I'd love to have a GMT and must say I prefer version 1.
Had a little play myself and wondered what you guys think of this look?
Just love the STOWA type face 8)
Cheers
TonyV
This is what I love about Eddie's watch designs -- great features and money-saving ideas all rolled into one.Originally Posted by swanbourne
20mm lugs would be great, anti-magnetic properties even better, use of an existing case a real money-saver.
Count me in! :lol:
The Stowa type face (which actually has been used by others as well), is very nice. I much prefer this type of design, or the IWC UTC type, which is close, to the detailed minute track style of Eddie's second proposal.I'd love to have a GMT and must say I prefer version 1.
Had a little play myself and wondered what you guys think of this look?
Just love the STOWA type face.
But, I really, really dislike the oval date window, as well as the placement/size/shape of the GMT window on this design. (Sorry, Tony, but you did ask....)
Unfortunately, I don't have Photoshop capability. Anybody interested in creating a Photoshop mockup of the non-chrono Speedbird 1903 case with a Stowa//IWC UTC dial with "Speedbird GMT" text and maybe the red-on-black GMT and date numbers we've discussed?
not sure about the windows either, but still think the overal face is great.
Great to be able to play with ideas.
Cheers
TonyV
You cannot differentiate the minute from the hour hand in a glance ...I'd love to have a GMT and must say I prefer version 1.
Had a little play myself and wondered what you guys think of this look?
Just love the STOWA type face 8)
Cheers
TonyV
Have you considered getting a Stowa perhaps? :wink:
john
Costume jewellery. Ouch!!!
But don't have a GMT :(
Also of course Eddie, just makes watches of incredible specifiaction and quality for the money.
Best
TonyV
I think they have a GMT at 1700Euros. I dodn't like it and it's too expensive.
but 1700 euros is way too rich for my blood anyway :(
I originally had a SpeedBird and let it go in a moment of total madness. I would be proud to own a GMT cousin.
So, if you build Eddie it, they will come. :wink:
Cheers
TonyV
I think the problem I have with the GMT window in Tony's proposed design is that I really want to be able to clearly see the current GMT hour as well as the numbers (not dots) before and after the current one.
I think the IWC UTC type GMT window does this very well, and we should stick with that type of design unless here is an alternative which is clearly superior to it...
Eddie, are you definitely planning to make the Speedbird GMT?
Will there also be a DN-GMT? If so, will the DN-GMT use a 24hr hand (instead of the 24hr window on the Speedbird GMT)?
Or will you only do one or the other, but not both?
Also, is there any news regarding the possibility of a DN dive chronograph?
I guess what I'm really asking for here is a status update on both pending (e.g. FA53, SM300, CAF, CAF Ltd. ed., etc.) projects, as well as possible additional projects (e.g. DN-GMT, Speedbird GMT, DN Dive Chronograph, etc.)
I can only speak for myself, but I'm unsure of scheduling (or even verification that the project is a "go") for several of these.
My budget can't accommodate all of these, but the more advance notice I have, the more I can make allowances for specific purchases...
I realize that there can be a lot of schedule slippage as these projects unfold, but could you please figure out a way to keep us updated on the status of each one? If you would prefer not to do that on the forum, then I would be open to email upates... Thanks!
I would like to do both the Speedbird GMT and the DN GMT Brian but a GMT is only worth doing if it's done with the modified movement, allowing the hour hand to be independently set without hacking the watch.
This movement is more difficult to get and the acquisition time is long. If I can get the movement, then both will happen; the DN with a GMT hand and the Speedbird with a window.
I would also like to make a DN chronograph and already have feelers out for this.
Eddie
Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".
I would love a DN chronograph hopefully by the time its produced I will have enough cash to buy one :)
hmmmm sounds very nice...
Even better a DN Chrono GMT "a la Kobold Polar Surveyor" Im sure you could do it for a lot less than $5k+ :wink:
http://www.koboldwatch.com/915151.htm
OK put my name down for #198 :lol:
-Amer
Speedbird GMT, DN GMT, DN Chrono - 3 must-have pieces, I'd better start getting the credit card into training!
Michael
The concept of the Kobold watch, combining UTC and a chrono, is very attractive. If there is any chance, Eddie, go for it!
BTW, is "surveyour" spelled correctly on Kobold's website? I thought it should be "surveyor", or is the "surveyour" the British English variant?
Crusader
Cheers,
Martin ("Crusader")
Thanks, Eddie! I am in total agreement with you (as are most here, I feel) about using only a "proper" GMT movment. (BTW, how did the "backwards" GMT movement become the standard ETA offering anyway? Curious, to say the least...)
While a combined DN GMT Chronograph does indeed sound attractive, we need to beware of "gilding the lily", so to speak. Remember, there is a VERY long lead time to obtain even a simple modified GMT movement, so if you are going to add a chrono module to that (e.g. Dubois Depraz), then you are talking even more additional time and lots of $$$$.
With any luck, Eddie's inquiries about a DN chronograph will be fruitful, and we can obtain one fairly soon, while continuing to save for a Speedbird GMT and DN-GMT, which will (due to delay in getting the "right" movements) be longer in coming.
Tactical DN chrono with 5100 movement and one subdial for hours only perhaps? :D
Ming
Tony, that's a fantastic looking dial! I like the slate blue with white.I'd love to have a GMT and must say I prefer version 1.
Had a little play myself and wondered what you guys think of this look?
Just love the STOWA type face 8)
Cheers
TonyV
I also like that you're moving away from the IWC look and creating something new. I think the real selling point of this watch is that it adds a GMT complication but doesn't add a lot of unneccesary clutter to the dial.
