OK, I'd like to use this movement

[Grath]

What about using the PRS-17 case and using this movement for the "Mission Timer"?

[HilltopMichael]

If Eddie were to make the watch just for me, here's what I would like: ;-)

• 46-48 mm diameter and as thin as possible (10 mm or so).
• Black or very dark colored dial so the display isn't obvious when it's turned off.
• Two hands (no ticking seconds hand)
• Any numbers on the dial not partially obscured by the digital display (12,3,6,9 are doable, but 1-12 could also work if the dial is large enough)
• Circular flight computer.
• Elapsed time on the bidirectional bezel, not count down.
• PVD or titanium or sand blasted finish, not bright polished.
• Very good lume or no lume, not poor luminous markers.
• At least 24 mm lugs.

The closest similar watch I can think of is a Breitling Aerospace, but larger with the circular flight computer.

I'm not sure about a square version like the B&R, but something like that would allow for wider straps which would be nice. It would also be nice to offer a separate 24 hour module, and if the lugs or case were wide enough that would allow for something much larger than the Breitling module.

Yeah, I know, probably not going to happen...

[pinkwindmill]

I know size is subjective :shock:but for me the 17C case would be a little too small and 46-48mm much too large! 41-42mm and not too thick would be perfect! :D

Cheers,

Guy :)

[Mrcrowley]

Interesting concept, Eddie. I've never really been a B&R fan, so would you mind telling me how it works without pushers? Touchscreen activated?

It all works off the crown. I'm not interested in reproducing the B&R design but it's the only picture I could find of a watch using this movement.

Eddie

I hear what you say, but crap photoshop aside, I like this......



:?:

That looks OK!

[zippofan]

Oh yeah, I am liking that stealth pilot style. Plus I don't have any ana-digis, it is an excuse to get another cool watch :wink:

Cheers,
Griff

[Jeremy67]

"46-48 mm diameter"

Ahh, the first Precista clock!

[pinkwindmill]

"46-48 mm diameter"

Ahh, the first Precista clock!

Actually, I'd love a 7 or 8 day movement clock for my desk - another project Eddie?! ;) :D

Cheers,

Guy :)

[hogthrob]

"46-48 mm diameter"

Ahh, the first Precista clock!

Actually, I'd love a 7 or 8 day movement clock for my desk - another project Eddie?! ;) :D

Cheers,

Guy :)

Chimes would be nice as well :D

[Rod]

..and to further demonstrate my crap photoshop 'skills'..



8)

I like that design - I'd buy that no problem :)

Rod

[hogthrob]

I like that design - I'd buy that no problem :)

Rod

Me too. The problem is, it's a B&R with the corners cut off. No ifs or buts - it would be a shameless, outright copy.

[Glamdring]

The lugs need to be altered; they're too far apart, for instance.

[Ron Jr]

How about swing lugs like on the Laco diver?

[Hubs]

in the DN-Q thread is a link to an image of a potential look

http://geoffd.co.uk/gallery/main.php?g2 ... 22DNQ-v2_2

(hope it's OK to point at this - apologies to Geoff D if not)

Obviously, the proposed pusher free movement would give a different case look, but that concept got me interested as well as this one!

regards

Mark

[pinkwindmill]

in the DN-Q thread is a link to an image of a potential look

http://geoffd.co.uk/gallery/main.php?g2 ... 22DNQ-v2_2

(hope it's OK to point at this - apologies to Geoff D if not)

Obviously, the proposed pusher free movement would give a different case look, but that concept got me interested as well as this one!

regards

Mark

That looks quite cool, but it's back to the diver look - I'm still of the view that this is a pilot watch, rather than a diver.

How about something along the lines of this Tutima?



I don't have access to photoshop, but if you lose the day/date, 1/5th second markers, subdials and chrono hands/pushers and add in the digi module it might look quite good? I think a countdown bezel would be good for extra functionalty.

Cheers,

Guy :)

Cheers,

Guy :)

[poorman]

So is this a superquartz (i.e. thermocompensated) or just a fancy quartz? Not that it really matters (it'll still whoop a mechanical for accuracy) but looking at some of the replies there seems to be a confusion as to whether it's SQ or not.

Is this going to be more of a diver or a pilot's watch? If the latter you could sacrifice some water resistance for a loud alarm, like the X-33.

Here's the specification for the movement:

http://www.tz-uk.com/pics/988.432.pdf

Whilst some websites say that this is a "Superquartz", the spec sheet doesn't say this and it's usually on the front page if it is.

Eddie

Hi Eddie,

The 988.352 is a thermocompensated SQ movement that looks very similar. It's the movement used in the Breitling Aerospace, and is slightly smaller. Check here:

http://www.swisstime.ch/pgs/rwi-pgs-pro ... -1531.html

Cheers,
Andy

[swanbourne]

So is this a superquartz (i.e. thermocompensated) or just a fancy quartz? Not that it really matters (it'll still whoop a mechanical for accuracy) but looking at some of the replies there seems to be a confusion as to whether it's SQ or not.

Is this going to be more of a diver or a pilot's watch? If the latter you could sacrifice some water resistance for a loud alarm, like the X-33.

Here's the specification for the movement:

http://www.tz-uk.com/pics/988.432.pdf

Whilst some websites say that this is a "Superquartz", the spec sheet doesn't say this and it's usually on the front page if it is.

Eddie

Hi Eddie,

The 988.352 is a thermocompensated SQ movement that looks very similar. It's the movement used in the Breitling Aerospace, and is slightly smaller. Check here:

http://www.swisstime.ch/pgs/rwi-pgs-pro ... -1531.html

Cheers,
Andy

I think this is specially reserved for Breitling. When you go to the ETA website and search for it, you get

No technical documents are currently available for the chosen caliber or the chosen caliber does not exist.

