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    Russian civil war

    Moscow buiding a blockade around the city now. Rumours Putin has left Kremlin (fwiw). Wagner HQ in St.Petersburg raided by FSB, millions in cash taken.

    Wagner convoy attacked

    All from Twitter

    Media catching up , must be chaos and hard to get verification

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    Rumours prisoners rioting and trying to escape all over Russia

    Nope if this is verified

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    Been reading up for last hour but hard to really get a grasp on what’s actually happened.

    I need it spelled out. Or is it as simple as….The Vagner group has turned on Putin’s army and decided to try and take over.

    Surely this would probably mean an end to the war in Ukraine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr noble View Post
    Been reading up for last hour but hard to really get a grasp on what’s actually happened.

    I need it spelled out. Or is it as simple as….The Vagner group has turned on Putin’s army and decided to try and take over.

    Surely this would probably mean an end to the war in Ukraine?
    Hard to get info, main media take time to verify so it's from secondary outlets

    It's serious for Putin, very

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    The Wagner Group have been raping and murdering Ukrainian women and children so worth pointing this out in case anyone's under the illusion of a 'Happy Ever After' moment

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    Putin did staff the group with serving convicts, who were supposedly sent to the front as cannon fodder and now there’s shock that these guys ain’t happy. If they can get rid of Putin we can take it from there.

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    I’ve read the last few pages of the Bear Pit thread so up to speed now. Kind of.

    What a twist! New chapter in our kid’s history books being written.

    Could go in so many directions. I’m not sure any of them are much better for the west.

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    Russian civil war

    Looking at the speed of advancement over just a few hours and lack of current opposition I will be surprised if Putler is still in power by the end of tomorrow.
    Last edited by Lammylee; 24th June 2023 at 18:13.

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    Assuming Putin doesn’t roll up their rear and obliterate them when they get closer to Moscow.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lammylee View Post
    Looking at the speed of advancement over just a few hours and lack of current opposition I will be surprised if Putler is still in power by the end of tomorrow.

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    Is it all over?

    Belarus seem to have stepped in and brokered a deal. Vagner turning back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr noble View Post
    Is it all over?

    Belarus seem to have stepped in and brokered a deal. Vagner turning back.
    Yep. I'm sure both parties are very honourable and will hold up their side of the bargain.....

    TBH Wagner had zero chance of taking Moscow and they were 200 kms away. I suspect he was 'advised' that his convoy was soon to be turned into a giant kill zone and that changed his thinking seeing as his hoped for joining arms of other Russian kingpins didn't materialise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveya. View Post
    Rumours prisoners rioting and trying to escape all over Russia

    Nope if this is verified

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    I hope the whole place implodes, and the world can get back to a better place.

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    Maybe the world was moments away from a regime change in Russia. Now not to be.

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    darn it, Ukraine needed a long massive battle in Moscow to have a chance to take back land. I cant see them taking back much land now myself

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    The Wagner Group have been raping and murdering Ukrainian women and children so worth pointing this out in case anyone's under the illusion of a 'Happy Ever After' moment
    Is that another gem straight from GB News then ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by reggie747 View Post
    Is that another gem straight from GB News then ??
    Sorry are you inferring then that Wagner have in fact been handing out candy and water in Ukraine instead of committing atrocities?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    Sorry are you inferring then that Wagner have in fact been handing out candy and water in Ukraine instead of committing atrocities?
    Ryan calm down . To be fair to Reggie I think he's just asking simply for verification...
    before he packs his gimp suit and offers himself up as a Wagner play thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by robert75 View Post
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    Absolutely Reggie is entitled to live his life any way he wants and I for one will throw down at anyone who persecutes him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    Sorry are you inferring then that Wagner have in fact been handing out candy and water in Ukraine instead of committing atrocities?
    Really, no need for an apology from you Ryan - I'm just curious where that snippet came from ?
    Wasn't perchance from one of our daily propaganda rags was ?
    Or maybe you have your own super source of global information.
    I mean, it was a "definitive" statement you made.
    Asking for a friend, obviously.....

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    It was pretty clear to me it came from your insinuation. You gave them a pass they do not deserve, and if you can’t see it you should do some soul searching.
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    Yevgeny Prigozhin might be well advised to be wary of men carrying umbrellas.
    Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    Yevgeny Prigozhin might be well advised to be wary of men carrying umbrellas.
    or dropping the soap in the shower....either way he's scr*wed.

    Interesting massive climb down....wonder if he knows Phil ? 😀

    Best Neil

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    Seen suggested he could now be Putin’s man in Belarus so a good outcome for both of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robert75 View Post
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    +1

    This is the public part of the forum.

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    I always forget about the boys room

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    The Wagner Group have been raping and murdering Ukrainian women and children so worth pointing this out in case anyone's under the illusion of a 'Happy Ever After' moment
    Unlike the regular Ruzzian army?
    Someone who lies about the little things will lie about the big things too.

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    Russian civil war

    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    The Wagner Group have been raping and murdering Ukrainian women and children so worth pointing this out in case anyone's under the illusion of a 'Happy Ever After' moment
    A bit like the allies did across Europe in 1944 so don’t start the holier than though rubbish.


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    Last edited by aa388; 25th June 2023 at 12:23.

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