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    New Spanish designed dive watch to go to 5000m

    Following my earlier post about Barcelona I ended up looking here http://www.pita.es/jsp/modeloceana.jsp. The Pita Oceana is an interesting new watch made by this Spanish watchmaker. Patented features include a one piece case and a nifty way of overcoming water resistance by doing away with the conventional crown / stem.

    No prices on the website but I've been advised that the base model will be 3500 euros when it's released in September 09. Too rich for me but an interesting development.

    Cheers - Simon

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    Re: New Spanish designed dive watch to go to 5000m

    Quote Originally Posted by Gurmot
    Following my earlier post about Barcelona I ended up looking here http://www.pita.es/jsp/modeloceana.jsp. The Pita Oceana is an interesting new watch made by this Spanish watchmaker. Patented features include a one piece case and a nifty way of overcoming water resistance by doing away with the conventional crown / stem.

    No prices on the website but I've been advised that the base model will be 3500 euros when it's released in September 09. Too rich for me but an interesting development.

    Cheers - Simon
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    Re: New Spanish designed dive watch to go to 5000m

    Wow never seen this before, some very interesting concepts going on there.

    9.8mm thick crystal !!!!! :shock:

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    Re: New Spanish designed dive watch to go to 5000m

    5000m seems just a little bit over the top but interesting as a technical exercise I suppose, I wonder if those pressure testing devices can recreate anything like as deep?
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    Re: New Spanish designed dive watch to go to 5000m

    I've seen this before, apparently you can set the watch under water... Doesn't mention why you should wish to! They seem to have solved a problem that didn't exist. Jolly pretty though :D

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    Re: New Spanish designed dive watch to go to 5000m

    Quote Originally Posted by Parabola
    I've seen this before, apparently you can set the watch under water... Doesn't mention why you should wish to! They seem to have solved a problem that didn't exist. Jolly pretty though :D
    Oh I don't know. What happens if you accidentally cross a time zone whilst 5000m under? Could come in handy. :roll:

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    Re: New Spanish designed dive watch to go to 5000m

    Quote Originally Posted by Parabola
    ...apparently you can set the watch under water...
    ...but you need to take it off to do so as the time-set mechanism is locked when wearing. Wouldn't want to drop it in 5,000m of water.

    Incidentally, does the ocean go that deep?

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    Re: New Spanish designed dive watch to go to 5000m

    Quote Originally Posted by jonnymorris
    Quote Originally Posted by Parabola
    ...apparently you can set the watch under water...
    ...but you need to take it off to do so as the time-set mechanism is locked when wearing. Wouldn't want to drop it in 5,000m of water.

    Incidentally, does the ocean go that deep?
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    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    Re: New Spanish designed dive watch to go to 5000m

    Given that a 5000m the wearer would be crushed to the size of an eggcup, it does seem a little pointless....

    No?
    So clever my foot fell off.

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    Re: New Spanish designed dive watch to go to 5000m

    Quote Originally Posted by seikopath
    Quote Originally Posted by jonnymorris
    Quote Originally Posted by Parabola
    ...apparently you can set the watch under water...
    ...but you need to take it off to do so as the time-set mechanism is locked when wearing. Wouldn't want to drop it in 5,000m of water.

    Incidentally, does the ocean go that deep?
    yes
    Indeed, Marianas Trench is over 10,000m if memory serves

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    Re: New Spanish designed dive watch to go to 5000m

    As a famous forumer said before, I appreciate overengineering 8) :mrgreen:

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    Re: New Spanish designed dive watch to go to 5000m

    I'd wear it at work - I'm often under a lot of pressure there :D

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    Re: New Spanish designed dive watch to go to 5000m

    Marianas Trench is 10911 meters at its deepest known spot, can't wait to see a watch to be resistant to over that depth :lol: :lol: :lol: ( 100mm diameter ball on the wrist called Picard Trieste or Rolex Deep Sea if they ever produce it in series) For now the http://www.20000feet.com/? is the record holder. The Spanish team took too long to bring out their fine watch else they would have made a bomb with it. Been over four years since their first press release in 2005. Fair play to them for their try and difference in design. In practice utterly useless and too expensive.

