new seadweller!

[Ari]

Missed the point spectacularly there I'd say!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[John Vargas]

Original Deep Sea Add!

Cool! Thanks for posting. :thumbright:

Thanks! Here are some better quality shots! I have two of the Mount Everest Ads, and one is signed by Sir Ed.

I actually know a man that Rolex gave one too. He lives in Lakeland FLA. I met him in line at a supermarket one day, and asked about his watch; this was about seven-8 years ago. He was in the Navy at the time and a Diving Officer in the 1950’s, and received it for deep sea testing, and completing at the time the deepest free dive for the USN. His name, and date, and presented by Rolex was engraved on the back.

I asked if he wanted to sell it, of course the answer was no, and he gave me his business card…now, I wish I could find the damn thing!

Such is life I guess!

John

[Effortless]

By the way, I once jokingly referred to Rolexes on timezone as great watches for dentists picking up escorts at the Capital Grille during Happy Hour and I was threatened by an attorney from Georgia to a fight . . . through email. Funny stuff. This new Seadweller is going to be great for Happy Hour.

OMFG!!! Like cockerals at a cock-fight!!! Ha ha!! Haven't laughed so much in a long time :lol:

Keep it coming!!!!.....

[John Vargas]

I would have paid for that GA Lawyers Ticket!

[Effortless]

I would have paid for that GA Lawyers Ticket!

John, you make me laugh. I'm glad you've calmed down... we're all supposed to be mates on here remember!

Love the shots of your GMT on a NATO by-the-way. Looks SOOOO cool. I tried to get the bracelet off my SD to fit a NATO, but couldn't manage! Must have bananas for fingers or something. Have you any tips on getting solid end-links off? I tried using the Rolex tool, but gave up after deciding I needed 2 Rolex tools and 4 hands!!

Effortless.

[John Vargas]

I would have paid for that GA Lawyers Ticket!

John, you make me laugh. I'm glad you've calmed down... we're all supposed to be mates on here remember!

Love the shots of your GMT on a NATO by-the-way. Looks SOOOO cool. I tried to get the bracelet off my SD to fit a NATO, but couldn't manage! Must have bananas for fingers or something. Have you any tips on getting solid end-links off? I tried using the Rolex tool, but gave up after deciding I needed 2 Rolex tools and 4 hands!!

Effortless.

Effortless,

Hey, I am glad I could put a smile on your face! LOL!

I have always been calm, hell; I had another back surgery yesterday, and no real need for me to get upset.

I was trying to make a point, that when you insult one, you insult the other. If you insult the rich (whatever perception one has of them), you are calling those who are not rich, (in whatever estimation that someone is rich or not) who are working their butts off to make it, be successful and provide a better life for their family and friends, more stupid than those who are rich (or perceived to be).

As you said, I was trying to bring home that point we are all mates and are supposed to help each other out, regardless of socio-economic class.

For me, I do not care what socio-economic class one belongs too. If your are a good person, that to me is of foremost importance, but to some, it seems that if you can afford to do certain things, or purchase certain items, then not only are you wrong, but completely ignorant as well.

That is no better than what Hugh Janus, AKA HughjANUS, proposed when he asked if the poor should be allowed to buy a Rolex.

Again, you are correct we are all supposed to be friends here. We are all supposed to help each other. You have a great attitude, and I respect that.

Thanks!

John

P.S…I still would have paid for that lawyer’s plane ticket!

[andrew]

I still do frequent several Porsche forum & genuinely believe anyone who buy's a brand new Porsche is a either minted (fair enough) or daft - especially those (and there are many of them) that 2 years later piss & moan about depreciation come trade in time.

Well that's fair enough. There are plenty of consumers who resent that the attachments they have developed to their belongings are never reflected in the trade-in values prevailing in the (thoroughly dispassionate) second-hand market. Even I don't like the fact that my own cherished motor is only worth about five grand to a motor trader - but I understand and accept it.

However, I don't think they are necessarily "twats", "tossers" or "wankers" and am always grateful that they had the cash, decency and /or stupidity (delete as applicable) to take that depreciation hit for me :D

Do hope that doesn't make me part of the "unwashed masses" :wink: :wink:

Well you've obviously figured out what's going on, whereas the aggressively uneducated hoi polloi seem actively to have no interest. Some of them think that cars are made four years old from the factory. And what it must be like on a BMW or Citroen Saxo forum, I can only imagine...

