Reply With QuoteEnlighten me tosserOriginally Posted by seadog1408
Engerland is what England fans chant
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Enlighten me tosser
Engerland is what England fans chant
Last edited by hilly10; 26th August 2021 at 21:43.
Yeah, sure, but that might be missing the point when there are another solid five errors in an 82-word post.
What's your objection to the WC being held in Qatar? It'll be in November and December, and it'll be cooler than the last Euros. Alcohol will be available at the hotels, and in fan zones. (I don't know about in the actual stadiums.)
And if we consider that football is a world game, and enjoyed in many Muslim countries, by millions of teetotal fans, it starts to look as if you're a fan of drinking, rather than football. I had a great time in Doha when Liverpool won the FIFA Club World Cup Final in 2019. What's your problem?
Ah bless., There's more.
This. It's the biggest game by a long shot in the region. It's a great opportunity for the further development of the game.
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At the moment no alcohol at fans zones and definitely zero in stadiums.
I have no problem with drinking and football, just foreseeing the problems with the England fans.
The main issue are the appalling conditions workers have been subjected to. Minimum wage workers shouldn’t be expected to die to build football stadiums.
The next issue is that it’s non inclusive country, LGBT+ football fans would struggles to be themselves whilst in the country and women still don’t have equal opportunities. By awarding tge World Cup to them it confines their non progressive politics.
Then there’s the environmental cost, an entire football network being built for one tournament.
Also, there’s no pretending the decision was money driven. Good luck seeing any working class fans getting tickets.
I have no issue with alcohol not being available, it would almost feel more genuine if it wasn’t. If it’s their country so be it.
The aim is for most of the stadiums to be re-usable & moved elsewhere after the event:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuhA6cEHvfo
It will be interesting to see if it's actually working in practice.
Ah, football. The truly inclusive game!
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Looked at the supporters club - its £75 well spent. My mate who lives in Dubai said hell be able to get tickets through work - so well see how that works out.
Hoping to see atleast 1 England game!
Tickets have been released by FIFA for Phase 1 lottery - closes on 8th Feb.
Prices seem reasonable for the group matches and round of 16.
This.
I won’t watch a match, and I like my footy.
Got a new watch, divers watch it is, had to drown the bastard to get it!
doesnt look like its going well at all;
https://www.espn.co.uk/football/stor...lines-for-fans
https://www.insideworldfootball.com/...rty-providers/
oh and no alcohol inside the stadium only bud zero....
might be better watching on the telly anyway.
If they could not even have sufficient water available then my thoughts that this World Cup will be a shambles are confirmed!
Saying that this event was a test run and ‘lessons will be learned’ cuts no ice whatsoever given how close the World Cup is.
Delighted that I am not going!
Will not even watch it on the tv the whole thing is just so wrong on so many levels
I FEEL LIKE I'M DIAGONALLY PARKED IN A PARALLEL UNIVERSE
I agree with this. The only thing I can do to protest the venue is to not watch the World Cup so that’s what I’ll do.
I don't disagree with the sentiments regarding Qatar, but am betting should England progress to the knockout rounds we'll all be watching 🏴
The new England shirt for this tournament is hideous. The away is just a rip off of the Italia 90 Umbro one.
They could struggle, I think people think because of the semi and final rounds in the last 2 big tournaments they will get far again, but they had it very easy at the last world cup and the Euros. The team is much older and relies on Kane way too much. Southgate is a terrible manager to be honest.
No. I can't think of a worse place. Well, aside from Afghanistan.
Have you been there? I have, & there are plenty of worse places, some of them in the UK.
Yes I have, but I take your point.
As has been said a million times, the whole thing is a joke. The tournament will be missing some top players due to injuries caused by too many games in a condensed period in domestic leagues. The costs for 'regular' fans is totally prohibitive. As is the heat for many.
The impact worldwide just to line the pockets of one or maybe two individuals is staggering.
The temperature in late Nov will be <30
More likely 25
And due to the low humidity, won't feel that hot.
What happened to their plan to air con the stadiums, is that happening?
