Reply With QuoteA King Seiko perhaps
Here are some
2 of my favourites..
and then the "daddy"
What's your thought on these watches, and is there any other vintage seiko worth considering?
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A King Seiko perhaps
Vintage - The Twin Quartz movements are ones to watch IMO. Beautifully made, extremely accurate, understated and comparatively rare.
Recently the EPD watches have all the hallmarks of a future classic. Manufacturer had trouble shifting an extremely well engineered product because of the price and lack of understanding of what had been achieved. Supply stops, but the trickle of demand continues. Result - 2ndhand prices for the comparatively few models produced increases.
BEAUTIFUL watch!!! what is it?Originally Posted by learningtofly
Vintage Seiko are rubbish.
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Thank you, any suggestions as to which model to look for?
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You need to look for this symbol on the face (below the hands)
It signifies the twin quartz movement, but they were branded as Twin Quartz, King Quartz and Grand Quartz. They used 2 quartz crystals at different frequencies to give thermocompensation. The best were accurate to 5 sec per year, and also had very finely finished cases and dials. To be honest it's a bit of a specialist area that needs some research to sort the good from the best and pay accordingly.
Also let's not forget the vintage mechanicals! Seiko Pogue and Bullhead chronographs are doing well.
i see thank for the intro! :)You need to look for this symbol on the face (below the hands)
It signifies the twin quartz movement, but they were branded as Twin Quartz, King Quartz and Grand Quartz. They used 2 quartz crystals at different frequencies to give thermocompensation. The best were accurate to 5 sec per year, and also had very finely finished cases and dials. To be honest it's a bit of a specialist area that needs some research to sort the good from the best and pay accordingly.
of the 3 that i originally posted, do you like any?
i've seen both the bullhead and pogue.. don't really fancy them :/
And here's the predecessor of the 6159-7001:
1967, the first 300m dive watch from Seiko, 6215-7000......
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And here's my recently acquired 6105
What's your thought on these watches, and is there any other vintage seiko worth considering?
I have the SDGA001 and the 'Special' variant of the GS61.
Yes, there are MANY vintage Seikos worth considering ranging from mechanicals to solid state ones.
Have a a look at the no less than 5.5 Hertz 5717-19s per example.
Most are likely to at least keep up with inflation.
@Caruso: Had a bit of a financial set back on the farm, otherwise would have bought a second SDGA; a black one to compliment my ss one.
That's the kiddie right there Jim.And here's the predecessor of the 6159-7001:
1967, the first 300m dive watch from Seiko, 6215-7000......
Gorgeous.
Vintage Seiko always trumps new IMO.
Cheers,
Neil.
Here's some...
Cheers,
Neil.
Thanks for your reply, i was waiting for your comment on the post, coz i remember on my smartwatches topic you talked about your sdga.. i love the GS61! my only concern is the movement some hi-beat have the 28.8 rather than the 36, so i'm afraid i would not be able to differentiate one from the other, and perhaps overpaying, any suggestion on the matter?
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Here's one:
New arrival this week. Extraordinary watch from 1967. My biggest surprise was how large it wears: at 36.5mm with 19mm strap and those amazing lugs, it really wears like 38mm or so. In fact it's a challenge for me to wear something this big (6.75 in wrist).
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Can anyone explain to me the difference between Seiko, Grand Seiko and King Seiko? Please
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A good and concise info page on vintage GS is http://www.seiyajapan.com/pages/the-...of-grand-seiko
You can see that the GS61 36.000 bpm calibers have the caliber numbers 6145/6, 6155/6, 6185/6 (5 is date the 6 is daydate).
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Hi-beat doesn't necessarily means it has a 36k bph, right? It could also have a 28.8k one
https://thespringbar.com/blogs/guide...llectors-guide
So I understand reading this
Fully agree on both these points.
Yes they are indeed, though a few of us would be quite happy for you to throw it in our direction.Vintage Seiko are rubbish.
Yes.
And the 39,600 bph one is not given any special mention on the dial at all....
That's very useful. I'd not noticed it before.