[John Vargas]

Love the shots of your GMT on a NATO by-the-way. Looks SOOOO cool. I tried to get the bracelet off my SD to fit a NATO, but couldn't manage! Must have bananas for fingers or something. Have you any tips on getting solid end-links off? I tried using the Rolex tool, but gave up after deciding I needed 2 Rolex tools and 4 hands!!

Effortless.

Effortless,

Thanks, I have never really been a strap person, but I like the looks of this watch better with a NATO, than I do with the bracelet.

That SD toolkit is as useless as…

Here is what I use, and I have had nothing but 100% success with both tools. Both are Bergeon, and quite inexpensive, I paid $15.00 with shipping for the all-stainless one; the other is a Non-Mar Version…. $9.99 I believe….

They fit well, and the tips are replaceable, by far the most valuable tool IMHO, that you could have in your watch tool collection.

Let me know how it works for you, if you get them.

Regards,

John

[Effortless]

Love the shots of your GMT on a NATO by-the-way. Looks SOOOO cool. I tried to get the bracelet off my SD to fit a NATO, but couldn't manage! Must have bananas for fingers or something. Have you any tips on getting solid end-links off? I tried using the Rolex tool, but gave up after deciding I needed 2 Rolex tools and 4 hands!!

Effortless.

Effortless,

Thanks, I have never really been a strap person, but I like the looks of this watch better with a NATO, than I do with the bracelet.

That SD toolkit is as useless as…

Here is what I use, and I have had nothing but 100% success with both tools. Both are Bergeon, and quite inexpensive, I paid $15.00 with shipping for the all-stainless one; the other is a Non-Mar Version…. $9.99 I believe….

They fit well, and the tips are replaceable, by far the most valuable tool IMHO, that you could have in your watch tool collection.

Let me know how it works for you, if you get them.

Regards,

John

John,

many thanks for this. I'll get them ordered, and will let you know how I get on.

Cheers!
Effortless

[thenikjones]

Effortless - if I were you, I'd ask a friendly local AD to do it for you - trust me, if you can't get a bracelet off, you've no chance getting the damn thing back on again!!

An AD should do it free, no matter where you bought the watch - well, that's the Omega way, anyway.

[DonaldF]

Effortless - if I were you, I'd ask a friendly local AD to do it for you - trust me, if you can't get a bracelet off, you've no chance getting the damn thing back on again!!

An AD should do it free, no matter where you bought the watch - well, that's the Omega way, anyway.

I got the bracelet off but it was the most-time-consuming-two-beer-frustration-induced effort to get it back on. My nerves were shot.

[thenikjones]

Effortless - if I were you, I'd ask a friendly local AD to do it for you - trust me, if you can't get a bracelet off, you've no chance getting the damn thing back on again!!

An AD should do it free, no matter where you bought the watch - well, that's the Omega way, anyway.

I got the bracelet off but it was the most-time-consuming-two-beer-frustration-induced effort to get it back on. My nerves were shot.

I've dripped sweat trying to put some bracelets back on, I'm sure I was close to a heart attack once, I could feel my chest pounding - all because I wanted to see what a watch looked like on leather, then deciding the bracelet was better.

Mesh bracelets are so much easier :)

[Nalu]

By the way, I once jokingly referred to Rolexes on timezone as great watches for dentists picking up escorts at the Capital Grille during Happy Hour and I was threatened by an attorney from Georgia to a fight . . . through email. Funny stuff. This new Seadweller is going to be great for Happy Hour.

Great moments in WIS humour :lol: :lol: I would have said "politicians", but that's just because one of my best mates is a dentist.

John, it seems to me that you're putting words in Andrew's mouth. Moreover, I have no earthly idea what you're on about:
"Nuevo Riche" - do you mean nouveau riche?
"Laissez-faire attitude"? I have no idea what this means. Looks like an oxymoron to me by the way you're using it.
"If you insult the rich...you are calling those who are not rich more stupid than those who are rich." WTF?

Where is the data for Rolex being the #1 choice of professionals? Does this come from the Rolex site, perchance?