The Ulyses Nardin GMT watch also use an hour window, in my opinion very succesfully. I'll never be able to afford a UN, but I'd love to get my hands on the speedbird GMT.
Paul
Personally, I would just about KILL for any kind of a DN chrono with a Lemania 5100 movement.
Considering the restrictions being placed on the availability of that movement, though, it may be only a dream. (Unless Timefactors has been secretly acquired by the Swatch Group, and that would be a nightmare, I think! :shock: )
Didn't have the cash available for the DN, but would sell the kids, well the wife anyway for a chrono DN, psst, don't tell her I said that :wink:
But seriously, a DN with the 5100 movement would be awsome, I know it would be the watch of the year!
How hard are 5100 movements to get?
Something also worth considering Eddie, is the flush type buttons like on the Tutima NATO chrono. The design gives you 200m WR when using the chrono and also wouldn't snag when diving, now that would be incredible :D
Cheers
TonyV
Amen, brother!
I think you need a mask, a gun, and knowledge of the delivery truck's route... :shock: Eddie?
Yeah, that's a nice streamlined look. Hey, if it isn't a design patent, and is cost effective, sure. But nice sturdy screwdown pushers would be fine also IMHO.
Anybody know why Omega is one of the few (if not the only) manufacturers who say it is OK to operate the pushers underwater? Are their pushers somehow superior, or are they just more confident than others???
Do you think you can get enough? Just joking. But she is second-hand. The kids perhaps ... but with the influx of the East Europeans the prices are a bit low at the mo.
.
How about a ?PRS Power Reserve?? Power Reserve is all the range this year.
john
Costume jewellery. Ouch!!!
Araxas Wrote:
What do you mean second hand, (more like 20th) I have her logbook, she was a very popular model!! :twisted:Do you think you can get enough? Just joking. But she is second-hand. The kids perhaps ... but with the influx of the East Europeans the prices are a bit low at the mo.
God, I hope she doesn't read this.... :roll:
TonyV
5100s are impossible to get, but apparently there is a 7750 derivitave in the pipeline which has center minutes.
Ming
I would still like the idea of a Bullhead DN Chrono.
Just joking mate ... :D :D
john
Costume jewellery. Ouch!!!
Ming, I remember reading about this a while back. Was it Sinn that was behind it, or is old age catching up with me? Will it be widely available? Do you (or does anyone else out there) have any more info on this???
Sinn is developing a jumping chrono center-minute version of the 7750.
See http://www.sinn-uhren.de/LEXIKON/lexiko ... ag-002.htm
I think it is supposed to be available this year, but I'd give it another one or two years after it's out for initial product optimization.
Crusader
Cheers,
Martin ("Crusader")
I thought there was a sinn version with the jumping minutes, as well as an ETA one. But I might be wrong.
Ming
Blimey, I was joking too of course :twisted: ...of I love my wife... :lol:
Best
Tony
Here's my poor sffort at a DN chrono mock-up. I know the sub dials are incorrect, but waht about the overall look?
Sorry Eddie, if I've turned the DN into a monster just paly, kind of :evil:
OK let fly.....
Best
TonyV
Damn that looks good. What about using a tricompax 7753?
Ming
I think smaller second indicators on the dial are required and possibly 1/5s too.
Good start though :D
Phil
Those are pretty hard to get movements too, aren't they?
I suppose the benefit of the 5100 would be it's renowned ruggedness.
TonyV
The biggest challenge with the DN chrono, I suspect, will be that the inner diameter of the minute ring is pretty darn small. Fitting in the sub dials without breaching the minute marks will probably prove impossible.
Kevin
Any DN chrono will definitely be traditional tri-compax layout. Possibly orange dial as well.
Eddie
Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".
Any better?
Like the idea of an orange dial, very cool!
Cheers
Tony
That looks damn good, Tony. 8)
I like! I think orang dial might be a bit OTT though. Mmm tricompax...
Possibly consider also skeleton hands with lumed frames so it's easier to read the chrono subdials?
Ming
I was just thinking that
Possibly consider also skeleton hands with lumed frames so it's easier to read the chrono subdials?
TonyV
Nice mock-up Tony. Like the hands and pushers.
Michael.
Eddie, whichever design you finally choose, please keep it as analogue as possible.
No please no!!! :shock: Keep it black.
I like the skeleton hands thing to make it easier to read the dials.
Also Thumbs Up for the Tri-Compax dial decision. :)
-Amer
That''s great Tony :D I wonder if it'd be possible to keep the orange minute hand by using orange lume like on the 12 marker instead of the greenish stuff?
Ming
Keep it black dial and skeleton hands in the orange and white like the original DN. :)
Agreed. But damn it looks good. How we're going to pay for the darn things (CAF, SM300, FA53, DNGMT, DN-Chrono) is beyond me...
Ming
It's definitely gonna break the bank. :shock:
I hope and prey to the lord that Eddie spreads them out and keeps most of them non-LE. They're all gonna be fantastic watches and there will be definite orders such as the SM300 from me. It's just a question of deciding from the others. :D :)
Non-LE would enable us to spread the purchases out somewhat ...It's definitely gonna break the bank. :shock:
I hope and prey to the lord that Eddie spreads them out and keeps most of them non-LE. They're all gonna be fantastic watches and there will be definite orders such as the SM300 from me. It's just a question of deciding from the others. :D :)
Crusader
Cheers,
Martin ("Crusader")
I definately like this look better..
Cheers
TonyV
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