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    Haven’t commented here for a while but here’s an update;

    Friend of mine is currently training for the Liverpool HM so I (stupidly IMO) asked if I could join her on some training sessions, so I could up my miles.

    Managed to get up to 2 10k’s to start, completed 7 miles one evening this week and we’re off out for 8 miles tomorrow morning.

    It’s the furthest I’ve ran in about 20 years, but I’m feeling good about it. I honestly didn’t think I had it in me since I started running again last year with the C25K but these longer sessions are working wonders for my shorter runs, I even got a 5k PB on Friday morning!

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    Quote Originally Posted by goregasm View Post
    Haven’t commented here for a while but here’s an update;

    Friend of mine is currently training for the Liverpool HM so I (stupidly IMO) asked if I could join her on some training sessions, so I could up my miles.

    Managed to get up to 2 10k’s to start, completed 7 miles one evening this week and we’re off out for 8 miles tomorrow morning.

    It’s the furthest I’ve ran in about 20 years, but I’m feeling good about it. I honestly didn’t think I had it in me since I started running again last year with the C25K but these longer sessions are working wonders for my shorter runs, I even got a 5k PB on Friday morning!
    Good work dude…. I’ll be working up to an HM soon I hope…

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    Last 7.5km I think I’ve injured my hamstring! Been off running now for two weeks 😩😡

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    Good work dude…. I’ll be working up to an HM soon I hope…
    Cheers, our training plan goes up to 11m so if I get that far I’ll be happy. I do plan on continuing the longer runs though

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    Just a bit of advice please.

    I am going on holiday and will run (Fenix connected to the Garmin App) but I do not want the runs showing in Strava for obvious reasons. It seems easy enough to disconnect Strava in the Garmin Q app, but when I reconnect will it load the runs up, I don’t want to lose the runs on my Strava total.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pitch3110 View Post
    Chaps

    Just a bit of advice please.

    I am going on holiday and will run (Fenix connected to the Garmin App) but I do not want the runs showing in Strava for obvious reasons. It seems easy enough to disconnect Strava in the Garmin Q app, but when I reconnect will it load the runs up, I don’t want to lose the runs on my Strava total.

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    Paul…. Set the place your staying at as your home and then create an exclusion zone

    Also…. What’s wrong with showing your run abroad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pitch3110 View Post
    Chaps

    Just a bit of advice please.

    I am going on holiday and will run (Fenix connected to the Garmin App) but I do not want the runs showing in Strava for obvious reasons. It seems easy enough to disconnect Strava in the Garmin Q app, but when I reconnect will it load the runs up, I don’t want to lose the runs on my Strava total.

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    Save the runs as ‘private’ in your Strava?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Progressive View Post
    Save the runs as ‘private’ in your Strava?
    exactly this - it will still show up on your personal stats but no-one else can see where you are or have been.

    To be honest though I would give extra kudos if I could for a good bit of Strava map gloating

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    Good parkrun this morning. Reckon I knocked 20 odd seconds from my pb. New shoes helped they're great.

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    Hi all

    So, ive never ran/jogged outdoors ever and want to start C25k to lose some weight (as well as diet), ive downloaded the app (Zen Labs), and waiting on some running trainers to arrive

    Anyone got any advice for me? total noobie here.

    Would of been nice to start this in the summer so Winter doesn't feel that bad!

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigup View Post
    Hi all

    So, ive never ran/jogged outdoors ever and want to start C25k to lose some weight (as well as diet), ive downloaded the app (Zen Labs), and waiting on some running trainers to arrive

    Anyone got any advice for me? total noobie here.

    Would of been nice to start this in the summer so Winter doesn't feel that bad!

    Thanks
    I started C25K 4 weeks ago after not running for years. It’s a great programme but take it easy as you go for the first few weeks. I ended up repeating week 2 as was struggling with ankle and knee discomfort as not used to running on tarmac.

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    Haven't commented on this thread before - and good luck to anyone racing today; it's a bit chilly out - our local half marathon is on as I type and I don't envy them.

    I've got no races planned for a while - probably will do a 60miler later this year on if circumstances allow; currently just ticking over after taking a rest from last year's 100miler.

    Half/full road marathon is something I'd like to have a crack at one year but all that on-road doesn't agree with me and I'm a miserable sod that doesn't enjoy running in crowds

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megatron View Post
    Haven't commented on this thread before - and good luck to anyone racing today; it's a bit chilly out - our local half marathon is on as I type and I don't envy them.

    I've got no races planned for a while - probably will do a 60miler later this year on if circumstances allow; currently just ticking over after taking a rest from last year's 100miler.