Neil I'm with you, sticking with the 16660.

[swanbourne]

Well I'm certainly not afraid to say I think that Rolex has lost its way. Their sports range were timeless, classic designs and even though an out-and-out tool watch, did have a certain elegance. For the past couple of years, they have introduced parodies of their classic watches and why? They sell all they make and have waiting lists for many models, so it's not as if they are chasing increased sales. I say if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Eddie

[j111dja]

I have always liked the Seadweller. It was certainly a grail watch for me when I was alot younger than I am now. Way back then the case size was huge when compared to most pro divers watches of that era and this was my main attraction to the watch. I guessed right with the ceramic bezel and (raised) dome crystal but personally, I don't like this new Seadweller. I dislike the case design and silly looking lettering on the rehaut. I think 4000ft is enough thanks. Having the same depth rating along with the traditional case design and maxi dial would certainly suit my personal taste more. The positive is the new clasp that is at least a decade too late IMHO.


Dave

[John Vargas]

By the way, I once jokingly referred to Rolexes on timezone as great watches for dentists picking up escorts at the Capital Grille during Happy Hour and I was threatened by an attorney from Georgia to a fight . . . through email. Funny stuff. This new Seadweller is going to be great for Happy Hour.

Great moments in WIS humour :lol: :lol: I would have said "politicians", but that's just because one of my best mates is a dentist.

John, it seems to me that you're putting words in Andrew's mouth. Moreover, I have no earthly idea what you're on about:
"Nuevo Riche" - do you mean nouveau riche?
"Laissez-faire attitude"? I have no idea what this means. Looks like an oxymoron to me by the way you're using it.
"If you insult the rich...you are calling those who are not rich more stupid than those who are rich." WTF?

Where is the data for Rolex being the #1 choice of professionals? Does this come from the Rolex site, perchance?

Neil I'm with you, sticking with the 16660.

Nalu,

Sorry to confuse you.

You are correct in the spelling of nouveau riche, I need to use spell check, as I just type away without ever checking...my apologies.

Laissez-faire, as in the American term spawned by the great depression, meaning it and its from of thinking are anti-capitalism, and anti-wealthy, anti those who are more affluent than others.

“If you insult the rich, you are calling those who are not rich, who are working their butts off to make it, be successful and provide a better life for their family and friends, more stupid than those who are rich.” Is my exact statement,

Meaning, that if you aspire to have more, and to achieve more, you are stupid for attempting to do so. Not putting words into his mouth, merely commenting on what he has chosen to say, and to project, at least to me, and to others on this forum.

Where did I get the Rolex information, Forbes Magazine, done several years ago. I couldn’t find the 2002 article, where the SD was the best watch…but I did find the 2004 article where the best dive watch was the SD/IWC.

http://www.forbes.com/2004/06/21/cx_ns_0621feat.html

I have the 2002 hard copy of the article somewhere around here somewhere.

Business Week 2007, Rolex was the only watch company in the worlds top 100 brands…

http://www.businessweek.com/pdfs/2007/0 ... brands.pdf

Side note, here is an article to the best watches by Forbes Magazine…

http://www.forbes.com/2003/12/03/cx_ns_1203guide.html

You can reference the Rolex GMT, anywhere, the Rolex GMT was designed at the request of Pan-Am, and it was issued to all the executives with a white dial, and the Pilots, First Officers, Flight Engineers.

Here are some good references…

http://www.fiftyfathoms.net/Rolex/6542.html

http://www.secondtimeround.com/gmt%20ma ... story.html

http://www.rolexreferencepage.com/gmtmaster2review.html

I hope this clears what I said up…

Regards,

John

[Russ]

Well I'm certainly not afraid to say I think that Rolex has lost its way. Their sports range were timeless, classic designs and even though an out-and-out tool watch, did have a certain elegance. For the past couple of years, they have introduced parodies of their classic watches and why? They sell all they make and have waiting lists for many models, so it's not as if they are chasing increased sales. I say if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Eddie

Perfect, not a single word needs to be added.

[John Vargas]

Urbanization, I blame it on urbanization! Classicism went out the window, timeless looks gone, and timeless features gone...good looks gone!

Eddie, you are not being influenced any by the new “Urban Trend”???