Eddie

[poorman]

Hi Eddie,

That is a shame :x

Cheers,
Andy

[Filip]

Why can't you use the screw down crown? Seiko can do it fine with the H558 'Arnie' where you also have to set the digital part of the watch with the crown, which is screw down...

[swanbourne]

Why can't you use the screw down crown? Seiko can do it fine with the H558 'Arnie' where you also have to set the digital part of the watch with the crown, which is screw down...

They haven't made another on like it since then though.

Eddie

[markc]

It's a good movement - Omega, Rado, Breitling and Tissot have all used it - to name a few.

Here's mine...



Pilot or dress watch suit it best - IMHO.

Cheers,

[Sunnie]

The one-crown mechanism looks supremely elegant. Practically, it is a total pain in the arse to use to set alarms with -- too fiddly and requiring too much of a 'knack'. I've even had Breitling Sales Assistants say this. The B1 is a much more practical and USABLE watch than the Aerospace for this reason.

Couldn't we have a B1 (or x-33) -type movement, retaining the forward and back pushers but have them hidden in the body of the watch (like IWC used to with some of its chronographs) as a compromise preserving the great design ideas (esp the dark crystal which is inspired) presented in this thread together with the practical element?

Sunnie

[davek]

Concur the last post - my Chronospace was a real pain to set with the one knob solution - looks great, operates badly. Whilst the X-33 solution is better, one still can't rotate both ways around the functions. So, easy set and easy access to the functions - not a lot to ask (oh, and a loud x-33 style alarm!) And bi-directional bezel!!
Th B&R look is a bit passe methinks and will date quickly.
Please don't include a flight computer - a complete waste of time (trust me I'm a pilot) and adds too much clutter (check out the B-1, you can hardly make out the time!)
David

[ledgie]

I know I'm setting myself up here but......

any news on this project Eddie? :D

[swanbourne]

I know I'm setting myself up here but......

any news on this project Eddie? :D

I could say "NO" but truth be told, I'm still waiting for feedback from the case maker as to whether he knows what he's doing regarding the special case to ensure that the alarm works correctly.

Eddie

[DJG]

OK, if no news on this one Eddie, how's about the old Vanguard project???

Cheers
David

[ledgie]

I could say "NO" but truth be told, I'm still waiting for feedback from the case maker as to whether he knows what he's doing regarding the special case to ensure that the alarm works correctly.

Eddie

Thanks! By "ensure that the alarm works correctly" - does this mean that you need to be sure the alarm can be heard through the case? How is this normally done (as I'd guess big holes on the back would work but may cause other issues with water ingress etc! :) )

[DJG]

Thanks! By "ensure that the alarm works correctly" - does this mean that you need to be sure the alarm can be heard through the case? How is this normally done (as I'd guess big holes on the back would work but may cause other issues with water ingress etc! :) )[/quote]

Usually by use of a resonance chamber. The case proper is sealed but it has a chamber behind it with holes to allow the sound to resonate out of the case. Look at the back of JLC's Polaris or the Fan on the back of Breitling's B1.

David

[Darkman]

Cool project - love the movement.

[Christian]

RE: Superquartz versus quartz....

Breitling are the only manufacturer to get the superquartz. ETA wont sell it to anyone else I believe. I have read on other watch forums of some of the electronics enthusiasts that 'upgrade' their movement to superquartz, DIY style.

[Glamdring]

What movement is in the Dunhill DM7, then? Single crown controls all functions.

[swanbourne]

RE: Superquartz versus quartz....

Breitling are the only manufacturer to get the superquartz. ETA wont sell it to anyone else I believe. I have read on other watch forums of some of the electronics enthusiasts that 'upgrade' their movement to superquartz, DIY style.

Some of the Superquartz movements are developed exclusively for Breitling but not all of them.

Eddie

[searat]

RE: Superquartz versus quartz....

Breitling are the only manufacturer to get the superquartz. ETA wont sell it to anyone else I believe. I have read on other watch forums of some of the electronics enthusiasts that 'upgrade' their movement to superquartz, DIY style.

Sinn use the ETA 955.962 superquartz movement (as used in Breitling Colt quartz II) in the Sinn UX / UX GSG9, it might possibly also used by Bell & Ross in their type Marine and type Demineur - certainly a 955 but maybe not the .962 version?
Steve

[abraxas]

New user. The Montblanc Multi-Function.
http://www.montblanc-international.net/ ... ubKat=true

Real world pics. Nice but not cheap.
http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=250834

john

[andrew]

[img]
New user. The Montblanc Multi-Function.

Real world pics. Nice but not cheap.
http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=250834

Nice. That finish should go down well here - titanium, dark and bead-blasted with a finish that looks as rough as a badger's erse :). I like the hands too, and the way the date has its own location at 3 o'clock. And its backlit. Of the other users of this movement type it's only Breitling that I can think of that has a backlight.

[Glamdring]

The DM7 may not be backlit but it's very easy to read for displays of its kind.

[A.Pottinger]

New user. The Montblanc Multi-Function.
http://www.montblanc-international.net/ ... ubKat=true

Real world pics. Nice but not cheap.
http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=250834

john

That one with some Precista touches, and am rather certain it would be a great success and in keeping with the product image and usefulness as well as very versatile and stylish.

Great suggestion John.

Sincerely,
AP.

[clicker]

Maybe a silly question but could it be used in the dome watch?

http://www.tz-uk.com/forum/viewtopic...=72937&start=0

[abraxas]

Maybe a silly question but could it be used in the dome watch?

http://www.tz-uk.com/forum/viewtopic...=72937&start=0

The dome watch is going to be a 1000m diver.

john

[clicker]

Thanks John, I only just discovered the "I want to believe thread".
Stan.