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    Re: New Spanish designed dive watch to go to 5000m

    Quote Originally Posted by Dibetu
    Marianas Trench is 10911 meters at its deepest known spot, can't wait to see a watch to be resistant to over that depth :lol: :lol: :lol:<snip>
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    Re: New Spanish designed dive watch to go to 5000m

    Quote Originally Posted by jwg663
    Quote Originally Posted by Dibetu
    Marianas Trench is 10911 meters at its deepest known spot, can't wait to see a watch to be resistant to over that depth :lol: :lol: :lol:<snip>
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    The only thing with the oil filled quartz watches is that the quartz crystal implodes at just over 5000 meters, the case will hold the pressure but the watch wont't work down there so not very honest marketing!
    The thing I love so much about the oil filled watches is that the guy that invented them and owns the patent used a plastic swatch case to test them and get the pantent registered and brought out a cheap plastic watch before all the others purchased his invention and claimed the faim.
    The Rolex deep Sea from 1960 went down all the way to the bottom and kept perfect time but was a mechanical watch and was never brought to production; we are nearly getting there now, won't be long before its fashion to have the 100mm ball on the wrist. :lol:

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    Re: New Spanish designed dive watch to go to 5000m

    Quote Originally Posted by Dibetu
    Fair play to them for their try and difference in design. In practice utterly useless and too expensive.

    +1


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    Re: New Spanish designed dive watch to go to 5000m

    A platinum dive watch? More evidence, if it was needed, of utter stupidity.

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    Re: New Spanish designed dive watch to go to 5000m

    Quote Originally Posted by TheFlyingBanana
    Given that a 5000m the wearer would be crushed to the size of an eggcup, it does seem a little pointless....

    No?
    I have probably said this a couple of times before but the depth rating is not the intended diving depth of a commercial diver its about having a working watch at commercial diving depths (circa <200m) where it is subjected to movement, shock and impact as part of the divers work.

    That Swiss military chrono has a chrono, why a diver needs a chrono I dont know and I am sure that the chrono doesnt function at 20,000ft! :) It goes on to quote smashing the DS record, although they show some guniess world record scan. The DS was tested in accordance with ISO 6425 (Divers watches standard) and Rolex used the equipment that they had developed with COMEX. The DS had to achieve 25% safety factor over its depth rating i.e. 16,000ft.

    However I do think that Pita looks pretty smart :)

    2p... :D

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    Re: New Spanish designed dive watch to go to 5000m

    Daft. Some interesting tech, but that didn't save the DeepSea's bacon, so why should it here. And half of it appears to be dedicated to setting the watch at 5,000m (using what as your reference source, exactly?). So not just daft, but possibly even stupid :roll:
    ...but what do I know; I don't even like watches!

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    Re: New Spanish designed dive watch to go to 5000m

    Quote Originally Posted by BigD
    Quote Originally Posted by TheFlyingBanana
    Given that a 5000m the wearer would be crushed to the size of an eggcup, it does seem a little pointless....

    No?
    I have probably said this a couple of times before but the depth rating is not the intended diving depth of a commercial diver its about having a working watch at commercial diving depths (circa <200m) where it is subjected to movement, shock and impact as part of the divers work.
    I guess that might have been true of the DeepSea in the 60s, but a commercial diver now is surely going to use a dive computer, maybe with something like a prospex quartz as back up, rather than a platinum mechanical watch costing several thousand euros!

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    Re: New Spanish designed dive watch to go to 5000m

    You could allways use it as a wrecking-ball, probably is just as heavy :) .
    And a nearly 1cm thick crystal :shock: , and I thought my glasses were thick :D .

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    Re: New Spanish designed dive watch to go to 5000m

    Quote Originally Posted by momentum
    Quote Originally Posted by BigD
    Quote Originally Posted by TheFlyingBanana
    Given that a 5000m the wearer would be crushed to the size of an eggcup, it does seem a little pointless....

