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    New prospex sumo




    Sort of sumo mixed with 62mas and 6105

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    I've heard rumours of a new Sumo but not seen one before. Where is this pic from, and any idea when it will be released?

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    This pic I stole from a watchuseek thread, release is January supposedly

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    I wish the hands had the long base over their centre, 62mas style

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    I like that a lot, but it looks like they've made the same mistake they made with the "Sumo" — 20mm lugs/bracelet when the watch really needs 22mm.

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    Sapphire crystal upgrade too

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    I have just secreted a little . What is it with the new Prospex logo though ? I don't like it
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    Better than the 5 logo but only just

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    Quote Originally Posted by Betwee View Post
    I wish the hands had the long base over their centre, 62mas style
    Agreed, the hands aren't for me on this one.

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    May as well ignore the stock Seiko photo, they always make their watches look crap

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    I just love the Sumo but I'll not be rushing out to buy one of those. It just doesn't send me wild.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Betwee View Post
    Sapphire crystal upgrade too
    Woohoo!

    Quote Originally Posted by seikopath View Post
    What is it with the new Prospex logo though ? I don't like it
    Microsoft Excel logo...

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    Still think it could do with 22mm lug width IMO :)

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    Haaa excel logo

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    New monster too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Betwee View Post
    New monster too
    Wow! I like that. Love the new markers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bitfield View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Betwee View Post
    New monster too
    Wow! I like that. Love the new markers.
    The markers are like a half way house between the old SKX Monsters and the new SRP Monsters. Quite intriguing.

    And I just noticed! These have the 6R15 movement!! Wow.

    Do they have sapphire too? I don't read Japanese.
    Last edited by markrlondon; 18th October 2014 at 11:41.

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    It's the cyclops that kills it for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Betwee View Post
    It's the cyclops that kills it for me
    I hadn't seen the cyclops. Kills it for me too.

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    What's the difference in spec between the 2nd gen and these new monsters ?
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Betwee View Post
    Sapphire crystal upgrade too
    Maybe seiko are listening...

    To a very small number of disgruntled people moaning on message boards in Western Europe.

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    The monster catalogue pic seems to suggest it uses a 6r15. Weird

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    In all seriousness, a sumo case, with that dial and handset, and without the ugly sumo bezel, and with a sapphire crystal might be the watch that gets me wearing seiko divers again. Looks awesome. Should be released in January 2015?

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    Quote Originally Posted by seikopath View Post
    What's the difference in spec between the 2nd gen and these new monsters ?
    6R15

    And if anyone can read Japanese, do the two new Monsters have sapphire crystals?

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    I like the new Sumo, hands and all. I am also quite happy with my 1st generation Monster although I'd quite like to have it with a sand blasted or PVD finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markrlondon View Post
    The markers are like a half way house between the old SKX Monsters and the new SRP Monsters. Quite intriguing.

    And I just noticed! These have the 6R15 movement!! Wow.

    Do they have sapphire too? I don't read Japanese.
    It says Hardlex

    Paul

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    I have never been keen on the Monster's so the new models with cyclops are not for me, but I do like that new Sumo. I look forward to some good quality photo's of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markrlondon View Post
    6R15

    And if anyone can read Japanese, do the two new Monsters have sapphire crystals?
    And what movement have the recently released black Prospex monsters got ?
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    I prefer the old one, it just looks unbalanced to me :-/

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    I like this new sumo bezel, always found the font on the current sumo too big.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seikopath View Post
    And what movement have the recently released black Prospex monsters got ?
    4r36 wasn't it?

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    As ugly as ever!

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    As above, they've missed the chance to fix what, to me, is the biggest issue with the Sumo: 20mm lug/bracelet on quite a big watch.

    I actually prefer the current dial/hands.
    The bold bezel font is distinctive to the Sumo - if I bought one and didn't get on with it, I could easily swap the bezel insert.
    I'd prefer sapphire but it's not a deal breaker - if it came to it, I could have a sapphire crystal dropped in.

    But something as fundamental as lug width you're stuck with.

    If Seiko had gone to 22mm for this edition I might have bought one and swapped in the current dial and hands.

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    Does anybody know if there are any choice of colours?

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    Quote Originally Posted by seikopath View Post
    I have just secreted a little . What is it with the new Prospex logo though ? I don't like it

    The logo reminded me of..............



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    Quote Originally Posted by Captainhowdy View Post
    The logo reminded me of..............


    I have got to agree :( what's with the logo, as said the handset is wrong, just wish it had 22 mm lugs.
    Give me the old Sumo any day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Betwee View Post
    4r36 wasn't it?
    thanks. as far as i can see the rrp on these latest monsters is around 350 quid
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    I wish they'd do a re-release of the 6105-8000

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    With release in Jan 2015 I guess production of the present Sumo will end? Blumo here we come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorien View Post
    I wish they'd do a re-release of the 6105-8000
    That or 6105 8115 would be Nirvana.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamaster73 View Post
    I like that a lot, but it looks like they've made the same mistake they made with the "Sumo" — 20mm lugs/bracelet when the watch really needs 22mm.
    Like the bigger cased Rolex Sub too.

    I guess someone in Seiko design dept thought it looked good,I can see what you mean but I don't mind it tbh.It seems to take your eye to the watch for that reason.

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    Would the name only be adequate on the dial too?,and that applies to any watch.

    I don't need to be told it's a diver and automatic and the depth on the dial IMO.

    I can see its a diver and presumably I would know that I've chosen an automatic!.

    I suppose it's all about how balanced the dial looks hence the wording.....but sometimes it's just too much,and anyway do we read it?.

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    Isn't being under strapped sort of traditional for seiko divers?

    The 6105 was a 44mm case with a 19mm bracelet.

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    Exactly!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Captainhowdy View Post
    The logo reminded me of..............


    I was just about to say that!! Simon Cowell has a deal with them for sure!!😄
    I prefer the old Sumo to be honest and unlike a few here the 20mm bracelet has never bothered me in the slightest??
    I do like it but leave the Scuba on the dial for me and lose the X Factor connection!!

    Chris

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    That new Sumo looks interesting, although I'll reserve final judgement until some real-world pics appear when it's released. That scan probably does it no justice at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markrlondon View Post
    And I just noticed! These have the 6R15 movement!! Wow.
    That's a Monsumo!

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    Love the new monster, hate the new sumo. Those hands are ugly. They should have looked like that of a 6105 instead (sharp edges, lume on the seconds hand tip).

    edit: just noticed the cyclops. Not OK.
    Last edited by yonsson; 19th October 2014 at 10:33.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Goyne View Post
    I like this new sumo bezel, always found the font on the current sumo too big.
    The new sumo bezel insert on the old sumo would fix things for me. Who'll be first? Yobokies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tokyo Tokei View Post
    It says Hardlex

    Paul
    Thanks. That's a bit of a shame considering the new Sumo has sapphire.

    Quote Originally Posted by seikopath View Post
    And what movement have the recently released black Prospex monsters got ?
    4R36.

    (Sorry, I see already answered)

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    80,000 Yen = 465 GBP. Sounds interesting. (60,000 Yen for the Monsters is 347 GBP, btw) I mean, how long will it take before Rob from Monsterwatches or Magi from Solojapan (European part of eBay) will offer them for less...

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