Do we think the bracelet will be available separately and likely to fit an original?
It's an utterly beautiful movement. If I didn't already have a Speedmaster, I'd be adding this one to a list I really don't want to add any more to! Even owning one, I'm tempted, and am certainly interested to see what else the 321 goes into.
Do we think the bracelet will be available separately and likely to fit an original?
It does seem like they pulled the same trick again here as they did on the Buzz Butt and have fitted a ridge to the new bracelet to prevent it being retro fitted to existing models. There is no easy way to make that bracelet fit the Pro so I wouldn't expect this one to be any better. I thought at first it was exactly the same bracelet as that fitted to the Trilogy but it seems not.
The Trilogy bracelet which is available from OBs and ADs can be made to fit the Ed White. It is a snug fit but fit it does.
This will either be a massive hit for years to come (Omega’s Daytona) with prices steady or even over list but the release takes the gloss off past LE editions and future edition pieces, with demand for them dropping along with prices on the secondary market, as this Ed White will be the one to have alongside the standard Hesalite moonwatch.
£11,300 is a lot for the average guy on the street who can't see the difference between this and a standard moonwatch. Sure, people on Watch forums will always be enthusiastic about an Ed White, but at £11.3k is another issue. I sold my original far cheaper than that.
Limited numbers will help, but in reality there isn't a great deal here for a near 200% mark up. Time will tell I suppose. There was initial enthusiasm about the 2019 Apollo XI 50th, yet several of those were flipped fairly quickly and that was a limited edition.
It’s a nice looking watch but the price is outrageous. What interests me more is if the bracelet can be brought separately as I think it would go rather well with the FOIS.
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I just clicked the reserve through concierge button on the Omega website and “reserved” one. Five minutes later I received an email saying...
“We received your reservation request for the OMEGA Moonwatch Calibre 321 (311.30.40.30.01.001).
Your OMEGA concierge will contact you shortly to organise the purchase, as well as delivery to your nearest OMEGA Boutique.
Sincerely,
Your OMEGA Team.”
I assume it means nothing? Odd process otherwise.
Unless they are going to ask you for full payment upfront which guarantees your commitment, allows Omega to recognise how many they will need to build and configure the production line accordingly.
Have your debit card handy and bank balance healthy for that phone call from the Concierge.
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I think the watch is desirable, but grossly overpriced, so it won’t be on my ‘ must have’ list. However, I’m all in favour of Omega selling to people who are prepared to pay up front for the watch, that’ll sort the men from the boys and avoid the potential for an inflated second- hand market.
ADs quoting 7 year waiting list.
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I sent MrsV on a recce as she's a good client on the of the AD in question and I'm not.
She just messaged to ask if they think they're Rolex, am very proud of her right now.
An £11.3k Speedie and a 7 year waiting list - I think someone in their marketing department needs to be relieved of their post
Good luck on both fronts, but as the Dragons say...I'm out
Its an experiment on Omega's part, they are using an iconic watch in their history to try and create the Rolex factor, like it or loathe it Rolex are brilliant at what they do and Omega want a piece of that action as would any watch company.
If this works then all the fluffy LE's will be off the shelves and 321 reissues of 105.012, 145.012 will follow with slow production rates to keep the demand high.
As a note NASA want to put man/woman/they back on the moon by 2024 - Omega have plans!!
7 year wait?
I’ve just been told by my AD that I can have one by the autumn if I really do want to spend £11.3k on a (admittedly lovely) speedy.
They aren’t ordering many as just like most of us on here, they see it as a very expensive piece, that could sit in the showroom for months. Now, I know that seems unlikely to us real enthusiasts but if the boutiques get theirs a few weeks/months before the rest of the dealer network, it’s likely that a lot of the dedicated fans will have got hold of theirs, leaving a £11k watch to sell alongside a £4-5k watch, which to the uninitiated looks and feels very similar.
Personally, I absolutely love what Omega have done with this watch but I’m still struggling with the asking price. I’d be buying as a real fan if the brand and the Speedmaster in particular, so it would be a keeper.
£11.3k though.....
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I got quite excited seeing the pictures as that is a lovely looking watch but far far more expensive than I was expecting.
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And hundreds of thousands who would probably look at buying anything that was in fashion/Insta-able. Not sure how a Speedy fits into this demographics idea of what to drop a few quid on?
I actually agree with you that it’s unlikely there will be much in the way of surplus stock but you can see why any independent looking to stock their stores would be wary. Especially give the ‘current economic climate’.
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The lists would certainly be a lot shorter if buyers had to pay full price up front, no more of this intent of interest or a small deposit but full dosh up front and you get the watch on a approx delivery date via a online system allocation slot there and then.
We would then see how many WF flippers are prepared to have £11k or £25k on a Patek, tied up for possibly a year or more awaiting delivery.
I have been a little slow on the uptake on this but think it looks cracking
But how the heck is this £11k. I just don't get it.
Bit confused about getting this watch.Initially omega asked to contact an AD or omega boutique which I did.Couple of days passed and I get an email(omega newsletter) saying the best way to get watch is to fill in form online - which I did.Got a reply saying my omega boutique will get in touch soon to take payment and I will get watch soon.Not heard anything since and I sent an email to omega asking what is going on - No reply yet.
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Shame about the price. It’s a great looking watch and I would have seriously considered chopping in my FOIS if the values were better aligned.
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They will do something else with a 321 at some stage but this is Omega looking at Rolex and liking what it seems.
Omega see limited supply equals increased demand and is why the new Bond watch is not limited.
They have seen the criticism of limited editions and know if they can increase demand for a model like the 321, and then if customers cannot get it, there is a raft of other Speedmasters they can buy. Which is very unlike Rolex where you cannot buy anything unless it is Datejust or President.
It should also give the Speedmaster a leg up in prestige.
I completely understand why people have commented so far as regards limited supply and the "rolex effect".Can we all take a moment to think what a great watch the moonwatch is and it deserves to be in most people's collections(everybody's taste is different but generally speaking people love this watch).Don't want another brand to go the rolex way with problematic Ad's and not being able to buy without paying a premium on the secondary market.
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Not sure if someone else has stated this but I spoke with a London boutique last week and they confirmed that the bracelet would be available to purchase separately. However they didn’t want to say whether the bracelet will fit a CJ2998 or FOIS etc. Even though it seems likely it will, they can’t confirm until they get one in house.
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