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    Quote Originally Posted by benny.c View Post
    As the value and volatility continue to rise, does Bitcoin become less of a currency and more a pure investment? Just read this statement from Steam who have stopped accepting Bitcoin payments....

    http://store.steampowered.com/news/?feed=steam_blog


    As of today, Steam will no longer support Bitcoin as a payment method on our platform due to high fees and volatility in the value of Bitcoin.

    In the past few months we've seen an increase in the volatility in the value of Bitcoin and a significant increase in the fees to process transactions on the Bitcoin network. For example, transaction fees that are charged to the customer by the Bitcoin network have skyrocketed this year, topping out at close to $20 a transaction last week (compared to roughly $0.20 when we initially enabled Bitcoin). Unfortunately, Valve has no control over the amount of the fee. These fees result in unreasonably high costs for purchasing games when paying with Bitcoin. The high transaction fees cause even greater problems when the value of Bitcoin itself drops dramatically.

    Historically, the value of Bitcoin has been volatile, but the degree of volatility has become extreme in the last few months, losing as much as 25% in value over a period of days. This creates a problem for customers trying to purchase games with Bitcoin. When checking out on Steam, a customer will transfer x amount of Bitcoin for the cost of the game, plus y amount of Bitcoin to cover the transaction fee charged by the Bitcoin network. The value of Bitcoin is only guaranteed for a certain period of time so if the transaction doesn’t complete within that window of time, then the amount of Bitcoin needed to cover the transaction can change. The amount it can change has been increasing recently to a point where it can be significantly different.

    The normal resolution for this is to either refund the original payment to the user, or ask the user to transfer additional funds to cover the remaining balance. In both these cases, the user is hit with the Bitcoin network transaction fee again. This year, we’ve seen increasing number of customers get into this state. With the transaction fee being so high right now, it is not feasible to refund or ask the customer to transfer the missing balance (which itself runs the risk of underpayment again, depending on how much the value of Bitcoin changes while the Bitcoin network processes the additional transfer).

    At this point, it has become untenable to support Bitcoin as a payment option. We may re-evaluate whether Bitcoin makes sense for us and for the Steam community at a later date.

    We will continue working to resolve any pending issues for customers who are impacted by existing underpayments or transaction fees.
    It's being dealt with.


    https://www.coindesk.com/lightning-l...-almost-ready/

    I think what everyone needs to realise that it is on a journey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPCain86 View Post
    It's being dealt with.


    https://www.coindesk.com/lightning-l...-almost-ready/

    I think what everyone needs to realise that it is on a journey.
    I don’t know enough about it. Do you believe that Bitcoin needs to be widely accepted and easy to transact with in order to maintain its value or will it continue to exist just fine as a relatively niche currency?

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    A lot of bitcoins, seventy million dollars worth, just "stolen" in a hack...

    http://money.cnn.com/2017/12/07/tech...ing/index.html
    So clever my foot fell off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFlyingBanana View Post
    A lot of bitcoins, seventy million dollars worth, just "stolen" in a hack...

    http://money.cnn.com/2017/12/07/tech...ing/index.html
    Yup I was one of the victims using that platform.

    Interestingly, Bulgarian authorities have recovered some $3Bn of cryptos that was hacked. No indication of what is going to happen to it though.

    https://www.coindesk.com/bulgarian-g...llion-bitcoin/

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    Quote Originally Posted by hyl1987 View Post
    Yup I was one of the victims using that platform.

    Interestingly, Bulgarian authorities have recovered some $3Bn of cryptos that was hacked. No indication of what is going to happen to it though.

    https://www.coindesk.com/bulgarian-g...llion-bitcoin/
    Sorry to hear that. Hope you didn't lose too much and that you get it all back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bambam View Post
    Sorry to hear that. Hope you didn't lose too much and that you get it all back.
    Nope not too much. approx USD20. nicehash pays out minimum values of USD100. So all the losses would have been between USD 0 - 100. which implies 34 million miners out there!

    Anyway, couple of questions:
    1) Does anyone have other mining softwares to recommend?
    2) Anyone does arbitrage trading? Looking at either arbitrage between exchanges or currencies on BTC.

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