    Half/full road marathon is something I'd like to have a crack at one year but all that on-road doesn't agree with me and I'm a miserable sod that doesn't enjoy running in crowds
    100 miler??? Is that a typo???

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    Sadly not as far as my family is concerned - I like ultramarathons; did the Lakeland 100 last year; done the 50miler a few times before that. I'm lucky to live on the doorstep of a National Park and the trails are my "headspace"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pitch3110 View Post
    Chaps

    Just a bit of advice please.

    I am going on holiday and will run (Fenix connected to the Garmin App) but I do not want the runs showing in Strava for obvious reasons. It seems easy enough to disconnect Strava in the Garmin Q app, but when I reconnect will it load the runs up, I don’t want to lose the runs on my Strava total.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Progressive View Post
    Save the runs as ‘private’ in your Strava?
    Quote Originally Posted by Megatron View Post
    exactly this - it will still show up on your personal stats but no-one else can see where you are or have been.

    To be honest though I would give extra kudos if I could for a good bit of Strava map gloating
    Set default to 'Private' before you go, log runs as normal - nobody but you can see them.
    When you get home change your default back to either Everyone or Followers (whichever you are happy with).
    Then go into any of the runs you're proud of and change them individually for a bit of retrospective gloating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megatron View Post
    Sadly not as far as my family is concerned - I like ultramarathons; did the Lakeland 100 last year; done the 50miler a few times before that. I'm lucky to live on the doorstep of a National Park and the trails are my "headspace"
    Wow…. You are a supreme being…. Amazing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megatron View Post
    Haven't commented on this thread before - and good luck to anyone racing today; it's a bit chilly out - our local half marathon is on as I type and I don't envy them.

    I've got no races planned for a while - probably will do a 60miler later this year on if circumstances allow; currently just ticking over after taking a rest from last year's 100miler.

    Half/full road marathon is something I'd like to have a crack at one year but all that on-road doesn't agree with me and I'm a miserable sod that doesn't enjoy running in crowds
    For goodness sake don’t be embarrassed about that - that’s amazing. You should be rightly proud and feel able to share.

    If you’re worried people who ‘only’ do 10km, or 1/2Ms or marathons will think you weird, then don’t. I think most of us can’t even begin to imagine doing those sorts of races and would love to hear about what it takes to train for them. I’ve done 3 ultras so far, but they were short ultras :) - one was 36 miles (Two Oceans) and two of 56 miles (Comrades - one up and one down) and the thought of doing almost double those is just mind boggling. So you have my utmost respect. I do have a trail ultra coming up in August (Lakeland 60) and am looking forward to that. Training begins now - I’m a week post Manchester Marathon.

    I do prefer doing a fast (fast for me - I’m not that fast compared to a lot out there) 10km or 1/2M, as I like the sensation of speed. But there is definitely the thrill of managing to haul yourself around 56 or 90km that is enticing too - hence entering Lakeland 60km.

    I’m going to have to do a lot of reading about how to best train for this, but am really looking forward to the challenge. At the same time I don’t want to lose whatever speed I have, so a couple of sessions a week will be fast pace. 21 weeks to go - and I get a tingle of excitement when I think about it.

    Anyway I hope you post more. I enjoy hearing about the experiences of others - from people just starting their C25k journey, to preparing for ultras etc. We’re all runners - different types maybe (some road or trail etc) - and there’s always someone faster or slower than you. So I think it’s about testing yourself against yourself and just enjoying it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpydieNut View Post
    For goodness sake don’t be embarrassed about that - that’s amazing. .
    I’d be telling anyone with a pair of lugs if I’d done 100 miles Davidl!!!

    What an achievement!
    Last edited by Wolfie; 16th April 2019 at 09:41.

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    Cheers guys for the info on sorting Strava and Garmin.

    Some serious running there and boy, I genuinely respect your achievements MT and any runner would not take you the wrong way. Flippin well done fella, massive respect

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpydieNut View Post
    For goodness sake don’t be embarrassed about that - that’s amazing. You should be rightly proud and feel able to share.

    If you’re worried people who ‘only’ do 10km, or 1/2Ms or marathons will think you weird, then don’t. I think most of us can’t even begin to imagine doing those sorts of races and would love to hear about what it takes to train for them. I’ve done 3 ultras so far, but they were short ultras :) - one was 36 miles (Two Oceans) and two of 56 miles (Comrades - one up and one down) and the thought of doing almost double those is just mind boggling. So you have my utmost respect. I do have a trail ultra coming up in August (Lakeland 60) and am looking forward to that. Training begins now - I’m a week post Manchester Marathon.

