF watches. Pics made by a member of the Czech Watch Forum called Chronomag. I wish I had these two beauties:





    Bands are from Jurgen Hauff and both look great. I especially like the one on Longines, that's what I call a true vintage look.

    I know what you mean... a Longines CAF just went recently on eBay for $3,000 - in mint condition. I don't know the value of the Lemania.

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    Might be just the piccies ... those cases look polished ...

    john

    John, the case on the Zeno Mechanique also looks polished. I still can't get over how beautiful the case looks. Whatever other flaws it may have, that should be a lesson for high end watch brands on how to execute a beautiful case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NormanF
    Quote Originally Posted by abraxas
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    Might be just the piccies ... those cases look polished ...

    john
    John, the case on the Zeno Mechanique also looks polished. I still can't get over how beautiful the case looks. Whatever other flaws it may have, that should be a lesson for high end watch brands on how to execute a beautiful case.
    I meant as in ... ?recently polished?. I have no objections with people doing whatever they want with their property but I prefer old watches to be left unpolished.

    Yes, the originals had polished finish as so do the Zeno homages. I know what you mean about the quality of the Zeno ... I cannot find anything negative I can say about it, and I am a fusspot. As a design, it is my favourite ?retro? and probably the best value for money I?ve ever had.

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    For weeks ive been looking at the Zeno mechanique in fact its more like months since I let the Lemania go (mistake) :cry: I have been tossing the idea of either a explorer type watch or a Zeno Mechanique to fill the gap I think now after a few hours looking at various pics of the Zeno I will go that way when the Boss opens up again so thanks John it was your latest pic above which made my mind up :P
    Paul. :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by bandylegss
    .......... thanks John it was your latest pic above which made my mind up :P
    Paul. :D


    I was going easy on you ... I took this one more recently :P ... on Eddie's 24mm black Aviator (no more studs for me) and my own buckle. I decided that a black buckle doesn't suit this watch. Congratulations, if you've got one coming and look forward to having lots of straps for it.

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    :cussing: you people and your great photos of beautiful watches. Now this one is tugging at my heart strings as well! So much so that I've even asked for a price.

    Of course... the Seagull "1963" is tugging too. As is a Strela. And let's not forget the CA from the main forum.

    Too many watches... too little cash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dean in Canuckistan
    :cussing: you people and your great photos of beautiful watches. Now this one is tugging at my heart strings as well! So much so that I've even asked for a price.

    Of course... the Seagull "1963" is tugging too. As is a Strela. And let's not forget the CA from the main forum.

    Too many watches... too little cash.
    I've got some more bad news for you then Dean, someone has just dropped out of the list for the PRS-50 and you're now on the list of "definites". :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne

    I've got some more bad news for you then Dean, someone has just dropped out of the list for the PRS-50 and you're now on the list of "definites". :D

    Eddie
    :D :D :D

    Mixed feelings about the sacrficies that will be required however, Eddie. Mixed feelings indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dean in Canuckistan
    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne

    I've got some more bad news for you then Dean, someone has just dropped out of the list for the PRS-50 and you're now on the list of "definites". :D

    Eddie
    :D :D :D

    Mixed feelings about the sacrficies that will be required however, Eddie. Mixed feelings indeed.
    Happy to see you're on the list now and it seems we share some watches on our "planned" list : I'm still waiting for the Seagull 1963 (when it will be available again) and just received this vintage Strela :



    cheers

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