I’m anti Celtic, and you know this how exactly?Originally Posted by Hood
What a bizarre comment.
I’m anti Celtic, and you know this how exactly?
What a bizarre comment.
Isn’t everyone anti Celtic, they are in the PSG, Bayern Munich category, boring, boring, boring in leagues with no opposition.
I’ve not seen you come across as anti Celtic. I am though. Can’t stand them or Scottish football. They’ve won the league and the cup again. So what? It’s not like it’s hard.
You can correct me if I am wrong and I have no intention of trawling through old posts on football but I have you as a Rangers fan.
Zero problem with that but I don't think your views on Celtic are particularly balanced in much the same way as mine would likely have a bias against Rangers despite thinking I was being balanced.
My opinion on Spurs appointing the Celtic manager has nothing to do with being pro or anti Celtic or pro or anti Rangers but you really need to take your blinkers off and be a bit more objective regarding this.
Celtic are in a league where there are really only 2 winners and for the past decade or more only one with Rangers out the picture so winning the SPL is hardly a major accomplishment. Ange came in while Rangers lost their manager and the following season lost several players in sales then lost a second manger. I said in a previous post you really need to look at how Celtic played against any decent opposition in Europe and under Ange they have been dreadful. This is a team that were knocked out of 3 competitions in Europe in one season. This season Rangers only beat them to the worst results in Europe by a couple of points that really doesnt bode well for a manager coming into the premier league trying to turn around a squad, bring in players and try and compete with the likes of City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Man U, Newcastle for a top four finish not to mention those teams just outside that who will all be looking for a European place.
I said in a previous post Gerard should never have left Rangers if he had any hope of competing in England he should have stayed a few years up there won consecutive trophies up there and made Rangers a respectable team in Europe (But apparently I am anti Celtic!) Ange has won in a league thats not even championship standard and is now going to a team that were in the champions league final a few years back.
If he does well then fair enough but how Spurs are going at the moment reminds me of Liverpool under the 2 American owners.
I have no idea whether Ange will be successful at Spurs or not as it's a big step up playing in the premiership as opposed to Scotland.
What I do know is that Celtic were a shambles when he took over 2 summers ago and had lost half their team.
Rangers were settled under Gerrard(they hadn't lost their manager as you said ) and had won the league by a country mile the previous season.
Ange brought in a few of his own players and installed an ethos into the squad that everyone bought into including a very sceptical fan base after the Eddie Howe deal fell through.
What I can say is that I don't see him as any lesser a managerial talent than say Brendan Rodgers and if he is considered good enough to be in the frame then I don't see why not Postecoglou.
It would be fair to say Rodgers results with Celtic in Europe weren't setting the heather alight either.
Regards competition in Scotland it's not really Celtic's fault that Rangers haven't managed to drum up a decent challenge in 6 of the last 7 years and yeh the standard of the remaining teams is particularly poor and definitely hinders Celtic and Rangers when they need to step up to better opposition.
I think what may determine whether he is successful or not at Spurs should it happen will be if he can get the big egos on board with his philosophy and playing style.If he gets them to buy in then he's got a chance but if not then it will be a short reign.
We shall see.
Whether Postegoclu does well at Spurs is anybodies guess, what we do know is in a head to head with Gerrard, Gerrard won more points. In a head to head with Beale, Beale won more points.
In a 2 horse race if you don’t win it you end up managing in the Cypriot league just like Lennon.
Getting out while the getting is good, just like Rodger’s and Gerrard
Lol
C'mon Speedy you've normally got some sensible stuff to say.
Do you honestly think firstly Rodgers left Celtic for Leicester because he was scared of Gerard(5 points clear at the time he left and with the arse having fallen out of Rangers challenge after Christmas).
Or that Ange would jump ship to Spurs because he's having sleepless nights about Beale.
Don't want to turn this premiership thread into a Celtic/Rangers thing so I'll leave it at that.
Nearly there.
I will be made up for David Moyes, shame he couldn’t have won his first trophy with Everton, but richly deserved.
Precisely my point and look how it ended up for Gerrard.
Gerrard was an inexperienced manager and nearly fell on his sword the previous season after the Scottish cup defeat by Hearts.
He got lucky in the Covid season as Celtic had an alcoholic Lennon at the helm and the team imploded with no fans to drive them on.
One thing I will give Gerrard or Beale is that they knew exactly how to set up a team for European ties, something he'll have mastered from Liverpool days.
Postecoglou is 58. He's been round the block a bit and done well anywhere he has gone. He's earned his shot at mixing it in a top league.
He will go with most Celtic fans blessings and I hope he does well in spite of the chairman.
Gerrard jumped ship after winning the league leaving Rangers in the lurch, Gio had a decent run in Europe but clearly couldnt handle the SPL and players were starting to turn on him. Rangers lost players that took them to the Europa league final and then had a horrific injury run. Rogers went to Celtic to build up his career again after Liverpool in a country where he was pretty much nailed on the win it. I dont really see your point on Rogers win rate in Europe he had being the Liverpool manger under his belt, of course he could come back to England and land a decent job. Spurs fans will want at the very least a decent challenge for top four do you honestly see that happening with him up against Pep, Klopp, Poch, Ten Hag? Not to mention Eddie Howe with a blank cheque book and champions league football to look forward to and a fair few other teams pushing for Europe. This is why I think its utter madness nothing to do with Celtic/Rangers.
Well done The Irons
I had actually been backing West Ham before this game but they have been utterly awful, if they win this the better team lost.
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