Reply With QuoteNo it's not.
Yes, there are lots.
I think so. It is perfect. Sublime.
Is anything better?
No it's not.
Yes, there are lots.
Lots of watches are better.
I can't really offer a better option as I don't know where your tastes lie. As far as my tastes are concerned however, it's one of the ugliest watches I've ever laid eyes on. I can't stand the shape of the case, although I grant the dial is very nice.
I think you meant to type "the 5711 is my favourite watch".
I'm not a massive fan, but can think of quite a few worse watches to fasten to your wrist...
I had the 5711 but sold it. Its a beautiful watch no doubt. But at the end of the day, its what you like that matters.
Does it keep time better than anything else? no. not even close.
Does it pull punani better than anything else? no. not even close.
Does it makes your mates jealous better than anything else? no again.
so i have to conclude its actually a pretty sh12 watch (although it is quite shiny which is nice.)
Does it pull punani better than anything else? -> Well a watch with the name "patek phillipe" certainly helps alot.....Originally Posted by Josh B
Does it make your mates jealous? => I think it does.....
Does it keep good time? => ofcourse compared to quartz no. But as a mechanical watch, the Patek seal timing is far more stringent than COSC, around +- 2 seconds.
As nice as it is, i certainly wouldn't say it's the best watch in the world or even close for that matter but something i would like to own at some stage, i think :)
I don't think you quite understand the meaning of "best".
He didn't ask whether it was an adequate watch, which it is of course.
Ok fine. But its definately got its merits!!
Define "best". As that can be pretty personal.
I myself love the Nautilus.
nice article/links to articles and a comparison with the AP equivalent
http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/2011/5/...-the-pate.html
Thanks kaiserphoenix for someone that has owned the 5711. What do you prefer out of interest?
What do you mean? Prefer to another watch?
I just found the Nautilus to be a great watch, but i never felt that I bonded with it.
No, it's shite.
At least as a watch for normal use, with normal people.
You have to be constantly on your guard not to damage it, otherwise you can't pass it on to your little "monkey in a suit" of a son.................
Daddel.
Got a new watch, divers watch it is, had to drown the bastard to get it!
Yup, which of your amazing collection do you prefer?
You have never owned a Nautilus have you?No, it's shite.
At least as a watch for normal use, with normal people.
You have to be constantly on your guard not to damage it, otherwise you can't pass it on to your little "monkey in a suit" of a son.................
Daddel.
Thanks for taking the time to comment. Anyway.
Hahaha does it pull punani better than anything else haha just laughed my head off then, not even close?
Josh what watch gets you the most punani mate??
Its not even the best Patek watch, never mind the best watch in the world
Way down my list and not even in the top 10
But which of the Pateks that you have owned do you prefer?
yes we get it. YOU OWN A PATEK PHILIPPE. well done. gold star for you. All others may not comment.
Have a biscuit.
As above.
Well each watch in my collection occupies a certain place and purpose. The price factor comes into play also. £17970.00 for a stainless steel watch with no complications....Perhaps if I was a millionaire i would keep it. But other than that, a JLC forexample with a triple date complication at £3000.00 persents far more VFM for me.
I've genuinely considered a Nautilus as an 'exit watch', but more than the initial cost, the servicing prices are what puts me off. ANyone know what a regular service on a 5711 runs? Wit ha re-finish, I'd be surprised if it's less than £800.
Do I need to own one then to have an opinion on design, aesthetics and desirability ?
Something like this is much nicer and embodies what PP is to me, it looks less dated for starters
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Yes.
If you think design, aesthetics and desirability consists of a sub and a panerai, then yes.
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And a Cartier.
Is being a cnut an obligatory requirement to own a patek or just a happy coincidence with you?
No, not by a long shot.
I believe it is essential.
That's a little harsh but I did snigger. With respect to the OP, given your length of tenure on this forum you should know that your subject line is more than a little inflammatory. The starting point for any discussion should be the premise that it's all in the eye of the beholder and it would be a dull old place if we all liked the same stuff.
