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    Quote Originally Posted by adrianw View Post
    I have had the opportunity to play in some proper sports cars but for shear fun I thing a modern mini JCW takes some beating.
    I owned a JCW Clubman a few years ago, it was OK up to about 8 tenths but the handling fell apart when you really pushed it. It was certainly faster than an MX5, but not as much fun (for me, anyway).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wild Rumpus View Post
    I owned a JCW Clubman a few years ago, it was OK up to about 8 tenths but the handling fell apart when you really pushed it. It was certainly faster than an MX5, but not as much fun (for me, anyway).
    That may well have been the Clubman bit letting the side down!

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    I forgot to mention, OP, the Up GTi is getting some good reviews and I've seen a couple of car journalists buy them as personal cars (thinking about it I know quite a few car journalists who've had or still have MX-5s and not a single one with a Fiesta ST...). I had a Lupo GTi a few years ago and it was almost a really good car, just let down by its handling.

    I spent some time in a JCW Mini, whiny little thing that didn't flow when it came to rapid cross-country driving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxy100 View Post
    I forgot to mention, OP, the Up GTi is getting some good reviews and I've seen a couple of car journalists buy them as personal cars (thinking about it I know quite a few car journalists who've had or still have MX-5s and not a single one with a Fiesta ST...). I had a Lupo GTi a few years ago and it was almost a really good car, just let down by its handling.

    I spent some time in a JCW Mini, whiny little thing that didn't flow when it came to rapid cross-country driving.
    Supercharged JCW by any chance?

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    I only hear good things about the ST, thats were i would go

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    Quite a decision to make for the OP. Sports car or hot hatch. Very different propositions.

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    Quite a decision to make for the OP. Sports car or hot hatch. Very different propositions.
    Yep. Need to think it through. I’ve owned hot hatches in the past but never a convertible sports car. I think 34 inch legs might have more of a bearing on what I buy than anything. A friend had a lovely Caterham I couldn’t even get into, even if I took the steering wheel off first!


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    Having thought about getting an MX5 many times over the years I finally got round to it last year.

    Why did I wait so long? Its the most enjoyable car to drive Ive ever had.

    MK2.5 with all rust issues (including front chassis rails) sorted and FSH for £1800.

    I love it.

    Last edited by Velorum; 12th February 2019 at 18:46.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velorum View Post
    Having thought about getting an MX5 many times over the years I finally got round to it last year.

    Why did I wait so long? Its the most enjoyable car to drive Ive ever had.

    MK2.5 with all rust issues (including front chassis rails) sorted and FSH for £1800.

    I love it.

    Hmm. Maybe I can get both provided I can fit in the MX?!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxy100 View Post
    I forgot to mention, OP, the Up GTi is getting some good reviews and I've seen a couple of car journalists buy them as personal cars (thinking about it I know quite a few car journalists who've had or still have MX-5s and not a single one with a Fiesta ST...). I had a Lupo GTi a few years ago and it was almost a really good car, just let down by its handling.

    I spent some time in a JCW Mini, whiny little thing that didn't flow when it came to rapid cross-country driving.

    Most of the journalists have them played with, I did some development driving for the Jota MX5, it took a lot of changes to make it a sports car.


    I was talking about the current JCW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adrianw View Post
    I did some development driving for the Jota MX5, it took a lot of changes to make it a sports car.
    Please give yoúr definition of ´sports car´.

    In mine feature weight, width and weight, width; nimble, agile, way above the on the public road almost entirely academic power, acceleation times, top speed.

    Congratulations Velorum!!!!


    p.s. I went with the left wing suggestions from this very same forum and found a nice MR2 mk3: https://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.p...6-Which-cabrio
    Those are cheaper in the UK than MX5 and have less rust issues.
    On the down side it is more to the extreme; the MX is way more sedate and forgiving plus has sóme luggage space.
    On the latter; dropped a gf off at the airport this morning; although she travels a-typically light ánd offered to keep a suitcase in her lap, had to borrow my son´s car.
    Last edited by Huertecilla; 13th February 2019 at 18:48.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huertecilla View Post
    Please give yoúr definition of ´sports car´.

    In mine feature weight, width and weight, width; nimble, agile, way above the almost on the public road entirely academic power, acceleation times, top speed.

    Congratulations Velorum!!!!
    In the context of this discussion, this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izg55Fa_OHU

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    Quote Originally Posted by adrianw View Post
    In the context of this discussion, this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izg55Fa_OHU
    Whilst I agree with the n.a. tuning to be still sort of practical, the lowering and widening is pushing it imo.

    My point however remains: You wrote that it took serious effort to máke the MX5 a sports car, quite clearly implying that out of the box in your opinion it is not.

    Fair enough; your opinion. In mine it is.

    Like the MBF/TF would have been if they had not cut corners with parts and assenbly.
    Like the first Elise before they ´improved´ and spoiled it.
    The Fiat MX124 too is imo an example of ´improving´ it to death too; you pay through the nose for a less well balanced car. The roll back roof Abarth ´500´is more fun imo in spite of being wrong wheel drive.

    Anyway, differences is taste, opinions are the reason why we háve the choice: Hail the differences of opinion!

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