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    I think Rolex missed a trick with the Air King

    So I was considering one, and then, well, Daytona. Then I considered one further and saw a lume shot. Nope, not what I'd hoped as perhaps it's just me, but I think the numbers should have been lumed at the very least. There seems very little purpose to them, other than to put most people off the watch at first sight!



    ...then I saw these images and thought they've missed a massive trick here...





    Could they not have used the Celini Dual time movement (to further replicate the Bloodhound clock they've based the design on), and at the same time create a dual time watch, which would still allow room for the three-time-zone GMTc to co-exist as it's a far dressier watch anyhow...

    (pic from www.rolex.com)

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    Yep - could have made that model with the movement you suggest!
    It's just a matter of time...

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    Nice idea. The Dual Time is 39mm so the subdial would have been appropriately placed too.

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    Its not just you. The numbers should have been lumed period. It's the whole principle of a pilots watch.... I actually really like it but wouldn't have it just for that reason which is a shame.

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    However you twist and turn this, the new Air King does absolutely nothing for me. I find the numerals hugely offputting, and agree that they should have been lumed at least. The second timezone subdial only works with dress watches in my book, so no improvement at all for me.

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    The Bloodhound clock dial is much better than the new Air King.

    It knows what it's trying to be, which the AK doesn't with its odd mix of digits and styles.

    I like the sub dial too, this would have been a much better design.

    A shame really, as I rather like the vintage Air Kings!

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    Surely the point of the Air King is to be entry-level? Its not really about replicating that dial - that dial is a source of extra detail, for bulking up the existing Explorer design, to give people who find the OP 39mm too dressy an option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    However you twist and turn this, the new Air King does absolutely nothing for me[...]
    Indeed, the whole premise of a wristwatch dial as make-believe car instrumentation is inherently flawed, especially for a supposed pilot's watch. That type of gimmickry is best relegated to off-brands such as Bremont. 😑

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowman View Post
    The Bloodhound clock dial is much better than the new Air King.

    It knows what it's trying to be, which the AK doesn't with its odd mix of digits and styles.

    I like the sub dial too, this would have been a much better design.

    A shame really, as I rather like the vintage Air Kings!
    These are essentially my feelings about the new Air-King too.

    It seems like such a poor use of the name after the understated elegance of the earlier Air-Kings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Amf View Post
    Surely the point of the Air King is to be entry-level?
    Personally I can't understand how if the OP or EXP1 don't do it for the potential purchaser how the air-king would be appealing. It's still too similar in case design to those two (i.e. I would have thought it needed to be MORE different) and the general feeling on the dial is pretty clear...

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    I much prefer the older and cleaner/smarter Air-King

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belligero View Post
    Indeed, the whole premise of a wristwatch dial as make-believe car instrumentation is inherently flawed, especially for a supposed pilot's watch. That type of gimmickry is best relegated to off-brands such as Bremont.
    Shame, I quite like mine.




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    Quote Originally Posted by hoopsontoast View Post
    I much prefer the older and cleaner/smarter Air-King
    Oh yes. :-)

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    Me too. Just looked at the champagne one on SC, and it's like night and day. I think Rolex have ballsed this right up.

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    They maybe hoping that that the name will help them with sales for this, but as others have said and I am in agreement they could of done a lot better!

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    Just looks completely wrong to me, couldn`t believe it when I saw it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by W44NNE View Post

    ...then I saw these images and thought they've missed a massive trick here...


    Had a few mins before I left work for a bit of Photoshop a dial swap.
    I think it'd might make for a quite nice traveling/tool watch like that, losing the 3/6/9 helps too


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    Quote Originally Posted by endo View Post
    Had a few mins before I left work for a bit of Photoshop a dial swap.
    I think it'd might make for a quite nice traveling/tool watch like that, losing the 3/6/9 helps too

    I think there may be a queue if that was released!


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    Quote Originally Posted by endo View Post
    Had a few mins before I left work for a bit of Photoshop a dial swap.
    I think it'd might make for a quite nice traveling/tool watch like that, losing the 3/6/9 helps too

    That would have been a lot nicer in my opinion.