Apologies for sounding so...reasonable. Not like me.
SGR
I like the design and aesthetics, that's why I bought them, don't see what your point is. You asked peoples opinions with quite a bold statement, if you don't want to know what people really think better not to ask, or at least maybe just ask it on a Patek forum where there are plenty of other sycophants to massage your ego
I also bought the Nautilus thinking it was my "exit" watch. but alas, I feel no such thing exists tbh....but that is a discussion for another time.
Servicing costs are here:
http://www.patek.com/contents/default/en/costs.html
Thanks Stuart: As many of us are, collectors of considerable time, I was intrigued if anyone had other choices for the perfect watch. Personally, I think the 5711 is it.
Apologies if I riled a few egos.
TBH I think if I had larger wrists and more money in my bank, the Nautilus is quite close to a "perfect" all-round watch with excellent history, great design, good durability (more water resistant than the AP RO, Rolex GMT, Explorer), and does it with style.
If I were to own just a single watch, for all occasions, the 5711 would be pretty high on the list. Indeed I had the pleasure of wearing proby24's for a few weeks before he decided he didn't want to sell it to me (he saw the way i wore it and wanted a slice of my swagger - sadly you can tell it isn't working for him :) )
As much as I enjoy my 5167 (my current daily wearer as I try to figure out what I would keep if I lived with one watch) I would take the 5711 in preference. Perhaps on the 16600 comes close but they are far too ubiquitous for my liking.
I may next try an AP 15202 or 15400 as the Genta style works for me.
I've owned a ROO and have a Nautilus 5980 on order so have a little familiarity with the Genta design.
Seeing the two Jumbos side by side in those pictures... I actually prefer the look of the Royal Oak, and by some margin. I am shocked and slightly worried that my grail isn't quite the grail I thought it would be.
Although on the plus side, long term it'd be perfectly acceptable to own both as they are more different than I thought!
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Is the 5711 Nautilus the best watch in the World?
Have you owned all the other watches in the world to assess them properly and reach this conclusion?
Thanks for your comments. Would you care to expand? I think I know why the Nautilus wouldn't satisfy me (cost, servicing, flat sapphire, etc) but I'm genuinely interested why it didn't work for you.
(I've also thought that an AP 15300 might do the job, but we'll see.)
Lol - his Patekness clearly needs to go to rhe "I Am Considerably Richer Than You" forum. As most of us mere minions clearly aren't worthy of his superior EVERYTHING.
For me there are quite a few watches i prefer over this one. Mostly rolex vintages
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but coming across as a prat is in the content!
Does one really have to own a Nautilus to have an opinion on its design and aesthetics? I have plenty of opinions on the design and aesthetics of things I don't own. Concorde and Westminster Abbey for example are objects I have an opinion on the design of but will never own.
As a non owner I am puzzled by the fact the original design of the Nautilus was inspired by the portholes of the old transatlantic liners and can't readily see the logical design reference. I believe there are some design clues from the system of hinges and tensions bolts used to secure the window against the frame thereby sealing it hermetically but its relevance to a wrist watch is still rather lost on me.
The use of their 324 caliber makes it in my opinion less interesting than watches with the 240Q so even amongst Patek's oeuvre I wouldn't rate it as their best.
Best watch in the World? In my opinion no it isn't.
And anyway, we all know that the Audemars Piguet Royal Oak, the watch that Patek was trying to copy, is superior. Hell, even Genta, who designed both, admitted that the Nautilus was far from his best effort and that RO was the crowning achievement of his long and storied career.
Regards,
Adam
that is an excellent point
I'd love to give an informed opinion, but it seems you have to be a homo, so I'll leave it.
Nice photos OP. Stunning post.
If it floats your boat, then so be it.
“Don’t look back, you’re not heading that way.”
Yes, No, Maybe. Does my bum look big in this?
I would love to own any Patek.
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