[swanbourne]

The only positive thing to come out of these new designs is that the "old" designs will increase in value.

I'm not being influenced by the urban trend at the moment John but the force is powerful. :wink:

Eddie

[John Vargas]

The only positive thing to come out of these new designs is that the "old" designs will increase in value.

I'm not being influenced by the urban trend at the moment John but the force is powerful. :wink:

Eddie

Eddie,

Please do not fall prey to the force...

I haven’t purchased a TF watch yet, but I plan too! I would love a classic timeless watch, and not a here today, and in two years what in the hell I was thinking watch!

John

[RobDad]

Just called Rolex out of curiosity re the price of the Deep-Sea when it becomes available in the UK (about October apparently) - it'll be £4750!!!!!!!!!!! :roll:

I remember when a new SD was about £2400 - but that was back in the mists of time.....oh wait, no it wasn't, it was 2006 :P

Mind you, what with the economy being better than ever, and my house doubling in value every 2 years........oh, hang on, I just woke up, my Gas bill has virtually doubled, petrol is on the up again..........time to buy a new Rolex for £4750 - not :D :lol: :lol:

[GIB984]

Go on Rob - surely you can push the boat out a little - get yourself a couple :D

[John Vargas]

Just called Rolex out of curiosity re the price of the Deep-Sea when it becomes available in the UK (about October apparently) - it'll be £4750!!!!!!!!!!! :roll:

I remember when a new SD was about £2400 - but that was back in the mists of time.....oh wait, no it wasn't, it was 2006 :P

Mind you, what with the economy being better than ever, and my house doubling in value every 2 years........oh, hang on, I just woke up, my Gas bill has virtually doubled, petrol is on the up again..........time to buy a new Rolex for £4750 - not :D :lol: :lol:

$9,500.00US, wow! Wonder what it will be here in the US.

Well seeing, as you want one, here is what you do, cut back on the heat, tell the family, to double up on the sweaters, and clothes to stay warm. Use more candles.

Stop driving…

Tell the kids that if the keep eating the food, you will stop buying it.

If you cut out all the unnecessary things in life, you should be able to afford one in a few years…

And, there is always that lease option…

[rincewind]

I like this Rolex homage to the Seiko Marinemaster.

Have to say I'm with Jesper on this one.... as a slight aside i phoned Goldsmith's in Nottingham today to ask about putting down a deposit on the new Aquaterra and had a bit of a chat about the deepsea too. They reckon that 3 people have already put down a deposit on the deepsea and when asked when they expected to get them they said probably not before the end of the year and that when they did they'd only know a couple of days beforehand that one was coming in :shock:

So doesn't look like the price or the wait is going to put people off :drunken:

[John Vargas]

Same with my AD. I called about someone else’s watch, and asked about the new SD... It won’t be delivered until the end of the year.

Not to clear on the cost at this point as they will not allow you to put a deposit, but they think about $8,500.00...and a waiting list...

[andrew]

$9,500.00US, wow! Wonder what it will be here in the US.

£4,750 is about as much as a lot of folks happily spooed on a home entertainment system not long ago. You also can't buy a new car for that, not quite anyway, so it really isn't that much :)

Before tax, that's £4,040. (The rest, of course, goes towards the UK's world-famous public services.) That's the real price you're paying.

[raydin]

I like this Rolex homage to the Seiko Marinemaster.

Have to say I'm with Jesper on this one.... as a slight aside i phoned Goldsmith's in Nottingham today to ask about putting down a deposit on the new Aquaterra and had a bit of a chat about the deepsea too. They reckon that 3 people have already put down a deposit on the deepsea and when asked when they expected to get them they said probably not before the end of the year and that when they did they'd only know a couple of days beforehand that one was coming in :shock:

So doesn't look like the price or the wait is going to put people off :drunken:

just for fun lads. I thought about it for a while......just a comparison pic thats all.

[rincewind]

just for fun lads. I thought about it for a while......just a comparison pic thats all.

Hahaha.....point well made Raydin :lol: I guess i was being slightly tongue in cheek, but was also thinking that the bezel size and look relative to the case and the new chunkier thicker case reminded me a lot of the MM !!

