Reply With Quoteand here is 35mm on 17,5cm wrist - doesn't look too little, does it?
As one of you wrote more critical was the distance from lug to lug than diameter, definitely and this distance seems to be long enough to make 35mm Smiths looks like more
I don't suppose there's any chance of getting prototypes / mock-ups made (for free :) )?
Here's a watch I used to own. 38mm diameter, with 18mm strap. I didn't wear it much because it felt too small. I haven't got huge wrists. I suppose it's possible the amount of printing on the dial makes it look smaller, but it's my benchmark of what's too small for me.
and here is 35mm on 17,5cm wrist - doesn't look too little, does it?
As one of you wrote more critical was the distance from lug to lug than diameter, definitely and this distance seems to be long enough to make 35mm Smiths looks like more
I tend to think that 18mm straps are too thin. I'd say 38.5mm with 20mm lugs would be ideal.
Can we get it by Christmas please? :)
What colour is the sky where you come from?Originally Posted by Daz
Not on your delicate wrists. :twisted:
I can't help but wonder whether a decision has been reached... :?
I really like this one :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
(and now waiting for the sober-minded admonition: settle down, son etc :D )
38mm.brings it more up to date with todays large style while keeping it appropriate to the original.
Here's the difficulty if you want to keep the original proportions of case diameter and lug width. A 38mm case in every option means a non-standard lug width.
Option 1
Original is 35/17 = ratio of 2.06:1 so opting for standard width lugs gives 37.06/18 and 41.18/20
Option 2
Decreasing the ratio slightly to 2:1 gives 36/18 and 40/20
Option 3
If the original had 18mm lugs then the ratio becomes 1.94:1 giving 38.89/20
as wrist challenged I like 38mm, 19mm lugs on a speedbird nato please
38mm looks best to me :)
Rod
36-38mm is a perfect size to keep the proportions authentic. Don't think it needs to be 40mm as its all dial and wears larger.
I've never really understood the fad of oversized watches. Eddie, I assume this will have some form of 2824 derivative movement at about 25mm diameter. Perhaps a better question would be "How small can the W10 be before it loses its charm?"
I guess 34-36mm would be about right with an 18mm lug. At 40mm I would suggest a 21-22mm lug would be needed to keep the proportions.
I think 40mm would be too big for watch like this. 38mm max in my opinion.
I'm not a fan of big watches though.
I would like 20mm lug width best. Is it possible to build a watch around that requirement? :)
I think 39mm would be a good size. Anything smaller would be too small, and larger, might look too large.
Another vote for 38-39. Please no bigger, if there is no design purpose. I will end up clumping it on things.
I am so over this Monster watch trend. The 35mm would be a stylish choice. Elegent yet tough and functional.
38mm (max) with 20mm lug width or 34-35mm with 18mm lug width.
Old Rolexes (and Seikos) look great with about a 32-34mm diameter and 19mm lug width (which is a difficult width to live with).
Andrew
Personally, I don't see the problem with 17mm or 19mm lugs. Between ebay and all the online strap sellers, I have absolutely no difficulty to find straps these sizes - 19mm for the Seiko 6138 and 17mm for various Smiths.
I even recently picked up a gorgeous 17mm open-ended strap for a song (10 dollarsish) from a US seller.
I would say go for 39mm-40mm, with 20mm lugs. It would keep the style of the original, and allow a better size of strap (Nato style for fixed lugs in particular); for those of us who may be concerned about the size of the watch head, it's only the same as a Rolex Sub, and most don't have an issue with that for 'presence on the wrist'.
I think the 38mm looks great, the 40mm seems to me a little oversized for the design/proportions of the dial
I've just received an offer for this watch and having a domed sapphire with the same profile as the original acrylic will add 80 euros to the price over the cost of sticking with acrylic. what do we think?
Eddie
Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".
Go for it! It will boost sales imho.
What about two versions? One with a nice, warm acrylic crystal and an upgraded sapphire one for the non-believers?
I'm not as think as you drunk I am.
I think it would make the watch too expensive. How many PRS-53s would have sold if they were £80 more expensive? Anyway, acrylic is entirely in keeping with the spirit of the watch.