    I still wouldn't have called it 'Air-King' since it has nothing in common with earlier Air-Kings. It might have been worthy of a new model name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave+63 View Post
    Shame, I quite like mine.




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    I quite like yours as well!

    The car dashboard think is not such an original idea it has also been tried by Bremont.

    Oh, and wait isn't the Group B storm autodromo a similar idea as well?
    Based on a Lancia stratos dashboard? Hoodwinked has been raving about them.... But not my cup of tea.

    Anyway, I actually like the new air king very much and prefer it to the other time only rolexes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by endo View Post
    Had a few mins before I left work for a bit of Photoshop a dial swap.
    I think it'd might make for a quite nice traveling/tool watch like that, losing the 3/6/9 helps too

    Btw this seems amazing!!!!
    I would definitely go for one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ar.parask View Post
    Btw this seems amazing!!!!
    I would definitely go for one!
    You keep saying you would LOVE a Rolex, but one of your first posts stated you would like most other watches than a Rolex?......... Make up your mind, or get to 50 and end our suffering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markrlondon View Post
    That would have been a lot nicer in my opinion.

    I still wouldn't have called it 'Air-King' since it has nothing in common with earlier Air-Kings. It might have been worthy of a new model name.
    Speed King.


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    I think Rolex missed a trick with the Air King

    Quote Originally Posted by seadog1408 View Post
    You keep saying you would LOVE a Rolex, but one of your first posts stated you would like most other watches than a Rolex?......... Make up your mind, or get to 50 and end our suffering.

    mike
    Wow!
    That is a bit harsh and far fetched!
    I would hate it to be on your wrong side!
    I suppose you are referring to my post saying that I would take a Grand Seiko over a Rolex....
    I do not actually think that most watches in the world are Grand Seikos though......
    Judging from the Tudors I own I respect Rolex and their quality.
    Its a matter of taste though to prefer something over something else.
    I do not see something similar to the Grand Seiko line at the moment unfortunately.
    Oh I also don't see that model being offered by Rolex. Oh yes, hold on a sec, it is very nicely photoshopped by one of the member forums...
    I would buy this imaginary Rolex after all...

    PS: thanks for helping me up my post count by 1!
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    Quote Originally Posted by endo View Post
    Had a few mins before I left work for a bit of Photoshop a dial swap.
    I think it'd might make for a quite nice traveling/tool watch like that, losing the 3/6/9 helps too

    Exactly what it should have been! That's really impressive and a much more interesting design IMO. Thanks for doing that as I was beginning to think I was the only one that thought this was a good idea lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunscrossed View Post
    Speed King.
    Ah yes, a good name, a resurrection from Rolex's past.

    I just looked at some pics of the Speedking and it actually looks pretty much like an Air-King but so be it; it's not been in production for a long time so re-purposing its name for a modern watch with a speed-related theme would be less jarring than the re-use of Air-King so soon.

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    That mock up is fantastic! A look at what could have been.
    It's just a matter of time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by W44NNE View Post
    Thanks for doing that as I was beginning to think I was the only one that thought this was a good idea lol.
    Not a problem, i hadnt seen the SSC's clocks before so I felt compelled to do it, its alot more cohesive as a design without the applied numbers. (Even without the additional sub-dial)

    They did it with the D-Blue, can't see why they couldn't do it with the Air-King (or speed-king as suggested already, which is ideal for tieing it in with the SSC)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ar.parask View Post
    Wow!
    That is a bit harsh and far fetched!
    I would hate it to be on your wrong side!
    A thick skin is a prerequisite on here.............Mike's actually one of the good guys on here but he can be a bit 'direct' at times. This forum's got plenty of characters and that's what keeps it interesting.

    Paul

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    I think Rolex missed a trick with the Air King

    Quote Originally Posted by walkerwek1958 View Post
    A thick skin is a prerequisite on here.............Mike's actually one of the good guys on here but he can be a bit 'direct' at times. This forum's got plenty of characters and that's what keeps it interesting.

    Paul
    Well no worries!
    I was just very surprised to be attacked like that out of the blue...
    But everyone is entitled to their opinion. Sometimes it might be worth spending a min or more thinking of how to express it.........
    Anyway this thread is not about that!
    Last edited by Ar.parask; 26th May 2016 at 12:04.

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