Personally i don't think that's a bad thing and bar the Rehaut text on the chapter ring Rolex look to have made a cracking watch. Though i do feel that by increasing the size they are going with the current fashion for larger divers as opposed to leading the way as in days gone by. Whilst it seems to be getting a bit of a bashing i think the new sub is by far the more interesting and individual watch....in terms of case shape etc it reminds me of the older non crown guard subs...and if they do one in black and steel i may well be seriously tempted !!

Though with these modern super high tech security systems on banks these days it could well cost more money than i could easily lay my hands on :P :D

[psikat]

Has anyone joined any waiting list for this?
I held off buying a SD/LV before the price increase as this new watch was anticipated. What I did not expect was the big price difference. Aside from the price, I am also not keen on all those redundant words. It's almost as wordy as the average G-shock. :roll:
All said, I am not writing off the possibility of selling a number of watches to fund the SDDS, should one become available in the distant future.
Has anyone else got it on their wish list?

[maseman]

Asked about waiting list at one of my local AD's today. Apparently "several" people on it already.

maseman

[spogehead]

Asked about waiting list at one of my local AD's today. Apparently "several" people on it already.

maseman

Daytona all over again....??

[RobDad]

I doubt it - 2 years they'll be everywhere, I bet!

[amcneill]

2 years ago i was offered a seadweller from a uk dealer in glasgow for £2400 with 2 years interest free credit.what put me off was the clasp design.wish i'd bought it now.i like the new deepsea with a couple of reservations - too much writing, slightly too big diameter/thickness (16mm?) and of course the price!!

[outstretchedhands]

It's funny, Rolex have listened to the shouts for a larger case but totally ignored the equally strong ones for a clean dial and less writing. :shock:

[tekkno]

Just a dig at the many people who forget that buying second-hand means that some poor bastard fell on his financial sword just so they could get their pre-owned kicks

I am sorry but this has bothered me since i read it. Frankly i think the statement to be an apalling generalisation. Just because i am selling a watch doesn't mean i am facing financial ruin, nor does it mean that i am taking advantage of someone who is selling me a pre-owned piece. It sometimes happens, and i am one of those people, that someone is selling their collection of watches/silverware/antique hatpins to finance a furtherence - or support to - their business venture. It is only a watch - as Martin Broad has pointed out more than once - and not your soul. Now, selling that is another matter entirely. Don't mean to hijack the thread (i will reserve judgement on the "Deep Sea" until i see one) but i just had to get that off my chest. Sorry about that.

[outstretchedhands]

Just a dig at the many people who forget that buying second-hand means that some poor bastard fell on his financial sword just so they could get their pre-owned kicks

I am sorry but this has bothered me since i read it. Frankly i think the statement to be an apalling generalisation. Just because i am selling a watch doesn't mean i am facing financial ruin, nor does it mean that i am taking advantage of someone who is selling me a pre-owned piece. It sometimes happens, and i am one of those people, that someone is selling their collection of watches/silverware/antique hatpins to finance a furtherence - or support to - their business venture. It is only a watch - as Martin Broad has pointed out more than once - and not your soul. Now, selling that is another matter entirely. Don't mean to hijack the thread (i will reserve judgement on the "Deep Sea" until i see one) but i just had to get that off my chest. Sorry about that.

Very true. There are many reasons that cause people to trade or sell their watches. On these forums it's often just curiosity or "scratching an itch". I personally will not have large amounts invested in more than one watch. As such, I trade or buy and sell. No sword has pierced me, however, except maybe the one of greed.

[EDIT]

I might go for the DSSD, but I would never part with my current SD.

[andrew]

Just a dig at the many people who forget that buying second-hand means that some poor bastard fell on his financial sword just so they could get their pre-owned kicks

I am sorry but this has bothered me since i read it. Frankly i think the statement to be an apalling generalisation. Just because i am selling a watch doesn't mean i am facing financial ruin, nor does it mean that i am taking advantage of someone who is selling me a pre-owned piece. It sometimes happens, and i am one of those people, that someone is selling their collection of watches/silverware/antique hatpins to finance a furtherence - or support to - their business venture. It is only a watch - as Martin Broad has pointed out more than once - and not your soul. Now, selling that is another matter entirely. Don't mean to hijack the thread (i will reserve judgement on the "Deep Sea" until i see one) but i just had to get that off my chest. Sorry about that.