Here the 11 beats per second movement with the revolutionary vertical clutch:
I am hoping to receive delivery on my newly acquired 6105, can't wait!And here's my recently acquired 6105
Love the vintage Seiko divers. I have 4 mechanical ones, the earliest on the left
Also love the vintage Seiko dress watches. Have a few GS but my favourite has always been the 3180 on the right. The left one is a Seiko Lord Marvel which is also a 60s watch but quite large and I love the dial script. Not sure if it's a later redial? You don't normally see the big Seiko logo absent.
A few recent projects of mine: First up, a one-button chrono from 1964
A Bell-Matic from 1971.
A 6139 single register automatic chronograph from 1975
A 62MAS from 1965
A Seikomatic Silverwave 50m from 1962
A 6105 fitted with a Grand Seiko high beat movement
and a Grand Seiko 6245 from 1968 to finish off
Martin
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Some lovely photos and lovely watches there Martyn. Brilliant moody 62MAS shot
Wow!!! what is there not to love about all these watches!!
i originally posted to get some info on which serio to buy first..
i feel more confused now than ever before!! ahahah
every single picture posted here show an incredible watch!! they all amazing and i'm sure worth owning
Some great pictures on this thread... Guess I should add this Weekdater.
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Here my Cal. 19.
The only ladies caliber EVER running at 36.000 bph. and with corresponding accuracy:
Case design according to the Grammar of Design rules.
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Not sure which I admire most, your watches or your quiet modesty.
Truly gratifying to look at these pictures.
Back to the topic title question.
Asa you have seen there are an awful lot of special vintage Seikos to collect.
At the top of the pile are, and Seiko themselves sse it like that, are the 44GS and 61GS as those are the high water mark of their chronometer competition efforts AND the essence of the Grammar of Design. This set of design rules gave rise to 'Grand Seiko style and had a huge influence on the whole of Seiko design. The strictest of it is still dusted off when releasing a new milestone model; see the first Ananta and the first Astron GPS models.
Imo the style sets the Seiko models most adhering to it extra apart.
When the Ananta line was introduced, for the domestic marketiSeiko made a big thing of what the random English word generator/translator dubbed 'Slant Mono Form', which was the Grammar of Design rephrased.
When the Astron GPS range was launched no mention was made of the stainless steel models especially adhering to the show case design principles, only the Zaratsu polishing was hailed. That should light a bulb for those cued in to Seiko history as the 'flat' singe curve planes are ideal for showcasing the Zaratsu polishing.
So, imo the first Anantas and the first Astron GPS in ss are also collectable models with a *
Nice of you to say so - thanks!
Martin
5718-8000
That's not a vertical clutch Petrus, that's Seikos earlier traditional column wheel horizontal coupling chronograph movement.Here the 11 beats per second movement with the revolutionary vertical clutch:
Jesus MartinCRC I think it finished me off......lovely collection.Grand Seiko 6245 from 1968 to finish off
I'd love to get hold of vintage Alpinist, but probably like rock in.......
Have look out for one without a refinish. The original 'zaratsu' on the most strict of the Grammar of Design is imo a core thing with especially the GS44 and GS66 (and 19).
Last night had a dig in my files and found some really clear illustrations, explications, of both the 'slant mono form'
and the development of the lapidary polishing of the katana to emulate the shinogi on the side profiles of the watch case.
Although imo the above GS models are THE examples of the Grammar, the first Ananta and Astron GPS models in stainless steel are more striking examples of the 'shinogi'. The Ananata resembles the katana more and the rather exaggerated downward curve of the Astron lugs make for an extreme example of single plane curves intersecting in a 'straight' curve.
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A nice early 70s auto?
Is "Japan Made" on the Silverwave dial typical?A Seikomatic Silverwave 50m from 1962
For me it's all about vintage Seiko , not a huge fan of grand Seiko , I want to love them but they don't do anything for me .
The 62MAS is what vintage Seiko is all about
Seikoboy
I think it is for the 50m Seikomatic models. The 1964 Sportsmatic Silverwave I had a while back had Made in Japan on the dial, whilst the vast majority of the 60's Seiko's to have passed through my hands have had simply Japan and then the dial code.
Martin
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