    No?
    I have probably said this a couple of times before but the depth rating is not the intended diving depth of a commercial diver its about having a working watch at commercial diving depths (circa <200m) where it is subjected to movement, shock and impact as part of the divers work.
    I guess that might have been true of the DeepSea in the 60s, but a commercial diver now is surely going to use a dive computer, maybe with something like a prospex quartz as back up, rather than a platinum mechanical watch costing several thousand euros!
    In my experience of working on DSVs there are plenty divers still diving with SDs and Subs, granted there are a lot who wear Gshocks among other things. There is a DS currently in the North Sea diving...

    http://diving-watch.net/ROLEX-DEEP-SEA-

    I have never seen a commercial diver, be it air diving or saturation diving, using a dive computer. I assume this is because there is no need as the Diver Supervisor and Life Support Supervisor are constantly watching the gauges to make sure they boys are okay.

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    Re: New Spanish designed dive watch to go to 5000m

    Quote Originally Posted by andrew
    Daft. Some interesting tech, but that didn't save the DeepSea's bacon, so why should it here. And half of it appears to be dedicated to setting the watch at 5,000m (using what as your reference source, exactly?). So not just daft, but possibly even stupid :roll:
    I would agree with that, for want of a better phrase it sounds a little gimmiky.

    There does not appear to be much love for the DS around these parts :|

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    Re: New Spanish designed dive watch to go to 5000m

    To be fair, I think the time-setting ability at 5000m is a consequence rather than a particular design aim. The main aim was to remove the crown and hence the need for crown seals.

    Interesting design anyway. It's not the prettiest of watches and setting the time looks like a bit of a faff (having to take the watch off and then it seems a fairly stiff mechanism) but it's good that people have been innovating.

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    Re: New Spanish designed dive watch to go to 5000m

    Quote Originally Posted by Dibetu
    ... In practice utterly useless and too expensive.
    Thank God that they are the only ones in the entire history of entire watch industry who have ever made that error.

    Best wishes,
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    Re: New Spanish designed dive watch to go to 5000m

    Oh, and too expensive? Imagine if one of the big boys came out with such an innovative mechanism. It would be a hell of a lot more expensive than €3500. In that respect the Pita's a bargain.

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    Re: New Spanish designed dive watch to go to 5000m

    Quote Originally Posted by mark a.
    Oh, and too expensive? Imagine if one of the big boys came out with such an innovative mechanism. It would be a hell of a lot more expensive than €3500. In that respect the Pita's a bargain.
    Agree but given the fact that it has no practical application, its actually unpractical... but then the watch world is full of that or consists of gadgets with no purpose, otherwise we would all walk around with a cell phone.

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    Re: New Spanish designed dive watch to go to 5000m

    Quote Originally Posted by rfrazier
    Quote Originally Posted by Dibetu
    ... In practice utterly useless and too expensive.
    Thank God that they are the only ones in the entire history of entire watch industry who have ever made that error.

    Best wishes,
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    Re: New Spanish designed dive watch to go to 5000m

    got to say i quite like it 5000m

    how long would it take to get down that far need good lume :shock:

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    Re: New Spanish designed dive watch to go to 5000m

    Quote Originally Posted by Dibetu
    Agree but given the fact that it has no practical application, its actually unpractical...
    No crown to get knocked or stick into your hand, no chunky crown guards, no thread stripping, no fiddly screwing and unscrewing, no seals to leak...

    Not deal-breakers by any means (otherwise none of us would have watches), but it does seem to me that there's a practical application beyond 5000m water resistance.

    Granted, it's probably fiddly, don't know how you manually wind the watch etc.

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    Re: New Spanish designed dive watch to go to 5000m

    Quote Originally Posted by BigD

    I have never seen a commercial diver, be it air diving or saturation diving, using a dive computer.
    dive computers? what are they
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    currently in sat here in indonesia working 110m, three of us in the chamber, 1xds 1xsd and 1xlv go figure.