Good for you. I was talking about the people who take the piss out of the wealthy punters they perceive as being daft enough to pay retail ("what kind of rich f***wit with too much money buys a new Porsche/BMW/Rolex when they could be smart like me and get exactly the same thing used for far less money?") . I find this attitude mean-minded, ignorant and intolerable and I will highlight it as so. It is clearly observed in motoring communities, on technology forums, and seems to be more prevalent in places like this.

Please note I am not being critical of people who pay retail (or close to it) for new watches, or the unfortunate people who then find themselves in the position of having to sell. People who just like buying and selling new or used watches just for the fun of it don't even come into it.

[41northpole]

HI folks,

Price is £4750 for those with the dosh

Tim

[RobDad]

Why do so many Rolex posts seem to kick up rows about rich people/poor people etc?

Keep some perspective, this is about watches - if I want to flaunt my wealth/status I'd be more interested in flashy cars/boats/big houses etc!

Always bores me, as I'm not especially materialistic - I just have a thing about watches!!! :)

[psikat]

Which other watch would you rather buy with £4750 if you must spend £4750 on a watch? Would that get me a Seiko SD Spacewalk?

[Green Arrow]

On the issue of "falling on one's financial sword" so that other people can have their "second hand kick"......... not everyone is falling on their sword. I liken it to trading cars in for new ones. So long as one has the means, and isn't taking food off the table (in which case why are they buying anything other than a G-Shock?), moving from watch to watch to see what appeals for the long run, seems perfectly acceptable. I understand that if I buy a new watch, and then sell it used that I will take a loss on the transaction. If I weren't prepared to do that, I would just buy one watch, and keep it for a few decades. There is no requirement to buy and sell watches, and if someone is falling on their financial sword to do so, they need to think about their finances a bit more.

For most of us, this is a diversion and a hobby. If someone gets a perfect watch from me at a reduced price, because I have suddenly fallen in lust for the newest and greatest, then what's the harm in that. Good for them. And fine by me.

On the issue of what would I spend $9,500 dollars American if that were the price, and I'm told it will actually be $7,500, I can think of many watches. First is the Blanpain Fifty Fathoms, Rolex's own Yachtmaster (not the clownmaster), a used Patek Phillippe Nautilus, JLC Master Compressor or Amvox, Rolex's own GMT Master II C, in SS or even TT, a Girard Perregaux Seahawk Pro. For LESS money, a few Breitlings including the Superocean, Seawolf, or for the big watch set a Super Avenger. Even less money, Damasko, Sinn, B&R.

I always wanted a larger Sea Dweller. But I wanted the classic older model, just with a larger dial including a maxi-dial. Why they couldn't have just done THAT, and skipped all the advertising on the watch I don't know. I'm still very tempted, but have to admit that the rehaut's stupid wording puts me off. It's just too bad, because otherwise they would have a new classic for those of us who prefer larger dials.

[draz]

Yawn. :roll:

[tekkno]

Which other watch would you rather buy with £4750 if you must spend £4750 on a watch? Would that get me a Seiko SD Spacewalk?

Glashutte Original Sport Evolution or Anonimo Professionale or Glashutte Original Panomatic Lunar - my GOD did i just admit to liking a dress watch!!!

[Kassim Nijabat]

I Have a Sea Dweller Deep Sea

The new retail price is £5340

[alanski]

I Have a Sea Dweller Deep Sea

The new retail price is £5340

why are we resurrecting posts from 7-8 months ago?

deep sea is avaialable if you know where to look , i turned one down last wk
totally not worth the money , be better off with a old SD anyday of the wk

[bricktop]

I Have a Sea Dweller Deep Sea

The new retail price is £5340

why are we resurrecting posts from 7-8 months ago?

Because he seems to be a bit of an idiot... sorry for my honesty, but somehow he doesn't seem to get it at all.

[Kassim Nijabat]

Well I'm learning . . .slowly

[Bernard]

I Have a Sea Dweller Deep Sea

The new retail price is £5340

Wouldn't spend it on such a thing in 5340 years...

[hogthrob]

why are we resurrecting posts from 7-8 months ago?

Got to get 50 posts somehow...