More coffee talk - Is instant due a comeback?

**diver527** · 7th March 2016, 12:55

Saw this article this morning, a very interesting kickstarter. Price is obviously extortionate at the moment but the concept is good.

http://sprudge.com/kalle-freese-dried-coffee-95851.html

**solwisesteve** · 7th March 2016, 13:46

Sorry but at USD6 for a single espresso.... no chance. The problem is as that price it's not even in the 'give it a try' range. At USD2 per shot I've give it a chance... I can see it being a good idea for those trips away when the only option is some Nescafe in the room i.e. that's NOT an option.

**snowman** · 7th March 2016, 13:48

Meh... I LIKE Nescafe

M

**diver527** · 7th March 2016, 13:50

Originally Posted by solwisesteve

Sorry but at USD6 for a single espresso.... no chance. The problem is as that price it's not even in the 'give it a try' range. At USD2 per shot I've give it a chance... I can see it being a good idea for those trips away when the only option is some Nescafe in the room i.e. that's NOT an option.

I completely agree. They need some significant scale up to bring that price down!

**andy armitage** · 7th March 2016, 13:51

Instant is just vile it is pretty much tasteless and certainly doesn't resemble coffee I only use my nespresso machine as their coffee is just great.

**A380** · 7th March 2016, 13:58

I'd willingly pay $6 rather than have this:

Kopi Luwak.

http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2009/0...-the-most.html

It must be an 'acquired' taste.

**diver527** · 7th March 2016, 14:07

Originally Posted by andy armitage

Instant is just vile it is pretty much tasteless and certainly doesn't resemble coffee I only use my nespresso machine as their coffee is just great.

I agree about the instant Andy and this is said to be due to cheap coffee beans and a poor extraction process at the factories. Now imagine Nespresso freeze dried a shot of pod coffee.. we may then have a good 'instant' coffee?

**Backward point** · 7th March 2016, 14:11

Originally Posted by A380

I'd willingly pay $6 rather than have this:

Kopi Luwak.

http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2009/0...-the-most.html

It must be an 'acquired' taste.

Somebody must have thought "I wonder what that tastes like...?" I know, I'll give it a rinse, roast it and find out!

**doebag** · 7th March 2016, 14:11

I don't know about you guys but I think Azera goes a long way towards a "decent" cup of instant. Certainly it's better than pretty much everything else that you can buy in a supermarket.

**Thewatchbloke** · 7th March 2016, 14:13

Each to their own, it's never been away for me - I love Nescafe Gold Blend

**bonzo697** · 7th March 2016, 14:14

I don't really like coffee but I do like Alta Rica, which is a big improvement over Mellow Birds.

**doebag** · 7th March 2016, 14:21

Originally Posted by bonzo697

I don't really like coffee but I do like Alta Rica, which is a big improvement over Mellow Birds.

A colleague from the Talking Newspaper I volunteer with still buys Maxwell House. I swear it's just the floor sweepings from a Happy Shopper Value Coffee supplier with a pretty blue label on it.

Worst. Coffee. Ever!

**solwisesteve** · 7th March 2016, 14:25

Originally Posted by doebag

I don't know about you guys but I think Azera goes a long way towards a "decent" cup of instant. Certainly it's better than pretty much everything else that you can buy in a supermarket.

Tried it.... and also a couple of the other of the 'instant+ground' coffee products. Depends on what you're used to I suppose.

and while we're on a coffee thread.... why can't they learn how to properly tamp coffee in cafes etc? We go to a very nice cafe for Saturday brunch but they have absolutely no idea about how to tamp the coffee. I sit there with my sausage sandwich watching them. Coffee should be tamped with about 30lbs weight. All they seem to do is just show the tamp to the portafilter and then put it back on the counter - I swear it never touches the coffee grinds. :-(

**Bluetorric** · 7th March 2016, 15:34

Originally Posted by andy armitage

Instant is just vile it is pretty much tasteless and certainly doesn't resemble coffee I only use my nespresso machine as their coffee is just great.

+1, my Nespresso machine is in daily use.......

**andy armitage** · 7th March 2016, 17:10

Originally Posted by Bluetorric

+1, my Nespresso machine is in daily use.......

I know a lot of people use instant and I am sure you get used to it but once you use nespresso you then realise how awful and tasteless instant coffee is.

**soapy** · 7th March 2016, 17:14

I was looking at these the other day if you are out and about its a simple way to have a coffee

http://groceries.iceland.co.uk/nesca...s-pack/p/52158

**seadog1408** · 7th March 2016, 17:16

Originally Posted by soapy

I was looking at these the other day if you are out and about its a simple way to have a coffee

http://groceries.iceland.co.uk/nesca...s-pack/p/52158

51% sugar!!!!!!!!!!................ No thanks.

**Thewatchbloke** · 7th March 2016, 17:19

Originally Posted by andy armitage

I know a lot of people use instant and I am sure you get used to it but once you use nespresso you then realise how awful and tasteless instant coffee is.

We have a machine and my wife swears by it. Whatever comes out of it tastes like it's trying to hard to me, perhaps my pallet isn't refined enough?

**Seamaster73** · 7th March 2016, 17:20

Originally Posted by snowman

Meh... I LIKE Nescafe

At last, someone to join me in my secret shame!