    I do prefer doing a fast (fast for me - I’m not that fast compared to a lot out there) 10km or 1/2M, as I like the sensation of speed. But there is definitely the thrill of managing to haul yourself around 56 or 90km that is enticing too - hence entering Lakeland 60km.

    I’m going to have to do a lot of reading about how to best train for this, but am really looking forward to the challenge. At the same time I don’t want to lose whatever speed I have, so a couple of sessions a week will be fast pace. 21 weeks to go - and I get a tingle of excitement when I think about it.

    Anyway I hope you post more. I enjoy hearing about the experiences of others - from people just starting their C25k journey, to preparing for ultras etc. We’re all runners - different types maybe (some road or trail etc) - and there’s always someone faster or slower than you. So I think it’s about testing yourself against yourself and just enjoying it.
    Ok - appreciate that. The Lakeland race (is it this one - http://www.greatlakeland3day.com/det...layEventFormat) looks like a good event; and probably quite similar terrain to the Lakeland 50/100.

    These are some things I have learned from all the ultras I've done and doing 100 miles...

    A lot of ascent and descent and personally I found leg and core strength makes a massive difference in terms of speed up and down; but also helps me soak up all the eccentric loading from technical-ish downhills. The descents are where my legs get trashed so I do 2 sessions of gym work per week (squats, deadlifts and lunges) and this helps me massively. Like you though I do a speed session of around 10k once a week to try and maintain leg speed. Without it I do feel like I'm more ploddy. My longest "long run" is about 35miles as I find any more becomes too destructive as a training exercise.....but time on my feet is what conditions me to the inevitable hammering.

    Power walking will at some point be faster and more sustainable for me than running up the climbs and tactically this is where I do most of my eating - a zip-lock freezer bag helps me be quick in and out of the feed stations; it's all gets a bit grim and mixed up but on the plus side you do find combos that work. Haribo and salty boiled potatoes; who knew! Easy to lose huge amounts of time faffing at the stops. Poles are controversial (really commonplace on European hilly ultras) but I love them.

    Inevitably you'll have to carry a decent amount of mandatory kit - on the LL100 last year I was hit by a gale (in July) and ended up wearing full waterproofs, spare baselayer, woolly hat and gloves climbing up Gatesgarth. After 70ish miles I just don't move fast enough to generate enough heat and the Lakes can be naughty even in summer.

    I would say that 100miles didn't feel that different from 50 until I got to about mile 60; then I just became so drained that everything felt hard. I never felt like my legs weren't strong and my speed was fine, but the mental effort and sleep deprivation (we started at 1800 so had at least one night without sleep) meant I was tired unlike anything else I've ever experienced. I can't quantify how much harder it is, but it became exponentially harder the further I went.

    On the run in to the finish I didn't even have the energy to talk to my (new) friend that I had run the last 80 miles with and it took me 3 months to feel vaguely normal again. I tried a 5k 2 weeks later on holiday and it almost killed me.

    My feet were trashed; though my shoes had never given me problems before at 65 miles I got trenchfoot and the last 40 miles felt like it was running on broken glass. But then something else hurt and that was almost a relief. But navigating all of those issues and still coming in the top 40 is on reflection something I'm really proud of. But that nagging voice always says "but if your feet were ok you could have gone faster..." so I'm going back for another crack next year.

    That and the Lakeland 50/100 is an absolutely cracking weekend and I love the whole thing. Even though it's really really hard.

    Anyway if you want to waste a few minutes of your life here is a vid of what I did...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEdq...2k3zGdQt5YDhzE


    Sorry for all that, but I'm always happy to chat about all this stuff; it's also my hobby and I love it. And a Garmin is a watch too innit!
    Last edited by Megatron; 5th June 2019 at 13:33.

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    Wow - and thanks MT. that’s a huge help and to get an idea of what I’m heading towards. My mistake though in the name of the event I’ve entered - it’s the Ambleside trail 60km.

    I think the next 21 weeks are going to be busy - it sounds a lot of time, but I know those weeks go past very fast indeed.

    Again - huge respect for the runs you’ve done. They sound awesome - hard as nails and then some, and what an achievement to even finish something like that. Not surprised it takes weeks (and maybe moneths) to get over them fully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megatron View Post
    Ok - appreciate that. The Lakeland race (is it this one - http://www.greatlakeland3day.com/det...layEventFormat) looks like a good event; and probably quite similar terrain to the Lakeland 50/100.
    I haven't checked in on this thread for a little while but just catching up and noticed the GL3D was name-checked. Did anyone else on here take part? Waterproofs never came out of the pack the whole 3 days - chilly, but incredibly clear:


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