Reply With QuoteMy thoughts exactly, with time the lume (and the watch) will look old, no need to hurry that. :wink:Originally Posted by warburton
That said, old lume won't be a deal breaker, but will lower its priority on my list.
Standard lume would not be a deal breaker for me, but I think the aged effect fits the retro aspect of this model perfectly.
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David
My thoughts exactly, with time the lume (and the watch) will look old, no need to hurry that. :wink:
That said, old lume won't be a deal breaker, but will lower its priority on my list.
take off the dial and hands, soak them in tea for about 10 minutes each and bam aged lume, which is officially called "yak piss" color on some other forums. Can I have the c3 version please?
I too was thinking the same. Maybe the obsession for aged lume if for the flippers who don't keep a watch long enough :lol::roll:
You may as well have said "faked lume" because that's exactly what it is.
+1 for exactly the same reason.
Standard lume for me please.
if it had aged lume then would you not have to put the watch itself in a rock tumbler to make the rest of the watch have that "been there-done that" look?
Taste is subjective. We can argue this till the end of times but truth is there will always be people who think that the chosen road was wrong. IŽd personally like this watch to have the "yak piss" lume. It would provide something new that Time Factors watches have never had so far and it would underline the vintage styling of the watch. IMO yak piss rocks! :lol:
Last week I received a card printed with 4 different shades of aged lume. After exposure to light all are as bright as regular lume but after 10 minutes, there's nothing.
Eddie
Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".
Hmmm. The "aged" lume on my Tutima FX glows like crazy Eddie. Very bright still after a few hours.
Do you want me to send it over to you for a closer look?
I'm not as think as you drunk I am.
Given the number of watches Tutima makes, they can probably justify the thousands of euros it costs for a kilo (minimum quantity) of aged Superluminova.Hmmm. The "aged" lume on my Tutima FX glows like crazy Eddie. Very bright still after a few hours.
Do you want me to send it over to you for a closer look?
Eddie
Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".
You got a point there. :(Given the number of watches Tutima makes, they can probably justify the thousands of euros it costs for a kilo (minimum quantity) of aged Superluminova.Hmmm. The "aged" lume on my Tutima FX glows like crazy Eddie. Very bright still after a few hours.
Do you want me to send it over to you for a closer look?
Btw, who really makes Tutima? Guess they just do the assembling...?
Sorry for OT.
I'm not as think as you drunk I am.
Fricker made the cases for Tutima for a long time; I don't know whether they still do.
Eddie
Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".
I have a couple of watches with "aged lume" I had custom done and get pretty much the same results, though I have to admit it does make them look the part.
Valid point.
I wonder how is it possible then that guys (Wiegand, Parks etc.) who make custom dials can have vintage lume that both looks the part and maintains the glow? I gather they dont make those dials in bigger quantities than what we are talking about here regarding the new PRS-50? Have you checked what Cador can provide yet Eddie?
In another thread Bob Frasier showed that only blue and green had good lume and that red didn't last long at all. 'Aged' and 'lume' don't seem to go together, even if the 'aged' is pretend.
I know kent parks custom makes his for each batch by adding coloring to normal lume as he was the one who did mine. One the one hand it seems the dial makers could pretty easily add a little orange to the liquid lume to make it "aged," but on the other I would assume there are pretty tight tolerances for the viscocity of the liquid lume as it applied. My guess would be that for a run of 50 or a 100 dials they would simply price it by doubling the cost.
The tea method works amazingly well, and even creates a slight inconsistentcy to the color that makes it look even more authentic.
This was stated WRT the colour emitted in the dark, which is not necessarily than the colour of the lume in the light. Bob'd test doesn't really help us directly draw conclusions about aged lume. As reported above, I have a custom-dialed watch which Kent Parks lumed with aged luminous material (previous owner's choice) and it glows more brightly and longer in the dark than 95% of my modern watches.
This brings up the point that there is a lot more to the subjective brightness of lume than just what it is made of or what colour it is.
