Have you had a look at orient mako’s or ray’s, they have a vast range of models and colour themes. These are fantastic and ticks most or all of your boxes.
I've always felt that I'm the only person who doesn't like those Orient Ray / Mako divers. For me, the hands are too short and I don't like either the indentations into the bezel insert or the barnacle above the crown. However the case and bracelet do look nice.
You're not alone, they're not for me either. From the "Rothmans" logo to the way they're styled and finished that somehow to my eye makes them look like they've been worn-down with misuse, I just can't love them. I find a fair number of feted Japanese designs to be dated and replete with fussy, jarring details that rob them of harmony. No question they're decent VFM and some will love them, but aesthetics will always be divisive.
The newer version of the 'mako/ray' that goes by the name Orient Kamasu is a much more pleasing diver to the eye in my opinion, also has the sapphire crystal you would like.
Some pics for you below
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Just been thinking you also have the kickstarter watch Second hour gin clear, Swiss Sw200 movement, sapphire crystal, ceramic bezel, etc
Price comes in about Ł340 plus taxes for shipping from Australia
There is also NTH Subs
Somewhat of a homage, but I think they have there own styling to, enough to set them apart.
They are 11.5mm thick, with sapphire crystal, steel bezel, 40mm, 300m water resistance. These are about Ł600 online new
Again pictures below
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Following with interest
Last edited by TaketheCannoli; 15th April 2020 at 19:08.
Marathon Watch WW194026 is Ł600 on Amazon at the moment.
The date is in the wrong place & 13mm thick - but nearly hits the brief ....
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What is it with date windows between 4 and 5?! The Hamilton Khaki Scuba mentioned earlier in the thread was potentially a great looking watch that was also completely ruined by this design choice. How does any watch designer or company think it looks better than aligning with an index marker? I just don't get it.
For the sake of perverse buggers like myself presumably. I hate having the date at 3. 6 is OK, but 4.30 is perfect to my eye - at least for tool watches like divers...
Now what does vex me are oblong date windows and date wheels that don't match dials. Truth is these are trivial design preferences, and we'll never all agree...
This is the Orient without the Rothmans logo. It's my Orient Air Diver, nicknamed 'Revolver". I was lucky to stumble upon it on eBay, both the 200M and 300M models are, to quote Blackadder, like a dog who speaks Norwegian.
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These seem incredibly hard to find for sale in the UK, I'm not keen on buying a watch for around 1K without feeling it's heft first. Does anyone on the forum have one (or indeed know of anyone who has one) in the UK?
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Are you any closer to a decision OP? Have we helped or confused?
It’s been a really useful thread. A lot of suggestions I’ve never heard of or wouldn’t have found myself.
I think the black Orient Kamasu ticks most boxes apart from size. I’d prefer 40mm but it isn’t much over that.
Just looking where’s best to buy an Orient from now!
The Armida A12 will cover all that criteria.
Plus it has amazing lume!
And at the moment you get 15% off in the Easter sale. ;)
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