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    Re: New Spanish designed dive watch to go to 5000m

    Having only dived to 130 feet max and couldn't see much then, the lum on this baby must be pretty damn good at 5000m! :lol:

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    Re: New Spanish designed dive watch to go to 5000m

    Quote Originally Posted by seadog1408

    currently in sat here in indonesia working 110m, three of us in the chamber, 1xds 1xsd and 1xlv go figure.

    cheers
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    Good stuff :lol:

    How is the food? Apart from cold...? :(

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    Re: New Spanish designed dive watch to go to 5000m

    Quote Originally Posted by BigD
    Quote Originally Posted by seadog1408

    currently in sat here in indonesia working 110m, three of us in the chamber, 1xds 1xsd and 1xlv go figure.

    cheers
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    Good stuff :lol:

    How is the food? Apart from cold...? :(
    really good, indian,and indonesian cooks.

    cheers
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    Re: New Spanish designed dive watch to go to 5000m

    Quote Originally Posted by rfrazier
    Quote Originally Posted by Dibetu
    ... In practice utterly useless and too expensive.
    Thank God that they are the only ones in the entire history of entire watch industry who have ever made that error.

    Best wishes,
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    +1 :D :D :D

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    Re: New Spanish designed dive watch to go to 5000m

    Quote Originally Posted by seadog1408
    Quote Originally Posted by BigD
    Quote Originally Posted by seadog1408

    currently in sat here in indonesia working 110m, three of us in the chamber, 1xds 1xsd and 1xlv go figure.

    cheers
    mike :wink:
    Good stuff :lol:

    How is the food? Apart from cold...? :(
    really good, indian,and indonesian cooks.

    cheers
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    Spicy Nasi Goreng for breakfast :lol: I could live with that too. What part of Indonesia are you in?
    Will be out in Sumba and Sumbawa next week, but not as deep, only 2 to max 20 meters for me in warm water, low currents and good visability.

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    Re: New Spanish designed dive watch to go to 5000m

    My wife is from Java......that spicy stuff can give the same effect as a chicken vindaloo, in the Morning :D

    Cheers,

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    Re: New Spanish designed dive watch to go to 5000m

    Quote Originally Posted by seadog1408
    Quote Originally Posted by BigD

    I have never seen a commercial diver, be it air diving or saturation diving, using a dive computer.
    dive computers? what are they
    :wink:

    currently in sat here in indonesia working 110m, three of us in the chamber, 1xds 1xsd and 1xlv go figure.


    cheers
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    You got any pics you could post up Mike (or any one else BigD etc)? I'm fascinated by commercial diving, real hero stuff in my book, we'd have no N.Sea oil without ya !! :)

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    Re: New Spanish designed dive watch to go to 5000m

    ^^^^^^^^^
    back to a real computer next week so will throw something together then!

    cheers
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    Re: New Spanish designed dive watch to go to 5000m

    Quote Originally Posted by FazerBoy
    I'd wear it at work - I'm often under a lot of pressure there :D
    :lol: :lol: :lol:

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    Re: New Spanish designed dive watch to go to 5000m

    Quote Originally Posted by GraniteQuarry
    Quote Originally Posted by seadog1408
    Quote Originally Posted by BigD

    I have never seen a commercial diver, be it air diving or saturation diving, using a dive computer.
    dive computers? what are they
    :wink:

    currently in sat here in indonesia working 110m, three of us in the chamber, 1xds 1xsd and 1xlv go figure.


    cheers
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    You got any pics you could post up Mike (or any one else BigD etc)? I'm fascinated by commercial diving, real hero stuff in my book, we'd have no N.Sea oil without ya !! :)
    Only got a few diving related ones on my Laptop, plenty at home. But most of them are like this... :roll: (Boring engineering detail shots of stuff getting sent down to the divers in this instance a support clamp and a Jtube)





    Very few (which I obviously didnt take) are like this...



    Mine are all of the outside looking in... I am sure that mike will have some good pics from another perspective that will more than put these to shame :)

    Apologies for going O/T

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    Re: New Spanish designed dive watch to go to 5000m

    Cheers BigD, just what i wanted to see, i only get to see that stuff on the back of artics driving to the supply boats :D

    I'm sure you'll have some cracking stuff too Mike. :wink:

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    Re: New Spanish designed dive watch to go to 5000m

    Quote Originally Posted by BigD
    That Swiss military chrono has a chrono, why a diver needs a chrono I dont know and I am sure that the chrono doesnt function at 20,000ft! :)
    I use my chrono function underwater in a number of applications: navigating and wreck penetration - and from a photographic point of view, timing long camera exposures and animal behavioral sequencing.

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