I appreciate good coffee as much as the next man, but I'm equally happy with a quick cup of Nescafe without all that carry on.

**Broussard** · 7th March 2016, 17:20

Each tube is $6.

Each tube has "enough coffee to brew around 8 ounces."

Is that 8oz (227ml) of espresso?

**snowman** · 7th March 2016, 17:22

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**snowman** · 7th March 2016, 17:23

Originally Posted by Seamaster73

At last, someone to join me in my secret shame!

I appreciate good coffee as much as the next man, but I'm equally happy with a quick cup of Nescafe without all that carry on.

Out and proud

If it's not shoes it's bloody coffee machines... Bunch of metrosexuals all of them, eh?

M

**soapy** · 7th March 2016, 17:25

one of my favourite coffees comes from the vending machines in France which most people hate.

its time and place, when you are wet and tired on your motorcycle hot and sweet is what you want.

in the house I like proper filter coffee Taylors lazy Sunday is a good one.

but so is instant gold, strong with lots of milk as its quite refreshing.

**andy armitage** · 7th March 2016, 18:32

Originally Posted by Cannop

We have a machine and my wife swears by it. Whatever comes out of it tastes like it's trying to hard to me, perhaps my pallet isn't refined enough?

Duncan there are lots of different strengths and maybe you need to try a slightly weaker one, I love the Khazar which is the strongest at 12 but Linda has two that are 6 and 7 and much milder but still really nice

**Zimmer** · 7th March 2016, 21:03

Originally Posted by andy armitage

I love the Khazar which is the strongest at 12

Me too, also like the Dharkan and Arpeggio too. The only truly vile Nespresso was that Caramelito or whatever it was called yuk.

**mmgg1988** · 7th March 2016, 22:25

Originally Posted by doebag

A colleague from the Talking Newspaper I volunteer with still buys Maxwell House. I swear it's just the floor sweepings from a Happy Shopper Value Coffee supplier with a pretty blue label on it.

Worst. Coffee. Ever!

Somewhere I used to work had this as pretty much the only choice of coffee. Horrific, really nasty and bitter and managed to taste nothing like any coffee or instant coffee I have ever had before or since. I can only assume it is solely purchased by people who don't actually like coffee.

Some other instant ones are OK, I generally think of coffee and instant "coffee" as two seperate drinks tbh!

**andy armitage** · 7th March 2016, 23:22

Originally Posted by Zimmer

Me too, also like the Dharkan and Arpeggio too. The only truly vile Nespresso was that Caramelito or whatever it was called yuk.

Same tastes :) I love the Arpeggio I normally buy mostly Khazar but I mix it with the Arpeggio and Indira and the rissetto I didn't like the rissetto at first but now I love the different flavour and I totally agree with you re the vile caramel and vanilla flavours horrible I just don't do flavoured coffee.

**Velorum** · 7th March 2016, 23:41

Worlds gone mad

I recommend that you suburban metrosexuals try a big cup of Camp Coffee

That should get things back into perspective

**andy armitage** · 8th March 2016, 00:43

Originally Posted by Velorum

Worlds gone mad

I recommend that you suburban metrosexuals try a big cup of Camp Coffee

That should get things back into perspective

Chicory!!!!!!!! No thanks

**jegger** · 8th March 2016, 00:55

What am I missing here?

If a Costa made from fresh ground beans costs £2.50 why would instant coffee made from fresh ground beans cost $6? and taste any better after freezing.

**PickleB** · 8th March 2016, 01:19

Originally Posted by Velorum

Worlds gone mad

I recommend that you suburban metrosexuals try a big cup of Camp Coffee

...image...

That should get things back into perspective

Originally Posted by andy armitage

Chicory!!!!!!!! No thanks

It gets worse!

According to Wiki:

Camp Coffee is a brown liquid which consists of water, sugar, 4% caffeine-free coffee essence, and 26% chicory essence. This is generally used as a substitute for coffee...

**PhiloStan** · 8th March 2016, 03:48

The best instant coffee in my opinion is the 'Carte Noir Instinct wholebean' and the second best is probably Douwe Egberts.

**diver527** · 8th March 2016, 09:13

Originally Posted by jegger

What am I missing here?

If a Costa made from fresh ground beans costs £2.50 why would instant coffee made from fresh ground beans cost $6? and taste any better after freezing.

This is because they spend the rest of the money removing the water so you can carry your coffee as a dried version.

**Broussard** · 8th March 2016, 09:16

Originally Posted by jegger

What am I missing here?

If a Costa made from fresh ground beans costs £2.50 why would instant coffee made from fresh ground beans cost $6? and taste any better after freezing.

From the link: each tube is $6 and each tube has "enough coffee to brew around 8 ounces."

So it *might* be that each tube produces 8oz (227ml) of espresso.

An espresso is generally around 30ml.

**rfrazier** · 8th March 2016, 10:00

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Isn't Nespresso new age, hipster instant?
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We use either paper filter or espresso machine. We used to use Whittard's After Dinner, but they discontinued that and now we use Whittard's Cafe Francais. Same grind whether we get pre-ground or beans. No 3 setting at Whittards, if ground there, and two marks back from the finest grind on our cheapie home grinder (DeLonghi burr grinder). Many would think the beans too oily (over cooked), but we aren't part of the coffee elite.

Best wishes,
Bob