Rolex LV 'Kermit' no papers value?

[trisdg]

Have just seen one in my local jewellers and thinking about it except it's a loose watch (box only)

What do you think the value is/what I should be paying?

Cheers,
Tris

[bambam]

It will depend upon age, which bezel it has etc. judging by previous posts. And also condition and any history.
Did you get a picture?

[trisdg]

In the shop at the moment.

2008

Green bezel, slightly faded with a couple of very small dent/scratches

:-)

[Ozzie]

There are three on Chrono 24 without papers for around the £6,500 mark.


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[trisdg]

That's what this shop wants. Just not sure if that's a good deal for a loose one.

Chrono24 always seems a bit high to me ;-) at least for the condition. And this is in pretty good nick

[Haywood_Milton]

What shop?

[trisdg]

Chisholm Hunter, Kingston.

Was looking to PX my Panerai but their offer didn't quite work for me.

[Ewellblue]

Think they have this in quite a while, I tried one on from them about 3/4 months ago (might be a different one of course) so might be worth a low offer!!

[trisdg]

Think they have this in quite a while, I tried one on from them about 3/4 months ago (might be a different one of course) so might be worth a low offer!!

Imagine it's the same one. He wasn't sure and said a month or so, which in retail talk could be anything up to 5 years :-D

Nice member of staff though, and was WELL into his watches. Had a beer on them as well :-)

[Haywood_Milton]

This might put you off : http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.ph...light=chisholm

Chisholm Hunter have tried to enter the business of secondhand Rolex with a bang but so far it's been more car-crash.

Never knowingly underpriced, either.

H

[Ewellblue]

Imagine it's the same one. He wasn't sure and said a month or so, which in retail talk could be anything up to 5 years :-D

Nice member of staff though, and was WELL into his watches. Had a beer on them as well :-)

Don't suppose you had a quick look at Fraser opposite to see if they had anything decent in? I've tried to get on their Daytona and SD43 list with no luck 😡

[trisdg]

Don't suppose you had a quick look at Fraser opposite to see if they had anything decent in? I've tried to get on their Daytona and SD43 list with no luck 😡

No, didn't bother, was already running late to meet my girlfriend back in Surbiton ;-)

[Ozzie]

This might put you off : http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.ph...light=chisholm

Chisholm Hunter have tried to enter the business of secondhand Rolex with a bang but so far it's been more car-crash.

Never knowingly underpriced, either.

H

Oh dear, that’s worrying. Thanks for highlighting Haywood.


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[trisdg]

Appreciate your reply, Haywood.

The bezel looked OK, but paid more attention to the case and dial.

Think I'll pass on it, permanently ;-)

[bambam]

I'm sure that if you really wanted one, a WTB on this forum might yield results. Possibly/probably with box, papers, service records etc.

[smokey99]

Have just seen one in my local jewellers and thinking about it except it's a loose watch (box only)

What do you think the value is/what I should be paying?

Cheers,
Tris

I have one from 2007 purchased from a reputable independent specialist. Comes with box and some recent paperwork from Rolex in respect of a additional link purchased from St James. I’d be after £6250-£6500 if I selling.


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[Pubdweller]

Don't suppose you had a quick look at Fraser opposite to see if they had anything decent in? I've tried to get on their Daytona and SD43 list with no luck 

Fraser Hart do have quite an attitude problem I've found

[barn]

Have just seen one in my local jewellers and thinking about it except it's a loose watch (box only)

What do you think the value is/what I should be paying?

Cheers,
Tris

I have a 2006 box and papers pre-rehaut and thinking of selling, there is evidently a huge difference in price for one with and without papers, realistically anyone can buy a box for circa £200 off ebay so one with a box and no papers was more than likely a watch purchased without anything in the first place.

There are plenty with a mickey mouse box and the dealers own worthless certificate of authenticity for circa £6500 - £7990 whereas there isn't a non molested with box & factory papers (not a 11th hour Rolex service receipt) for under £10k in today's market, unless of course its been polished within an inch of its life or has a faded bezel.

[Enoch]

I have a 2006 box and papers pre-rehaut and thinking of selling, there is evidently a huge difference in price for one with and without papers, realistically anyone can buy a box for circa £200 off ebay so one with a box and no papers was more than likely a watch purchased without anything in the first place.

There are plenty with a mickey mouse box and the dealers own worthless certificate of authenticity for circa £6500 - £7990 whereas there isn't a non molested with box & factory papers (not a 11th hour Rolex service receipt) for under £10k in today's market, unless of course its been polished within an inch of its life or has a faded bezel.

Why is a dealers certificate of authenticity worthless??

I can think of a number of dealers on here, that I would have faith in what they were certificating

[Omegamanic]

Why is a dealers certificate of authenticity worthless??

I can think of a number of dealers on here, that I would have faith in what they were certificating

Possibly badly phrased. Certificates of authenticity add little to the market value of a known genuine watch, but they do add a lot of comfort in relation to provenance when they are from the right person/Company.

[ryanb741]

I'm matey with most of the guys there (bought a few Tudors there) however one of the sales guys was the source of the PSAs on Omegas when he worked at another AD. So I can get a straight up answer on the absolute lowest they'd accept on that if you want?

[Hood]

I have a 2006 box and papers pre-rehaut and thinking of selling, there is evidently a huge difference in price for one with and without papers, realistically anyone can buy a box for circa £200 off ebay so one with a box and no papers was more than likely a watch purchased without anything in the first place.

There are plenty with a mickey mouse box and the dealers own worthless certificate of authenticity for circa £6500 - £7990 whereas there isn't a non molested with box & factory papers (not a 11th hour Rolex service receipt) for under £10k in today's market, unless of course its been polished within an inch of its life or has a faded bezel.

Not altogether true.
Haywood Milton(Miltonaires)recently sold a full set (all papers,hang tags etc)with fresh Rolex service at £8k
It's still on the website but marked as sold.

[trisdg]

I'm matey with most of the guys there (bought a few Tudors there) however one of the sales guys was the source of the PSAs on Omegas when he worked at another AD. So I can get a straight up answer on the absolute lowest they'd accept on that if you want?

Thanks, Ryan, I would be curious,but I need to go back and check the bezel though.

Will owe you a pint at the Grey Horse ;-)

[33JS]

This might put you off : http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.ph...light=chisholm

Chisholm Hunter have tried to enter the business of secondhand Rolex with a bang but so far it's been more car-crash.

Never knowingly underpriced, either.

H

That one has disappeared from the Gyle CH store.

[33JS]

Actually, that franken-flat-4 did have box and papers...