Nothing better than a care free trip to a beautiful cosmopolitan country, to drink, eat and enjoy the ambience while watching the footy.
Then there is the desert fake sh1thole that is Qatar. £12-£15 pints, a country that hates gay people and murder their construction workers.
Free tickets and free flights may tempt me, otherwise nah.
The purpose of hosting the World Cup in first of a kind locations is to promote football to the locals and expand its support in the region. This is just a bought and paid for vanity project like F1.
Don't think so.
I had a look at the website and they all seem to be open air.
Players and fans will manage fine.
It can get cold at night as the northerly wind and low humidity combine.
Ah maybe that was just some harebrained nonsense in the bid, before they upended the whole football calendar to accommodate it.
I feel the same but know I’ll get sucked in to the later stages. The price of my morals is that low.
It doesn't even feel like any other World Cup year imo... And I don't think it's just the timing. Usually there'd be excitement and build up but this year... Nothing. All feels a bit 'meh'
I won't be following any of it. My lad will have to watch it on his phone because I won't have it on the TV.
That won't have any effect on anything, but it will make me feel better about myself.
I know football has been a cesspool of corruption and greed for years now, but this World Cup is the final straw.
I have to be paid to go to the Middle East and paid handsomely - I would not go there for any other reason.
The more I read, the more I think that they never had any intention of accommodating fans. They just wanted to host it for prestige and for their own VIPs to watch it live
They even changed the date of the opening match not so long ago - caused issues for fans with flights and accommodations already booked!
https://www.skysports.com/football/n...on-november-20
It’ll be interesting to see what the atmosphere is like in the stadiums. Tbh fans have made it work in spite of the organisers for a while now, so many tickets allocated to corporate and sponsors
I see they are bringing in Turkish police to "help" with security - The Turkish police being known for their even-handness and ability to defuse a situation
And of course they are trying to boost their name in the international community....
Forget the human trafficking, slavery, killing of homosexuals, etc etc.... They are cool because they can host an international competition!
Next up .. the Cossacks!
Ukraine want Iran banned from the World Cup.
Appealing to FIFA’s moral compass only works when accompanied by brown envelopes stuffed with cash.
https://www.scotsman.com/news/politi...ed-out-3888993
Looks like an attempt at sports washing of the most cynical and obvious kind.
Wild horses couldn't etc.
Multilateralism, innit. I.e. Don't meddle in our internal affairs, not your business, look what a good visitor experience we provide, just pay and enjoy.
As global citizen consumers just don't pay/ participate, don't want to share our values, fine, don't get my bizzo. Same goes for holidays in places like Saudi where the defacto leader orders journos to be dismembered, among other not so civilised behaviours.
Obviously everyone makes their own choices/ values, spends it, as they see fit.
Last edited by Passenger; 1st November 2022 at 14:51.
Quite.
I think the gamble of multilateralism is that those who don't care (especially in government and industry) in the growing economies of South America, South East Asia, and even Africa, will hugely outweigh those who do care. Outweigh not just in numbers but, very soon, in spending ability. I reckon they've got a value bet there.
Hmm we'll see, don't the areas you mention face climate/ environmental challenges soonest, some of those bets could be rather short lived...nonetheless when the only power we have is where we choose to spend it, I'll stick with my principles.
Top players are dropping like flies and I guarantee there'll be a really high-profile withdrawal before now and kick off. Too many games crammed into a narrow window to make way for this tournament. The integrity of the tournament is being undermined. Not that it wasn't already I suppose.
It'll be like Hunger Games/Squid Game. Last one left standing wins it.
I just can't wait for it to be over so we can get back to club football. Club football is at a higher standard than International anyway.
Not for me, it’s football, and worse in Qatar.
A blatantly corrupt process at the heart of the biggest event for the most popular sport in the world for the second time running, involving hosts who use their fortuitous abundance of natural fossil fuels to empower their denial of human rights and impose war on neighbours. What's not to like?!
Slightly disappointed in Merton and Hislop as they had the perfect platform to slam Gary Neville on HIGNFY last night. They seemed to let him off lightly when questioning his motives for going.
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