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    LPG for home

    Have been looking at moving and have seen a house we both quite like but it isn't on the grid and has LPG. Hoping to get some info from the TZ-UK collective :)

    The house is new build (although has been finished over a year with no-one living there), and I presume has a tank underground as I saw no sign above ground but a green plastic manhole cover in the front garden.

    How much more expensive is it?
    Does the equipment running off it need to be specialised like boiler, cooker etc?
    Anything to look out for/be wary of?

    Basically any information you can give I'd appreciate as we have no idea whatsoever.

    Paul.

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    Master dice's Avatar
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    I can't help you with the cost, but yes appliances will need to be re-jetted for LPG. This usually isn't a problem, for example when buying a gas cooker you can specify that you want LPG jets for the more expensive things such as ranges, or get them as an accessory for off-the-shelf options. In terms of maintaining these appliances, just check that its burning clean and no debris accumulates near the ignition or burner holes.

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    I did not think you could store LPG below ground.

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    Hi its 37p ltr I have a bulk tank.
    Paul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andyg View Post
    I did not think you could store LPG below ground.
    Probably the best place for it:

    Underground tank
    If you would prefer to have the tank hidden from view an under ground tank is ideal. The only thing that is visible in your garden is a handy green cover that provides access to our delivery driver for when it's time to refill your tank.

    Out of sight, well protected, even temperature...(Calor).

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    Thanks for the replies so far guys, Paul - any idea how a litre of LPG compares to a unit of 'normal gas'? I'm guessing LPG burns differently too so the comparison maybe somewhat complicated?

    Paul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloke View Post
    Thanks for the replies so far guys, Paul - any idea how a litre of LPG compares to a unit of 'normal gas'? I'm guessing LPG burns differently too so the comparison maybe somewhat complicated?

    Paul.
    See: LPG Conversions and Gas meter readings.

    I'll have a go at getting the answer to your question...but you and others should do so too as my accuracy cannot be guaranteed!

    Edit: Here goes (but I may be wrong):

    LPG
    1 kg equates to
    2.0
    litre LPG
    1 kg equates to
    13.6
    kWh
    1 litre equates to
    6.9
    kWh

    1 litre equates to
    270
    litre gas
    1 litre equates to
    0.001
    m3
    Natural Gas
    metric meter units are
    1 m3 equates to
    11.3
    kWh equates to
    1.6
    litre LPG or
    0.8
    kg
    imperial meter units are
    1 100 cub ft equates to
    31.7
    kWh equates to
    gas bill may convert to
    kWh

    1 m3 equates to
    35.3
    cub ft
    Last edited by PickleB; 29th March 2016 at 14:47.

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    Hi there

    My last house was a new build when we moved in and had LPG. A developer built 4 houses but no gas nearby so installed communal underground tanks at side of road. All that can be seen visibly was a green manhole cover.

    As other posts says, the final nozzle jets need to be LPG specific but that is no big deal. If house is already in situ will have these. Boiler was standard iirc. Basically apart from the gas tanker turning up every 3 or 4 months to fill the tanks, you wouldn't know you were using LPG as opposed to mains gas.

    It was quite a bit more expensive though. When we left that house in 2009 I think our DD was about £140 a month which covered basically the hob and central heating. That was for a 4 bed new build. I moved into a larger house with u/f heating and think our DD dropped to about £105 for mains gas.

    All in, LPG wouldn't put me off buying a house I wanted but gas bill was very roughly 30% higher than mains.

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    This is probably not what you want to hear but we rented an old 1830's 250sqm Victorian property that had new DG windows but was not as well insulated as a new build. LPG in the winter was costing us £500/mth and annually averaged out at about £3.5-4k. And we still were not warm and toasty. Its hellishly expensive but I expect you will be an order of magnitude better off in a new build nd not being in the deep dark North of Scotland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PickleB View Post
    Probably the best place for it:
    Underground tank
    If you would prefer to have the tank hidden from view an under ground tank is ideal. The only thing that is visible in your garden is a handy green cover that provides access to our delivery driver for when it's time to refill your tank.

    Out of sight, well protected, even temperature...(Calor).

    Many thanks

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    We're very content with lpg for our heating and cooking. It can be more expensive than natural gas but I suspect no more so than other products which need to be delivered by truck. We do spend a fortune on gas but we have a large, old, inefficient house. I suspect that the cost would be reasonable for a new build.

    Shop around if you can. In part this will depend on who owns the tank, you or the current supplier.

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    We have a large underground tank at ours. New conversion of a barn that we purchased in 2009 that has thick Cheshire brick walls and rock wool insulation everywhere so is pretty energy efficient. My wife works full time and I'm away from home all week so the heating is normally only on for 2-3 hrs a night and the house retains the heat very well. My wife feels the cold and we have a 6 year old so it is never a cold house. I've been more than happy with the LPG and only pay £70 a month for a 4 bed barn conversion with a big open plan hallway and double height ceilings

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    Thanks for all the replies guys, definitely answered a few questions and pointed out a couple of things I hadn't thought of.

    Paul.

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