PS - 80 euros will probably be about £100 by the time the watch goes to market :roll:
Go for it! It will boost sales imho.
What about two versions? One with a nice, warm acrylic crystal and an upgraded sapphire one for the non-believers?
I agree, go for it, it's a plus IMHO.
Ciao
Engi
It will be difficult to do half and half or offer it as an option because the crystal is a custom crystal and numbers will have to be ordered in advance; plus, having them all sapphire helps to keep the cost of the crystal down.
Eddie
Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".
I think it depends on the target price as well.
Difficult one. The spirit of Smiths was always great VFM and affordable prices. Watches for everyone.
Hmmm..... Boy am I glad I'm not you! :lol:
I'm not as think as you drunk I am.
Agree.
I'd buy it with or without, but prefer with.
I prefer acrylic, but I suspect enough people will want the sapphire to make it worth your while. Probably in keeping with your policy of upgrading the spec of watches from the originals. I would have thought sticking with fixed bars will have more of an impact than the crystal choice.
Dave E
Skating away on the thin ice of a new day
There's DOMED acrylic and domed sapphire. Domed acrylic like the PRS5 and PRS50b have super domes, PRS 14 a decent dome. Domed sapphire like the PRS22 has only a very slight dome, pleasing as it is. €80 seems good though.
This would be a proper dome with the same profile as the original acrylic.
Eddie
Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".
Then it's actually quite cheap imho. It's not exactly easy to manufacture such a high-dome sapphire crystal!This would be a proper dome with the same profile as the original acrylic.
Eddie
I'm not as think as you drunk I am.
If that is the case then IMO the effect will be quite striking and well worth the extra money. Having said that, I think the acrylic will suit the watch nicely too. I'll buy one either way :D
Cheers
Stern
If I were to offer both crystals, it would increase the price for both watches because the construction is different. I would have to split the total production numbers in two and then each watch would cost more (because of lower volume for each type) and there would be two sets of tooling costs.
Eddie
Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".
acrylic please
Absolutely 39mm Fixed Bars, this would be perfection
Producing both types doesn't sound like an attractive option.
Where do you see this watch sitting in the market? What other features will it have? Screw down crown, press on caseback :wink: ? It would be a shame to over-spec it, and end up at a higher price point that you originally envisaged.
No screw down crown
Screw back
100 metres W/R
Anti-magnetic cage
Fixed bars
ETA2801
Eddie
Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".
If it is indeed domed sapphire to the same spec as the original acrylic, it would be a yes from me. Highly domed sapphire is a great feature and makes a watch have a great 'feel'.
Sounds great, I'm really excited about this one.
Could it be less than £250 with sapphire? That would be pretty good.
I'm fine with the 2801 (rugged and reliable) but I was hoping for that "interesting" movement... I guess we tried but no soap huh? :D
Stern
Unfortunately not, the sapphire and the movement are both 80 euros each at cost and that's before the case.
Eddie
Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".
I'm planning to buy either way. I'd say this:
I think Eddie's pricing policy is fantastic--it gives us high-spec, interesting, intelligent watches that we (well, I) otherwise couldn't afford. Acrylic is good stuff, fit for purpose, and with its own charm. The PRS-53 is a gem.
But a high-dome sapphire for £80 or so more is a terrific bargain. Eddie can't go wrong here, but that would be fantastic.
I suspect that a true LE with a Peseux 7001 or something even more intersting is the best place for a domed Sapphire. Easy to ask over £300 for that.
The regular watch should be under £200 to sell in any numbers. The world needs a new Zeno Explorer and with a plastic crystal this could be it.
How far off do you think we are from seeing the finished article?, I'm developing a nervous twitch from the anticipation. :shock:
€80 is a bargain for an acrylic mimicking high domed sapphire crystal. Sinn charges about $450 US more for the 356 Flieger with high domed sapphire instead of acrylic.This would be a proper dome with the same profile as the original acrylic.
Eddie
Im looking forward to this one, I would buy it no problem.
Will that make repairs difficult (impossible)?
Andrew
p.s. <36mm!
I would prefer an acrylic crystal please :)
both for reasons of price and aesthetics.
btw, is it possible to have the numerals in yellow vintage colored lume instead of the regular green?
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