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    Sadly, it's going to be a long game (and no, I do not consider it a game). Cover ups, aggressive pursuit with little/no evidence etc., etc..........
    When you look long into an abyss, the abyss looks long into you.........

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    The more that comes out, the more staggering it is.

    I’m finding it genuinely impossible to get my head around the fact that a significant number of senior leaders at the Post Office, Fujitsu, and even law firms clearly knew there was a potential problem and yet were still prepared to see people they must have realised were potentially innocent be ruined and go to prison.

    This isn’t just a corporate, technical or even legal failure. It’s a profound collective moral failure of incomprehensible proportions.

    What were they thinking?

    There really has to be prosecutions and punishment for those who allowed this to happen when they knew these convictions were deeply unsafe.
    So clever my foot fell off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFlyingBanana View Post
    The more that comes out, the more staggering it is.

    I’m finding it genuinely impossible to get my head around the fact that a significant number of senior leaders at the Post Office, Fujitsu, and even law firms clearly knew there was a potential problem and yet were still prepared to see people they must have realised were potentially innocent be ruined and go to prison.

    This isn’t just a corporate, technical or even legal failure. It’s a profound collective moral failure of incomprehensible proportions.

    What were they thinking?

    There really has to be prosecutions and punishment for those who allowed this to happen when they knew these convictions were deeply unsafe.
    The convictions were just flat out wrong, lives deliberately ruined by a travesty of 'justice' for a PO, Fujitsu cover up and Government couldn't be bothered to right the wrong until it was on the telly...maybe because Fujitsu are up to their nuts in running almost every aspect of the state machinery...what a time to be alive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jubal View Post
    You´d imagine the police would be kicking down her door to have a chat: Conspiracy to pervert the course of Justice carries a 7 year sentence, well it´s a start at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Passenger View Post
    You´d imagine the police would be kicking down her door to have a chat: Conspiracy to pervert the course of Justice carries a 7 year sentence, well it´s a start at least.
    And Dido Harding?
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    Quote Originally Posted by number2 View Post
    And Dido Harding?
    Personally I'm for cleansing the Augean stables from top to bottom but given the filthy state of the Thames that's going be bloody tricky...As my granddad used to say ''they want shooting''.

    The state itself could use a reboot as there's a pronounced tendency towards malfeasance, corruption and waste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Passenger View Post
    You´d imagine the police would be kicking down her door to have a chat: Conspiracy to pervert the course of Justice carries a 7 year sentence, well it´s a start at least.
    Yeah… like they did with partygate… all the overwhelming evidence was right there in the public domain but the MET seemed to either not see it or were waiting for Johnson and his cronies to fess up out of a sense of decency and integrity…

    That said, a whopping 4% of those now burgled stand a chance of having the perpetrators brought to justice* some years down the line once the courts immense backlog is cleared, although they almost certainly won’t go to prison due to lack of spaces.




    *provided the burglars leave a photo of themselves carrying a bag marked “swag” and a signed confession along with their name, address and phone number at the scene, obviously.
    So clever my foot fell off.

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    Yeah… like they did with partygate… all the overwhelming evidence was right there in the public domain but the MET seemed to either not see it or were waiting for Johnson and his cronies to fess up out of a sense of decency and integrity…

    That said, a whopping 4% of those now burgled stand a chance of having the perpetrators brought to justice* some years down the line once the courts immense backlog is cleared, although they almost certainly won’t go to prison due to lack of spaces.




    *provided the burglars leave a photo of themselves carrying a bag marked “swag” and a signed confession along with their name, address and phone number at the scene, obviously.
    I've just sorted out our CCTV, if you haven't got a clear picture of their faces and holding up their passports forget the police, all the adverts on TV for monitoring make me laugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFlyingBanana View Post
    Yeah… like they did with partygate… all the overwhelming evidence was right there in the public domain but the MET seemed to either not see it or were waiting for Johnson and his cronies to fess up out of a sense of decency and integrity…

    That said, a whopping 4% of those now burgled stand a chance of having the perpetrators brought to justice* some years down the line once the courts immense backlog is cleared, although they almost certainly won’t go to prison due to lack of spaces.




    *provided the burglars leave a photo of themselves carrying a bag marked “swag” and a signed confession along with their name, address and phone number at the scene, obviously.
    This is the way.

    The situation is at a very critical pass, it's embarrassingly obvious there is a completely bifurcated legal/justice system, educational system, political system.

    Corporate entities and practically anyone else with deep enough pockets, we really aren't choosy, if you can pay to play you too can enjoy special access, political influence, greater protections, more rights......Laughably, and I did watch it in the finish, even in that popular entertainment programme du jour, The Gentleman, a similar observation is made by one of the characters in a latter episode, the way the British state was designed from way back, for gangsters, to run on ancient deferential traditions!... the Establishment always protects it's own, retains power/control for itself...to the detriment of those beneath them, who nevertheless count themselves blessed to receive crumbs, GSTK and the Nhs!

    Yet as this scandalous but far from unique episode demonstrates it's a real swizz, costs and ruins innocent lives.
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