So why not do this the easy way? Lets do it with C3 and and have the hands/dial dipped in earl grey before putting the watches together in the factory. Shouldn't be too hard? You could then call it a genuine T dial despite the fact that it has no tritium what so ever :lol:
excellent plan, wonder if single malt would have the same affect on the dial... too much of it always makes me feel "aged"
So, what's the next step ?
A date of availability ?
Cordialement
Not yet, I've just received another sample of lume. If this doesn't work, then it will go ahead with regular C3.So, what's the next step ?
A date of availability ?
Cordialement
Eddie
Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".
any luck with the new lume samples Eddie?
Uh, oh.... must have been radium?!?
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I'm not as think as you drunk I am.
Mmmmmmmm
:shufflesintolineforone:
That's great for me - only thing that stopped me from getting the Mk 1 was the no radiation logo. Better get saving!
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DC
It's bright as a bright thing initially but the afterglow is poor and short-lived :( .
Eddie
Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".
:(
Sounds a bit like my marriage.
I'm not as think as you drunk I am.
welcome to the club
:wink:
me toowelcome to the club
:wink:
Good luck everybody. Have a good one.
So, are you going to try another option or going straight to C3?It's bright as a bright thing initially but the afterglow is poor and short-lived :( .
Eddie
Good question. I have another lead for a different company but when do you stop?So, are you going to try another option or going straight to C3?It's bright as a bright thing initially but the afterglow is poor and short-lived :( .
Eddie
Eddie
Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".
When you're satisfied Eddie :wink:
The relentless pursuit of ones ideal is what keeps us upright. No compromise !
When that part of one's customer base not obsessed with fake-old ineffective lume is in danger of fading away in disappointment :twisted:
...but what do I know; I don't even like watches!
Not like my marriage then... :(
May be one last test (chance ?) ?
I spoke with the manufacturer of the new PRS-50 today and he said that he would expect at least a 3 month test of the lume before committing to manufacturing dials. That being the case, I'm proceeding with the new PRS-50 with standard C3 for the first production run.
Eddie
Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".
Ouch! Sounds like a sensible plan, Eddie. Looking forward to seeing those.
Dave E
Skating away on the thin ice of a new day
Agreed... 3 months is a long wait, will be interesting if that lume DOES make the grade in due course but pleased you're going ahead with C3 for now :)
Jeez guys - step away :arrow:me toowelcome to the club
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When you look long into an abyss, the abyss looks long into you.........
First production in C3, Ok for me.
3 months more test for the other Lume.
So, a date of availability for the C3 version, bezel font and "Great Britain" position are ok ?
Cordialement
In a sense that's great news, as it allows to get both worlds happy. The non-aged lume fans (like me) are happy and I hope that aged lume fans will be satisfied after the new tests.
The reason he suggested evaluating for 3 months was because he's had experience with aged lume before and he said it's very important to leave it exposed to natural light for at least 3 months to test the colour stability of the lume. It would be a bit of a disaster to produce dials with the desired colour, only to discover that it changes to a non-desired colour.
Eddie
Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".
A little like what's happened to some Dreadnoughts where the orange hands and dial triangle have faded over the years... not that it's a non-desired colour.
This looks stunning. Have always loved the FF. :bounce:
I am very much with the no date crew.
Any thoughts on when it will become available Eddie?
Zim
Sorry Eddie,
Ignore my question above. Have just read the whole thread.
Would definitely be interested in one though. :bounce:
Interesting, and good, news. The lume on my pseudo-aged 'Tudorfish' dial has remained stable over the past couple of years, but I could see that possibly some less UV-stable dyes might be used and so some caution is warranted. The sooner the better IMO. It's not as if the bloom is off the PRS-50 rose, but I'm really looking forward to this new version :bounce:
I hope you haven't considered radium :lol:
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Griff.
Just think,
We could have Tea-Great Britain-Tea on the dials. That'd show all those coffee swilling Continentalists :D :D
Tim
:laughing3: :D :D
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