I know of a 5d MK11 and a 300mm,50mm and grip for sale.
I know of a 5d MK11 and a 300mm,50mm and grip for sale.
I have the 6d withe the 24-105 kit lens. Absolute amateur am I, but I get beautiful photos. My only gripe is that the 6d doesn't have many focus points so anything other than portraits with still subjects gets a bit tricky for me. I will be upgrading along the line probably to the model above mine mk5 in some guise, as I think I'd get a lot better shots with more focus points. I wouldn't consider a 7d as it is not full frame.
Just found this: Considerations for buying a canon dSLR.
£1.6k for a camera to take pics of the dog and family seems a bit steep if you ask me... (yes, it's a great combo)
but for learning on...even 450d with a decent lens would produce very respectable pictures in the right hands and you can get that for well under 500 quid...no big loss when you come to sell it after you decide what type of photography you'll be really into.
Does it have to be an SLR? Surely something like the Fuji X-T10 with the XF18-55 or XF18-135 would be ideal if you're buying it purely because of the course - lightweight, all the same controls as an SLR (and all on dials as opposed to in menu's) - the Fuji refurb store has some cracking deals on them at the moment as the X-T20 is due any time soon. You'd be looking at half the price for body+lens of just the canon body alone and Fuji glass is as good as it gets!
Appreciate you wanted to stick with Canon, but I think looking further afield could be beneficial.
I echo the sentiments of paying less. A 450d is plenty decent to learn photography with.
I personally would recommend a used 5d mk2 or mk3 for the benefit of being able to buy full size lenses.
And before you start messing about with cheap nasty zooms get yourself some primes . A good 50mm is an essential inexpensive lens and indeed you may find you use it way more often than any zoom and even a cheap one will be sharper and faster than all but the super expensive zooms.
I think you have decided to go for a full frame camera. A 50 mm prime lens is common enough, but it wouldn't be my first choice. Have a read of:
Last edited by PickleB; 10th February 2017 at 18:34.
Although it sounds like you've settled on the combo you want to get, just wanted to add in my experience as a DSLR newbie - I bought the other half a 1200d with a 18-55 kit lens for £200 2 Black Fridays ago and then this year we've added the Canon 55-250 lens for £115 and a 50mm Yongnuo that for £40, does a remarkably good job. As a step up from her Lumix point and shoot, it's been absolutely fantastic. We're well aware that we're never going to be using it for anything other than dabbling but it's been producing absolute treats of pictures even in auto mode. So, all in for ~£375 including filters it's done everything we want it to cover from a first time use DSLR.
Just on a different angle.
If you have £1100 to spend you should spend £1000 on the lens and £100 on the camera body and not £1000 on the body and £100 on the lens.
TBH, your camera is going to make very little difference to the quality of the shots you get, quality being defined in its widest sense.
I'm always minded at this point to remember a black and white photograph of Martin Luther King delivering his "I have a dream" speech. Without a doubt one of the most powerful photographs I've ever seen whilst technically being rubbish, One of my favourite photos.
Ten years ago I bought the works, Nikon body, lenses, the lot. Today the body is junk status but I just pick up a nearly-new s/h example of last year's 'must have' for a third of the price and carry on snapping through the glass! There was a decent Nikon body on SC a couple of days back for about £65 for example.
You'll never regret buying good glass.
Thanks for your advice, maybe I should spend less as that seems a theme of everyone.
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The Fuji system is as flexible as any other brands. £1600 would get you an Xt-10 and some lovely prime lenses. My current favourite is the Fuji prime 35mm lens, paired with an xt-10, and a whole lot smaller and lighter than the canon SLR it replaced.
Some recent pics @ www.instagram.com/c_p
There's pretty much nothing that an SLR can do that a mirrorless system like the Fuji X-T1/X-T10 cannot - sure the AF system on high end bodies will likely be faster or better with tracking, but the X-T2 is right up there to the extent that one organisation who specialise on motorsports photography and swapped out all their Nikon DSLR's for X-T2's.
You won't lack for creativity with a mirrorless system camera and for what you are looking to shoot that's where I would be looking to get maximum bang for buck.
The G12 is a compact camera with a 1/1.7 size sensor (effectively a 4.6x crop) - this isn't really comparable to a mirrorless APS-C system.